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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
Overrated: Hollywood/Beverly Hills

Underrated: Faroe Islands, Azores, Canary Islands, Svalbard

I know I'm probably going to get shit for my overrated choices, so I'm going to explain. I have never been in a place more saturated with 9+ girls than the Hollywood and Beverly Hills area. I used to go for 1-2 week stays multiple times a year (business). I wasn't actively gaming, but I ended up having a sort of passive game (it took me a while to figure out why). I was dressed like a total schlep but I was getting solid IOIs from service girls. For the uninitiated, all the service girls in this area (baristas, servers, etc) are trying to break in to the acting business. Literally, all of them. And a lot of them are in that 9+/9.5+ range.

But, try talking to one of these girls. I mean, seriously, have a conversation with one for more than five minutes. It will be the most insipid bullshit you have ever heard in your life. I just couldn't take it. Maybe it's because I'm getting old, but there is a maximum level of bullshit I can take from a woman before I just drop all effort and basically try to get them to go away (anti-game? is that a thing?). And, I have found no higher concentration of all the personality traits I hate than Hollywood/BH. I could extend that out, generally to much of Southern California to a lesser extent.

Edit: For those asking about the "passive game" I was running. Essentially, I went to the Chateau Marmont to meet someone, and I ended up seeing some "high up" industry people by the pool. I have no idea, but I'm not in that business. These dudes were all dressed like hobos. This guy I was meeting explained that there is a cultural thing within the industry of wearing extremely expensive clothing that looks like shit, essentially. It's like a shibboleth to people who can spot it. Because there are lots of actual homeless people in the area, I didn't pick up on it. But, I realized that I was dressing like a schlep (for comfort and because I didn't care), but I was wearing comfortable clothing from expensive places. I'm guessing (because really I have no idea) that a lot of these wannabe actresses have a sixth sense for that kind of stuff, and they were assuming I was some kind of insider that could get them ahead. So, if anyone wants to go run some Harvey Weinstein game, don't forget to thank your Uncle Tiger Man for the heads up.

As to my underrated, it's pretty much the exact opposite. I met a number of women in these somewhat remote places who were hot and actually normal. The kind of girl you can talk to without wanting to reenact a scene from American Psycho. The key is to find girls who aren't terribly interested in "leaving home". They are cool with living where they are or want to stay close to their family. I think there is a self-selection here, because, from what I heard in these places, a lot of the young people leave in their early 20s. So, if you find a 23-2x-year-old girl, odds are she stayed for a reason. As an added bonus, some of these places are cool as shit. Svalbard specifically, if you are in to weird arctic adventures, is awesome. If you go, check out Pyramiden. It's an old Soviet coal mining operation that shut down and is now a creepy industrial ghost city. I don't know if anyone played the game Stalker back in the day, but it's pretty much that.

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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
(04-12-2018 04:28 AM)Tiger Man Wrote:  Overrated: Hollywood/Beverly Hills

Underrated: Faroe Islands, Azores, Canary Islands, Svalbard

I know I'm probably going to get shit for my overrated choices, so I'm going to explain. I have never been in a place more saturated with 9+ girls than the Hollywood and Beverly Hills area. I used to go for 1-2 week stays multiple times a year (business). I wasn't actively gaming, but I ended up having a sort of passive game (it took me a while to figure out why). I was dressed like a total schlep but I was getting solid IOIs from service girls. For the uninitiated, all the service girls in this area (baristas, servers, etc) are trying to break in to the acting business. Literally, all of them. And a lot of them are in that 9+/9.5+ range.

But, try talking to one of these girls. I mean, seriously, have a conversation with one for more than five minutes. It will be the most insipid bullshit you have ever heard in your life. I just couldn't take it. Maybe it's because I'm getting old, but there is a maximum level of bullshit I can take from a woman before I just drop all effort and basically try to get them to go away (anti-game? is that a thing?). And, I have found no higher concentration of all the personality traits I hate than Hollywood/BH. I could extend that out, generally to much of Southern California to a lesser extent.

Edit: For those asking about the "passive game" I was running. Essentially, I went to the Chateau Marmont to meet someone, and I ended up seeing some "high up" industry people by the pool. I have no idea, but I'm not in that business. These dudes were all dressed like hobos. This guy I was meeting explained that there is a cultural thing within the industry of wearing extremely expensive clothing that looks like shit, essentially. It's like a shibboleth to people who can spot it. Because there are lots of actual homeless people in the area, I didn't pick up on it. But, I realized that I was dressing like a schlep (for comfort and because I didn't care), but I was wearing comfortable clothing from expensive places. I'm guessing (because really I have no idea) that a lot of these wannabe actresses have a sixth sense for that kind of stuff, and they were assuming I was some kind of insider that could get them ahead. So, if anyone wants to go run some Harvey Weinstein game, don't forget to thank your Uncle Tiger Man for the heads up.

As to my underrated, it's pretty much the exact opposite. I met a number of women in these somewhat remote places who were hot and actually normal. The kind of girl you can talk to without wanting to reenact a scene from American Psycho. The key is to find girls who aren't terribly interested in "leaving home". They are cool with living where they are or want to stay close to their family. I think there is a self-selection here, because, from what I heard in these places, a lot of the young people leave in their early 20s. So, if you find a 23-2x-year-old girl, odds are she stayed for a reason. As an added bonus, some of these places are cool as shit. Svalbard specifically, if you are in to weird arctic adventures, is awesome. If you go, check out Pyramiden. It's an old Soviet coal mining operation that shut down and is now a creepy industrial ghost city. I don't know if anyone played the game Stalker back in the day, but it's pretty much that.

Can you speak more on the Canary Islands? Which island in particular brought you the most success with the 20-30 aged locals?

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04-12-2018 05:58 AM
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
Tiger man drop some datasheet man, those places sound interesting!
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
Over: London
Under: Close tie between Edinburgh & Warsaw

London is the most over-rated city I've ever visited, and it is because it is expensive, has a lot of tourists, weather is shit, and the city really isn't British in character at all. It's so damn cosmopolitan, there's no Britishness left to it. New York is much better in my opinion. Paris may not be as good for business, but it is much better to visit.

Edinburgh is a great city, especially in the summer, is decently easy to get around, and of course cheaper than London. The architecture is amazing, the air clean, and the city has some Scottish character to it. If you are more into hipster places, Edinburgh is great, because there is a thriving restaurant/bar scene with lots of fresh local food. There is also a lot of great art and music stuff happening as well.

Warsaw is a nice EE city, but it is a bit new since a lot of it was bombed in WW2. Prices are cheap, people are helpful, seem not to be as many tourists as Krakow. It feels very worldly for an EE city.
04-12-2018 09:37 AM
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
I would love to hear more about the Faroe Islands, wanted to stop by Orkney and Shetland Islands on the way to Torshavn
04-12-2018 10:58 AM
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
(04-12-2018 08:28 AM)rottenapple Wrote:  Tiger man drop some datasheet man, those places sound interesting!

On it.

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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
Underated
Brisbane: Very low competition compared to Sydney or Melbourne, not many foreigners at all. It feels like real Australia there. Close to Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast.

Montreal: While talked of highly, this place is just fun. Winter is pretty bad but it's quite unique in North America.

Overated
Portland, OR: What a shithole. Was expecting something like Seattle but it was a huge let down. Homeless people everywhere and the nightlife was sad. Depressing city.

Thailand: Found it gross and just not appealing overall, food made me sick as hell. Nice beaches have trash everywhere. I've heard Vietnam is what Thailand used to be so I'd like to check it out there.
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
underrated: Cusco. especially if you're into the backpacker scene. beautiful young women from around the world, solid history/culture, and a nice stopping point along the gringo trail. gets really old after a couple months though. it's essentially a sprawling pueblo. one issue is the local girls aren't all that attractive, unless your'e into the indigenous look

overrated: Bangkok. The song sums this city up pretty well. left me with a layer of grime and lost hope for humanity. Girls were ridiculously easy and some were attractive, though. I'll probably be back.
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
Overrated: Vancouver. Cold entitled women, expensive and the nightlife is full of douches and hipsters.

Underrated: Mendoza Argentina, lots of pretty girls, easier to get than BA, decent beer, great steak and wine scene and enough easy tourists on wine tours for some variety.
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
Underrated: Kharkiv Ukraine, Seville Spain.

Overrated: Bocas del Toro, Panama, and Austin Texas. Bocas is a total tourist trap dump that is only frat boys and drunk backpackers. Austin is filled with feminists and SJWs. Women all want men to be beta-orbiters and agree to every stupid thing that comes out of their mouths. Also a lot of LA people are moving in fast.
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
(04-14-2018 06:53 AM)Adonyx Wrote:  Underated
Brisbane: Very low competition compared to Sydney or Melbourne, not many foreigners at all. It feels like real Australia there. Close to Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast.

Montreal: While talked of highly, this place is just fun. Winter is pretty bad but it's quite unique in North America.

Overated
Portland, OR: What a shithole. Was expecting something like Seattle but it was a huge let down. Homeless people everywhere and the nightlife was sad. Depressing city.

Thailand: Found it gross and just not appealing overall, food made me sick as hell. Nice beaches have trash everywhere. I've heard Vietnam is what Thailand used to be so I'd like to check it out there.

The Gold Coast is really a hidden gem of sorts in Australia. At least, I don't think enough international tourists consider it. They all head to Sydney or Melbourne. Gold Coast is great for a few things. If you want to learn to surf, or you already do, it's a great area. They film all sorts of Australian TV and movies there, so it is easy to go watch a shoot or maybe get an "extra" credit. There are something like 30 theme parks in the area, which you can get a multipass for. They have a froshers? week, which is like the drunk, slutty Australian version of spring break (if you're in to that sort of thing...). And there are just enough foreign girls there, that, if you know the logistics of the area, you can seriously game, night and day.

(04-16-2018 09:56 PM)Freedom35 Wrote:  Overrated: Vancouver. Cold entitled women, expensive and the nightlife is full of douches and hipsters.

Underrated: Mendoza Argentina, lots of pretty girls, easier to get than BA, decent beer, great steak and wine scene and enough easy tourists on wine tours for some variety.

Agreed on Vancouver, over and over again. There is too much Toronto hate on RVF and not enough Vancouver hate. Outside of UBC - and even that is becoming dangerous - there is nowhere to game in VC. The nightclubs are all ungodly expensive and you get no ROI. I found that a lot of the women weren't even hot enough to justify the cover charges. And the social scene is just as bad. I actually find a lot of similarities between Vancouverites and the Dutch. It's like, if you didn't grow up or go to university with a group, they will never fully accept you in to that group.

Vancouver is a very nice looking place. I'll give it that. And, it's great if you are a foodie. I'm not. But, it always gets talked up for the nature scene. Vancouver proper is a concrete jungle. The only natural thing to see is Stanley Park. If you want to surf, avoid Vancouver and go to Tofino. If you want to hit the skis, go to Whistler. Personally, the only time I spend in Vancouver these days is going through the airport.

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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
Most underrated: Poland. It's easy to score in Poland. If you can't, then you simply have no game.

Most Overrated: Philippines. Disgusting women.
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
Most underrated :

Vilnus (Lithuania)
Bergen (Norway)
Zagreb (Croatia)
Aix en Provence (France)

Most Overrated :

Prague (Czech republic)
Stockholm (Sweden)
Budapest (Hungary)
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
@Tiger Man
Im curious about the Canary Islands as well. Looking there for Kitesurfing....which areas did you see that have nice girls/nightlife/other things to do?
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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
(04-22-2018 08:20 AM)burownidl Wrote:  @Tiger Man
Im curious about the Canary Islands as well. Looking there for Kitesurfing....which areas did you see that have nice girls/nightlife/other things to do?

I'm throwing together some data sheets right now. I will include as much as possible on the game side, although I tend to shy away from direct night gaming.

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RE: Most Overrated/Underrated Place You've Been
Underrated: Pattaya
Can I just say that while this is not a forum geared towards p4p - me being a 33 y/o white European I had a blast in Pattaya. No need to pay for sex. It literally comes to you.
The abundance of women will present any decent man with a shortlist of free bangable women. If you do suspect they are in for a sponsor make it clear you are not paying. The next one is just in line.
I didn't even mind the whoring atmosphere, I actually found it rather entertaining.
A big plus for me in Pattaya is that supply and demand in the rental department is more favourable than any other place I have been to before.
So many condos being built. And plenty of them only around 30/40% occupied.
Food and gym was more than affordable for anyone. Another point is that I found everything so much more chilled and relaxed compared to Bangkok. Making friends in Pats was the easiest thing in the world.
You can live a very cheap and good life in Pattaya IMO

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