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(08-25-2017 08:54 PM)traveler97 Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 02:04 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  Italy comes very often. is it that terrible?

Well, more and less, yes, but the situation in the North it's thousands times better than in the South.
Think that I often date Muslim girls (Moroccans, Tunisians...), because are a lot more open minded than Italian girls, + they aren't gold diggers.

How do you meet them, at universities? What kind of game works well? Are those girls slutty or LTR oriented?
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I'd have to say Las Vegas. For all the hype, it can be an expensive tourist trap with tons of traffic, junkies on the street and a serious problem with car theft and break-ins. The Aria and Cosmopolitan were cool to hang out at, but I don't think I'd ever want to live in Vegas long-term. I just don't see what the point is.

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The Philippines. Just my opinion from spending a mere week in urban Manila. I'm certainly not an authority, and I respect a lot of people who've done well here, so take my opinion with a grain of salt

It's gotten a reputation as a pussy paradise, but I think, from what I've experienced from a week in urban Manila, it might follow the similar pattern of other second world countries. You will get more attention as a white guy, whether or not most of it is of a true romantic nature. People will treat you friendlier. There is a working class/underclass that can be gamed by a first world dude of solid economic standing, call it what you will. Overall your bumped up in status, but this same pattern happens a lot closer to home in Latin America, which is my point. I can't differentiate the environment between my second home of Guatemala and this.

But the main thing. A lot of the working class/underclass, and there is a lot of them, that can be gamed by an upstanding white dude, isn't of high quality (short, second world elegance), and has been through the ringer (these girls get hollered at 11 just walking down the street). The girls you'd prefer, of class, may have some attraction to white dudes, especially in a white washed society where the entertainment industry promotes that, but they tend to be conservative and appreciative also of local men to the point where you wonder if it's easier at all to acquire them than American chicks, and what the point is of that

I've seen a lot of lonely 50+ dudes with no game here looking sad or walking around with former bargirls, and think they may have been sold a dream..

This is only a week in urban Manila mind you. I'm not complaining, as you are bumped in status, you get more attention than home, and it's a cool environment. But I'm not seeing the paradise, just the same second world stuff I see in Xela/Guatemala City
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(09-09-2017 07:33 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  I'd have to say Las Vegas. For all the hype, it can be an expensive tourist trap with tons of traffic, junkies on the street and a serious problem with car theft and break-ins. The Aria and Cosmopolitan were cool to hang out at, but I don't think I'd ever want to live in Vegas long-term. I just don't see what the point is.

The biggest issue, bar none, with Vegas is the prostitute factor. Most will reveal from the get-go that they're prostitution whores but a few won't. My wing spent 3 hours with a woman in Vegas until she revealed she was a hooker. Ruined and wasted his entire night.
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(09-10-2017 05:22 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  
(09-09-2017 07:33 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  I'd have to say Las Vegas. For all the hype, it can be an expensive tourist trap with tons of traffic, junkies on the street and a serious problem with car theft and break-ins. The Aria and Cosmopolitan were cool to hang out at, but I don't think I'd ever want to live in Vegas long-term. I just don't see what the point is.

The biggest issue, bar none, with Vegas is the prostitute factor. Most will reveal from the get-go that they're prostitution whores but a few won't. My wing spent 3 hours with a woman in Vegas until she revealed she was a hooker. Ruined and wasted his entire night.

It took 3 hours to figure out? What is his escalation game like?

I think the idea Vegas is crawling with hookers is overstated. It's a very tiny percentage of the women you see in a nightclub and there is mucho tourist poosy. But that 22 year old girl with the high heels on and her tits spilling out of her dress sitting at a slot machine game alone at 4am, staring at every man who walks by, yeah she's a pro.

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(09-10-2017 08:05 AM)LoveBug Wrote:  just the same second world stuff I see in Xela/Guatemala City

This is spot on, I have not been to Guatemala but from my experience in South America its a little bit harder than places like the Philippines but when you get girls they are more genuine where as in places like Manila you are just a novelty and they want to bang simply to get their "white guy notch". Great place to go to strictly bang but if you want to have a decent conversation or spend some time with them and enjoy it forget it.
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(09-11-2017 01:00 AM)Shimmy Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 08:05 AM)LoveBug Wrote:  just the same second world stuff I see in Xela/Guatemala City

This is spot on, I have not been to Guatemala but from my experience in South America its a little bit harder than places like the Philippines but when you get girls they are more genuine where as in places like Manila you are just a novelty and they want to bang simply to get their "white guy notch". Great place to go to strictly bang but if you want to have a decent conversation or spend some time with them and enjoy it forget it.

People Forget something, Guatemala is the most native country in the Americas, same with bolivia.. hence the novelty factor is quite big, and in somways people resemble southeast asians... try doing the same in countries like Argentina or the South of Brazil, no chance..
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(08-25-2017 07:32 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 02:04 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  Italy comes very often. is it that terrible?

With one word, yes.

I agree, mediterranean looks is the worst for women in Europe.. Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, some areas of France.. have the worst women in europe and better looking men, which doesnt make sense visiting..

Compared to Eastern and Northern europe.. if you return from there to a country like portugal or italy you literally fall in depression after couple of days...

I prefer Slavic, Germanic/Scandinavian and Baltic women.
Im hardly turned out by mediterranean women, even the top tier 10% hardly does anything for me... and if I want a hot brunette I rather go to Serbia or Croatia, who have taller women, with long legs and hot slavic features.. than going to italy ,spain where women are quite plain on average.
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(09-11-2017 05:28 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 07:32 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 02:04 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  Italy comes very often. is it that terrible?

With one word, yes.

I agree, mediterranean looks is the worst for women in Europe.. Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, some areas of France.. have the worst women in europe and better looking men, which doesnt make sense visiting..

Compared to Eastern and Northern europe.. if you return from there to a country like portugal or italy you literally fall in depression after couple of days...

I prefer Slavic, Germanic/Scandinavian and Baltic women.
Im hardly turned out by mediterranean women, even the top tier 10% hardly does anything for me... and if I want a hot brunette I rather go to Serbia or Croatia, who have taller women, with long legs and hot slavic features.. than going to italy ,spain where women are quite plain on average.

I seriously don't get all this hate for Spanish women (at least when it comes to their looks). I just came from spending a couple of days in a 3rd tier Spanish city (Murcia) and the talent was VERY good. Yeah, they're very hard to pull, the ratios were horrible and guys were quite thirsty but in terms of looks, it was very high for Western European standards.

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(09-12-2017 05:12 AM)Gopnik Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 05:28 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 07:32 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 02:04 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  Italy comes very often. is it that terrible?

With one word, yes.

I agree, mediterranean looks is the worst for women in Europe.. Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, some areas of France.. have the worst women in europe and better looking men, which doesnt make sense visiting..

Compared to Eastern and Northern europe.. if you return from there to a country like portugal or italy you literally fall in depression after couple of days...

I prefer Slavic, Germanic/Scandinavian and Baltic women.
Im hardly turned out by mediterranean women, even the top tier 10% hardly does anything for me... and if I want a hot brunette I rather go to Serbia or Croatia, who have taller women, with long legs and hot slavic features.. than going to italy ,spain where women are quite plain on average.

I seriously don't get all this hate for Spanish women (at least when it comes to their looks). I just came from spending a couple of days in a 3rd tier Spanish city (Murcia) and the talent was VERY good. Yeah, they're very hard to pull, the ratios were horrible and guys were quite thirsty but in terms of looks, it was very high for Western European standards.

I think it's partly because of their attitude, plus it's true that the average isn't that high
Mediterranean girls (+ Swiss girls) have the shittiest attitude and entitlement levels across all the girls in Europe
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(09-12-2017 05:12 AM)Gopnik Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 05:28 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 07:32 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 02:04 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  Italy comes very often. is it that terrible?

With one word, yes.

I agree, mediterranean looks is the worst for women in Europe.. Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, some areas of France.. have the worst women in europe and better looking men, which doesnt make sense visiting..

Compared to Eastern and Northern europe.. if you return from there to a country like portugal or italy you literally fall in depression after couple of days...

I prefer Slavic, Germanic/Scandinavian and Baltic women.
Im hardly turned out by mediterranean women, even the top tier 10% hardly does anything for me... and if I want a hot brunette I rather go to Serbia or Croatia, who have taller women, with long legs and hot slavic features.. than going to italy ,spain where women are quite plain on average.

I seriously don't get all this hate for Spanish women (at least when it comes to their looks). I just came from spending a couple of days in a 3rd tier Spanish city (Murcia) and the talent was VERY good. Yeah, they're very hard to pull, the ratios were horrible and guys were quite thirsty but in terms of looks, it was very high for Western European standards.

Yep, agreed. Spain has top notch pussy around any corner. I once saw a 9 cleaning the floor of a coffee shop in Merida. I would never see this in Ukraine...
If it is easy there? Of course there will be a bunch of good/ relatively good looking Pepe's, Javi's and Manolo's orbiting on her, or probably she already has a loving boyfriend...but at least they dont give the same value to money as Slavic girls.

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(09-12-2017 08:26 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 05:12 AM)Gopnik Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 05:28 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 07:32 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 02:04 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  Italy comes very often. is it that terrible?

With one word, yes.

I agree, mediterranean looks is the worst for women in Europe.. Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, some areas of France.. have the worst women in europe and better looking men, which doesnt make sense visiting..

Compared to Eastern and Northern europe.. if you return from there to a country like portugal or italy you literally fall in depression after couple of days...

I prefer Slavic, Germanic/Scandinavian and Baltic women.
Im hardly turned out by mediterranean women, even the top tier 10% hardly does anything for me... and if I want a hot brunette I rather go to Serbia or Croatia, who have taller women, with long legs and hot slavic features.. than going to italy ,spain where women are quite plain on average.

I seriously don't get all this hate for Spanish women (at least when it comes to their looks). I just came from spending a couple of days in a 3rd tier Spanish city (Murcia) and the talent was VERY good. Yeah, they're very hard to pull, the ratios were horrible and guys were quite thirsty but in terms of looks, it was very high for Western European standards.

Yep, agreed. Spain has top notch pussy around any corner. I once saw a 9 cleaning the floor of a coffee shop in Merida. I would never see this in Ukraine...
If it is easy there? Of course there will be a bunch of good/ relatively good looking Pepe's, Javi's and Manolo's orbiting on her, or probably she already has a loving boyfriend...but at least they dont give the same value to money as Slavic girls.

For me, only the top 10% of spanish (or any other mediterranean country) girls are hot....the rest are nothing special. The average is one of the worst in the whole Europe (in east europe and north europe is definitely better).
I'd only put the girls from UK to have on average girls of lower quality.

And the top girls in Southern Europe are as gold diggers as the slavic ones, especially after their early 20's
Isn't Sara Sampaio from your country? Look at the guy she's dating. A millionaire.
In Italy, Spain ecc is the same for that caliber of girls (ie top girls). All the top girls are dating athletes, celebrities, djs, entrepreneurs or some other millionaires.

And if you consider looks+attitude....well, South Europe is not the place to be
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^What do you know of Spain? It is not only Barcelona and Madrid...

Maybe because I am kind of blonde, I am not particularly attracted to the plain white blondes whitout salt and pepper, ie the typical Dutch/Belgium/Norway/German look, so I put Spanish chicks above all of them in my books.

As for Sara Sampaio, she is just a cute face who had the luck of being an Irina Shayk lookalike, but with not much to show off in terms of body, in sum she just had some luck. Let that millionaire have her for all I care. Anyway I dont see what is your point, she is a kind of a supermodel so of course these people get along with others from the same circles, unlike the Merida HB9 cleaning the tapas bar floor.

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(09-12-2017 01:19 PM)Rocha Wrote:  ^What do you know of Spain? It is not only Barcelona and Madrid...

Maybe because I am kind of blonde, I am not particularly attracted to the plain white blondes whitout salt and pepper, ie the typical Dutch/Belgium/Norway/German look, so I put Spanish chicks above all of them in my books.

As for Sara Sampaio, she is just a cute face who had the luck of being an Irina Shayk lookalike, but with not much to show off in terms of body, in sum she just had some luck. Let that millionaire have her for all I care. Anyway I dont see what is your point, she is a kind of a supermodel so of course these people get along with others from the same circles, unlike the Merida HB9 cleaning the tapas bar floor.

Yeah but Sara Sampaio was just an example, the point is girls of high quality (8+) tend to date rich guys, no matter if it's in Spain or Russia, especially if they're from big cities....
Village girls in Spain can be different, but the same is true for a girl in a remote village in Siberia.

From my experience girls in South Europe are the most entitled in the whole Europe and can be quite arrogant too
Almost anybody I know is dating down and half the men from South Europe travel across Europe looking for girls...that alone is an accurate indicator that that place sucks for men
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Surprisingly, I have to disagree with Rocha, on the subject of Spanish women.

I find them, in general, and it pains me to say so, plain looking at best, or if beautiful, often lesbians or bi...

Also, their attitude is generally super entitled though they pretend to be cool. Now, maybe there are cities and provinces in Spain with better female prospects, I don't know all of the Spanish provinces, and they do differ a lot...
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(09-12-2017 03:13 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Surprisingly, I have to disagree with Rocha, on the subject of Spanish women.

I find them, in general, and it pains me to say so, plain looking at best, or if beautiful, often lesbians or bi...

Also, their attitude is generally super entitled though they pretend to be cool. Now, maybe there are cities and provinces in Spain with better female prospects, I don't know all of the Spanish provinces, and they do differ a lot...

From my experience Andaluzia and Extremadura are the go to places for top Spanish muff (of course in Madrid a city of 7 mio there are many stunners). Though never been but always heard that in the Canary Islands girls top the mainland ones, even the ones from Andaluzia.

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As for Sara Sampaio....All I can say is that if this is just what that millionaire bangs...I am poor but can bang hotter than him...



   

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(09-12-2017 05:12 AM)Gopnik Wrote:  
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(08-25-2017 07:32 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 02:04 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  Italy comes very often. is it that terrible?

With one word, yes.

I agree, mediterranean looks is the worst for women in Europe.. Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, some areas of France.. have the worst women in europe and better looking men, which doesnt make sense visiting..

Compared to Eastern and Northern europe.. if you return from there to a country like portugal or italy you literally fall in depression after couple of days...

I prefer Slavic, Germanic/Scandinavian and Baltic women.
Im hardly turned out by mediterranean women, even the top tier 10% hardly does anything for me... and if I want a hot brunette I rather go to Serbia or Croatia, who have taller women, with long legs and hot slavic features.. than going to italy ,spain where women are quite plain on average.

I seriously don't get all this hate for Spanish women (at least when it comes to their looks). I just came from spending a couple of days in a 3rd tier Spanish city (Murcia) and the talent was VERY good. Yeah, they're very hard to pull, the ratios were horrible and guys were quite thirsty but in terms of looks, it was very high for Western European standards.

Compared to Italy or Greece, yes. Maybe Spanish women are on the Same level as French women..they are all right but nothing more....Even talking about western europe they Get easily beat by German and Dutch women (at least in the 18-30 age group) and more so by Scandinavian women. Not even dare to compare them to women From Baltic States, Poland, Belarus or Ukraine...
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(09-12-2017 01:19 PM)Rocha Wrote:  ^What do you know of Spain? It is not only Barcelona and Madrid...

Maybe because I am kind of blonde, I am not particularly attracted to the plain white blondes whitout salt and pepper, ie the typical Dutch/Belgium/Norway/German look, so I put Spanish chicks above all of them in my books.

As for Sara Sampaio, she is just a cute face who had the luck of being an Irina Shayk lookalike, but with not much to show off in terms of body, in sum she just had some luck. Let that millionaire have her for all I care. Anyway I dont see what is your point, she is a kind of a supermodel so of course these people get along with others from the same circles, unlike the Merida HB9 cleaning the tapas bar floor.

If I want a hot brunette I would rather go to the balkans where brunettes are far hotter than Spanish women (taller, long legs, and better bodies and faces in my opinion), or even Ukranian women, who although often on the blonde/fairer side , quite a few of them can be surprisingly dark with very dark hair but still slavic looking. Also I find meditarranian women usually too short for my tastes.. unlike in baltic states, germany, holland, Scandinavia or even a country like poland.. where are filled of women 175-180 cm walking in flats (no heels)..
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(09-13-2017 11:40 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 05:12 AM)Gopnik Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 05:28 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 07:32 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 02:04 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  Italy comes very often. is it that terrible?

With one word, yes.

I agree, mediterranean looks is the worst for women in Europe.. Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, some areas of France.. have the worst women in europe and better looking men, which doesnt make sense visiting..

Compared to Eastern and Northern europe.. if you return from there to a country like portugal or italy you literally fall in depression after couple of days...

I prefer Slavic, Germanic/Scandinavian and Baltic women.
Im hardly turned out by mediterranean women, even the top tier 10% hardly does anything for me... and if I want a hot brunette I rather go to Serbia or Croatia, who have taller women, with long legs and hot slavic features.. than going to italy ,spain where women are quite plain on average.

I seriously don't get all this hate for Spanish women (at least when it comes to their looks). I just came from spending a couple of days in a 3rd tier Spanish city (Murcia) and the talent was VERY good. Yeah, they're very hard to pull, the ratios were horrible and guys were quite thirsty but in terms of looks, it was very high for Western European standards.

Compared to Italy or Greece, yes. Maybe Spanish women are on the Same level as French women..they are all right but nothing more....Even talking about western europe they Get easily beat by German and Dutch women (at least in the 18-30 age group) and more so by Scandinavian women. Not even dare to compare them to women From Baltic States, Poland, Belarus or Ukraine...

Dead end argument, to each their own. Give me spanish girls 100× over Germans. No one is making comparisons here. We just said that Spain has talent and does not deserve the hate it is getting in here. For me the best talent in Western Europe is there. Every country has bombshells and ugly chicks...what really matters is getting them the hot ones...whether in Russia or in Liechtenstein.

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The problem is their attitude. Spanish women think they are fun Latinas, but in reality are just unpleasant Western women.

The fat German girl at least know and never pretends that she is fun.
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(09-10-2017 08:05 AM)LoveBug Wrote:  It's gotten a reputation as a pussy paradise, but I think, from what I've experienced from a week in urban Manila, it might follow the similar pattern of other second world countries. You will get more attention as a white guy, whether or not most of it is of a true romantic nature. People will treat you friendlier. There is a working class/underclass that can be gamed by a first world dude of solid economic standing, call it what you will. Overall your bumped up in status, but this same pattern happens a lot closer to home in Latin America, which is my point. I can't differentiate the environment between my second home of Guatemala and this.

But the main thing. A lot of the working class/underclass, and there is a lot of them, that can be gamed by an upstanding white dude, isn't of high quality (short, second world elegance), and has been through the ringer (these girls get hollered at 11 just walking down the street). The girls you'd prefer, of class, may have some attraction to white dudes, especially in a white washed society where the entertainment industry promotes that, but they tend to be conservative and appreciative also of local men to the point where you wonder if it's easier at all to acquire them than American chicks, and what the point is of that

I don't know about the Phillippines per se but from my own travel experiences and discussions with other RVFers, I've learned that it's generally the case that the top tier talent (both in terms of looks and quality) is most often found in the upper echelons of society, wherein the women tend to not have more than a passing curiosity for foreigners. They usually already have plenty of solid local guys to pick and choose from, and might often even be shamed by peers/friends/family for dating outside acceptable circles. You normally have to speak the language and have a solid grasp of the culture to even break into these circles.

Of course there might be exceptions in some countries/societies - I haven't traveled the whole world and don't claim to be an expert at all. Happy to hear of counterexamples...

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