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RE: Sacha Baron Cohen speech to the ADL
That's a very good point actually. Regardless of where I stand on the jew stuff with him, I can't deny that the character was exploitative of benign naivety.

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11-29-2019 04:06 AM
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< I don't mind Larry David or Cohen pushing his tribal interests, showing saintly Jewish B&B couples or even having it as a topic of theirs.

However the anti-goy sentiment is pervasive as he baits lower IQ or naive mainland goys into various stupid actions and utterings. That is rather motivated by the usual blue checkmark ADL mindset. Cohen in one of his recent stints came out in full Antifa support because Antifa is only "fighting fashists" and nothing else.

Compare it to more benign comedy Seinfeld who pushes his tribal interests without bashing everyone else. He made fun of everyone Jews, Christians, Hindus and everyone loved it because it wasn't malicious.
11-29-2019 04:16 AM
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Seinfeld (the show) was a monument to Jewish neurosis in a funny way that I only understood looking back. Those not indoctrinated into Jewish neurosis saw the characters as hilariously alien. Those indoctrinated into Jewish neurosis saw the characters as hilariously relate-able. I found myself on both sides of that equation growing up. Going back to the show after ten years was actually like watching it with completely new eyes.

There's a somewhat timeless quality to the show. Even now I remember the scene where Seinfeld goads Elaine into asking her new boyfriend what his stance on abortion is and in the end she has to break up with him because she can't tolerate someone with a different political opinion. Even more relevant today than it was when it was aired.

Neurotic George deciding to do the opposite of everything he would normally do, becoming quite masculine in the process and having fantastic success.

I still think that under the right mental framework the show has great value, all things considered.

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11-29-2019 05:00 AM
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(11-29-2019 05:00 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Seinfeld (the show) was a monument to Jewish neurosis in a funny way that I only understood looking back. Those not indoctrinated into Jewish neurosis saw the characters as hilariously alien. Those indoctrinated into Jewish neurosis saw the characters as hilariously relate-able. I found myself on both sides of that equation growing up. Going back to the show after ten years was actually like watching it with completely new eyes.

There's a somewhat timeless quality to the show. Even now I remember the scene where Seinfeld goads Elaine into asking her new boyfriend what his stance on abortion is and in the end she has to break up with him because she can't tolerate someone with a different political opinion. Even more relevant today than it was when it was aired.

Neurotic George deciding to do the opposite of everything he would normally do, becoming quite masculine in the process and having fantastic success.

I still think that under the right mental framework the show has great value, all things considered.

It's a great show, and Seinfeld himself seems like an admirable guy. Vox Day attacked it a while back, which was a big factor in making me realize that I'm not really part of Vox's crowd, as much as I agree with him on ethnic nationalism and mass immigration. Roosh has recommended Seinfeld's light-hearted and funny observational style of conversation as a model for how to talk to women when approaching them.

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11-29-2019 09:37 AM
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Larry David, Seinfeld, Mel Brooks etc are the way (((They))) expose the truth. Nearly all their bits are calling out wealthy Jewish liberals on their bullshit. They are pawns and extremely good at it.

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11-29-2019 04:11 PM
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RE: Sacha Baron Cohen speech to the ADL
Google any Mel Brooks blazing saddle review and you see the same theme.

Quote:Mel Brooks’ takedown of racism in America, the 1974 film “Blazing Saddles,” is still relevant and funny as hell thanks to its empowering lead character. Ironically, 42 years later, the film about a black sheriff who takes on a ruthless gang of thugs (and racial prejudice) to protect a small town in the Wild West

Quote:Defeating hatred through comedy

“Blazing Saddles” is a continuation of a formula Brooks employed in his breakout 1968 hit “The Producers”: take the wind out of evil’s sails by turning it into a punch line.

While “The Producers” took aim at Hitler and the Nazis, “Blazing Saddles” targeted racism in America.

Quote:when the all-white citizens of Rock Ridge must decide between granting equal rights and land to the African American and Asian railroad workers who could help them save their town, or allowing their prejudice to prevent them from uniting against a common enemy who could destroy them all. At last, a town leader relents.

“Alright, we’ll give some land to the niggers and the chinks,” he says. “But we don’t want the Irish!”

Quote:In a past interview, Brooks had described why humor was the best weapon to defeat perpetrators of hateful ideologies.

“You can’t get on a soapbox with these orators, because they’re very good at convincing the masses they’re right. But if you can make them look ridiculous, then you can win over the people.”

The last quote straight from the horses mouth, making your enemies look ridiculous is an excellent tool for winning minds.

https://whyy.org/articles/why-we-need-bl...than-ever/

(09-19-2019 04:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  You cannot win playing in the enemy's house by the enemy's rules with the enemy acting as referee.
11-29-2019 06:02 PM
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Pure conjecture here:

What if this is a direct response to the Groypers and an attempt to lay the groundwork for jailing people who ask questions about the USS Liberty?
11-29-2019 08:36 PM
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(11-29-2019 08:36 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Pure conjecture here:

What if this is a direct response to the Groypers and an attempt to lay the groundwork for jailing people who ask questions about the USS Liberty?

Are we at the point yet where young men with not much to lose will take a stint in jail rather than swallow their anger and abandon their rebellion?

The main reason that the French do everything in their power to avoid putting Muslims in jails no matter what crimes they commit is because they know that no matter how much of a problem those muslims are before they go into prison, they're ten times more of a problem once they get out.

Can you imagine attempting to run the American police state after a million or so politically active young men with high IQs and grudges got injected into the periphery of the Aryan Brotherhood, or even worse, started forming their own prison gangs? Unemployable thereafter and therefore forced to the wrong side of the law by default?

I'm not saying it would be a good thing, just that our grabbler overlords may not be so hasty to chuck the naughty European boys in jail if there's a chance they're going to be paroled as dedicated ethnosupremacists. What they proably want is the threat of consequences rather than actually having to follow through. That the goys knuckle down, take their scraps gratefully and accept their place as servants "or else".

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