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(12-27-2019 07:26 PM)Mr Gibbs Wrote:  Idk if anybody knows the process of becoming an officer in the military but you have to have a bachelors degree. Which means at least 4 yrs of the indoctrination that members on this forum are all too aware of... think about that.

This is usually true, though at times (depending upon needs of the service) an enlisted guy can go to OCS with only an associates degree, so long as he completes his bachelors within X number of years. Won't matter much since by the time they get through OCS these days they're probably getting just as much PC training as they would have in the first semester of a four year college. Regardless, I wouldn't get my hopes up about patriotism being the number one motivator for most of them.

An increasing percentage of the armed services - whether officer or enlisted - is in it for the benefits, particularly student loan repayment. So long as we have debt donkeys enslaved by student loan debt, there will be enough cannon fodder ready to participate in an ersatz draft. Given the small size of the conflicts and nature of most combat operations (small units, missile strikes & drones fighting non-state actors), this approach can work - until it doesn't.

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RE: Gun confiscation bill proposed in Virginia
(12-27-2019 12:10 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Anyone got any heartwarming stories about US cops who find an illegal firearm but tell the owner "don't worry, I took an oath, I'm not enforcing any unconstitutional gun laws"?

Not quite exactly that heartwarming, but still decent. I was talking to a small town deputy at the counter in a restaurant one time about this stuff. This was back under Obama. He was saying that him and everyone in his department had agreed if it ever came down to gun confisication and the feds telling police to de arm civilians, no one in his department would enforce it. There was a plan, if it came to that and they were sent to a house they would tell dispatch they arrived, just sit and wait inside the patrol car for five minutes, then get back on the radio and tell dispatch no one was home. Do it again for the next one. I can only hope that attitude still exists out there.

But there's a catch. This was back before every agency from big city cops to small town deputies started using body cameras. Those fucking body cameras. On one hand, they're great to protect the officers from bs accusations, but cops can't get away with shit anymore. Which can be good and bad. Good to catch crooked cops; but bad because society needs a little old fashioned street justice sometimes where you might not wanna a camera rolling. That thing has to be rolling the moment you get out of your car. And because you know everything you do and say is being recorded, and you're one misstep from going viral and being on the internet for eternity more cops are letter of the law these days instead of spirit of the law. They know they're walking on eggshells. They're becoming ever more robotic.

Like in this case gun confiscation. You couldn't get away with looking the other way as an officer. God forbid you try and look the other way, then the guy goes back and blasts his wife in the face. The officers superiors check the body cam footage, see that Deputy Dan didn't confisicate the gun, and then the wife's family comes back and sues the department and personally the officer into oblivion. Bye bye fat pension and benefits. Or even jail time for the officer.

I dunno. The pessimist in me believes most cops wouldn't stand up to gun confisication. Especially in cities. County sheriffs and rural deputies maybe. Knowing the deputies know you know where they live will probably help keep them in check haha. But cities, no way. I can just see them coming to take your shit for sure and take pleasure in it.

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RE: Gun confiscation bill proposed in Virginia
I don’t think most cops would. One of the men who trained me did a stint as a cop and said that it’s about a third each of patriotic types, people who just want a steady government paycheck, and bullies who want a job where they get to beat people up and get away with it.

The first category won’t and the latter two will.
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(12-28-2019 06:20 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  I don’t think most cops would.

The first category won’t and the latter two will.

To answer the question, just search stories of cops who have reported or stopped illegal activity within their unit and what happened to them. Keep in mind that most of them reported relatively low-level corruption, like another cop used excessive force.

The reporting good cops, who would be the ones to disobey confiscation orders, are ostracized and/or prosecuted for being snitches, and then there is a group meeting so the other sheeple cops can be told to agree to never respond back-up requests from the cops who reported, so they quit. The Serpico story is real and would happen again in any large city in the USA.

Just look at the police commissioner in Portland, OR. And the police chief in Chicago, who supported an investigation into Jussie Smollett, he was fired by the new black lesbian mayor.

The only exception to this I would expect are some small jurisdictions where the city, county, police, and sheriff leadership are based and redpilled. I'm sure there are a few here and there among the 3000 counties in America.

And next year George Soros will primary them. Sorry for the blackpill, but IMO depending on a tiny percentage of good cops or good soldiers to resist globohomo is not the answer. Nor is running to Idaho, nor building a bunker, etc.
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Governor is doing everything he can to antagonize gun owners:

Quote:Virginia Governor Declares State Of Emergency Ahead Of Gun Rights Rally

Fearing potential violence, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam is declaring a state of emergency and is banning firearms and other weapons on the Capitol grounds in Richmond ahead of a gun rights demonstration planned for next week.

"We have received credible intelligence from our law enforcement agencies that there are groups with malicious plans for the rally that is planned for Monday," Northam said during a press conference Wednesday afternoon.

Gun rights supporters are preparing to converge on Richmond for a lobbying day and a rally Monday morning. They're opposed to efforts by Virginia Democrats — who've just taken over control of the Virginia legislature following the November 2019 elections — to pass a slate of gun control bills backed by Northam.

The event, hosted by Virginia Citizens Defense League, is expected to draw thousands of armed demonstrators, some from out of state. Organizers have said they hope to hold a peaceful event.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/15/796666321...-gun-rally

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West Virginia Plans To Accept Virginia Counties That Secede Over Gun Control Concerns

Quote:As the prospect of full-on gun confiscation measures enacted by the government of Virginia seems more likely than ever, the West Virginia Legislature has introduced a resolution, which, if passed, would grant Constitution-friendly Virginia counties the right to secede and join West Virginia.

https://nationalfile.com/west-virginia-p...-concerns/
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The emergency declaration is a cunning play by that snake.

Politicians know that nothing is more important than the veneer of due process when it comes to cracking down on dissidents. Although it's hard to know the best course forward, the reality is that it's out of the hands of 99% of us anyway so all we can do is pray for steady hands and steady hearts to prevail.

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I think this is the wrong time for Virginia to crack down this hard and it just shows how deranged Northam is. This strategy won't work. So unless this crackdown is meant to ignite a physical conflict the Dems will lose, they're on the wrong track. Which is fine with me, Northam is a baby murdering scum and now we see how carefully chosen his words were in Dec. 2018 about "comforting" infants.
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Bringing up Charlottesville to fear monger is absurd. Given that was a setup by the local authorities anyway, and the violence was fists and a car. I really hope the boomers are waking up here.
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It will be interesting to see if this protest is allowed to happen or if leftist activists are allowed to show up and commit violence and shut it down.
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MSM is giving this zero coverage. Many people don’t even know it’s going on.
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(01-15-2020 08:35 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Governor is doing everything he can to antagonize gun owners:

Quote:Virginia Governor Declares State Of Emergency Ahead Of Gun Rights Rally

Fearing potential violence, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam is declaring a state of emergency and is banning firearms and other weapons on the Capitol grounds in Richmond ahead of a gun rights demonstration planned for next week.

"We have received credible intelligence from our law enforcement agencies that there are groups with malicious plans for the rally that is planned for Monday," Northam said during a press conference Wednesday afternoon.

Gun rights supporters are preparing to converge on Richmond for a lobbying day and a rally Monday morning. They're opposed to efforts by Virginia Democrats — who've just taken over control of the Virginia legislature following the November 2019 elections — to pass a slate of gun control bills backed by Northam.

The event, hosted by Virginia Citizens Defense League, is expected to draw thousands of armed demonstrators, some from out of state. Organizers have said they hope to hold a peaceful event.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/15/796666321...-gun-rally

Out of state, I mentioned that in the civil war thread I think that Virginia would be worried when out of state actors started to get involved. They probably did estimates, plans and strategy based on their own population but not others coming in and creating a bundy ranch sized resistance.

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(01-16-2020 05:57 AM)Thomas Jackson Wrote:  Bringing up Charlottesville to fear monger is absurd. Given that was a setup by the local authorities anyway, and the violence was fists and a car. I really hope the boomers are waking up here.

This protest will have a false flag incident, like Charlottesville, to make white people (most people at that rally will be white) and gun rights activists look bad. I doubt they'll have a Dodge Challenger product placement, but something notable will likely happen.

The guy organizing this rally acted like a moron on Sacha Baron Cohen's show. You can expect to see him playing the role of idiotic gun rights activist after some (planned) incident at this event.





(01-16-2020 08:26 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  MSM is giving this zero coverage. Many people don’t even know it’s going on.

Someone posted a clip from Tucker's show, so it's getting some MSM coverage.
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This is a perfect opportunity for the deep state to drop in an mk ultra plant or a few of them who goes nuts and shoots a bunch of people.
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(01-16-2020 05:57 AM)Thomas Jackson Wrote:  Bringing up Charlottesville to fear monger is absurd. Given that was a setup by the local authorities anyway, and the violence was fists and a car. I really hope the boomers are waking up here.

They won't, unfortunately

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(12-24-2019 09:22 AM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  Does anybody really believe that a heavily-armed hillbilly militia is going to wage guerilla war against the government coming to get their guns? I don't.

The memes are funny and all, but living in the Deep South as someone from elsewhere (Texas), I have yet to see one bit of evidence that the tough-guy deep south bro persona is anything other than an act. It's all bark, no bite, just a fashion statement like jacked-up four-door Jeep Wranglers with aftermarket angry face grilles. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised when most, if not all, obediently hand over muh gunz. I don't think they're going to use muh gunz for jack squat, short of the full-scale doomsday prepper apocalyptic survivalist wet dream where it's "acceptable" to shoot feral diversitrons rushing at their homestead, 90s arcade game Area 51 style.

The problem is that there's a lot of "gray area" between legal gun ownership and societal collapse where I doubt anyone is going to fight back. Ruby Ridge seemingly debunked that decades ago, along with Bundy Ranch. I doubt that the average southern gunbro has the aggression and fighting spirit of, say, a Mexican drug cartel thug or Taliban insurgent.

On the other hand, it's just as likely that this law doesn't get enforced, especially outside of large urban areas, so it might be a moot point anyway.

History lesson to follow ...

You mention Ruby Ridge and Bundy Ranch ...

Waco Texas?

I can't believe you forgot about Waco Texas.

Politicians would be good to remember that Federal Agents were harmed, no one wants that to happen. Wives and children give politicians hell when their loved ones come back expired from an arguable lawful/unlawful adventure or operation.

Also, keep in mind the idea of "buy-in", the people can have buy in for their cause and the Agents can have the same. Will it last for either party?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/atf-agents-fat...d=52148324

Democrat Janet Reno and Democrat Bill Clinton were in charge.

It is said that the Waco Texas incident caused the Oklahoma City bombing. For those that don't click the Wiki link, basically a federal building was destroyed by a guy that was upset about the Waco incident which killed "75 people dead [US Citizens], including 25 children" (arguably over a otherwise routine Police arrest/action).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Some of you guys were probably born in the year 2000. Wow, you may not know history.

And for you history fanatics we also have the Battle of Athens when WWII Veterans returned from war and took over power from corrupt politicians. Vets attacked to restore order.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_...%281946%29

"Estimates of the number of veterans besieging the jail vary from several hundred[15] to as high as 2,000.[11] Bill White had at least 60 under his command. White split his group with Buck Landers taking up position at the bank overlooking the jail while White took the rest by the Post Office."

I hope anyone that is unlearned will take a few minutes to read a little of the material above.

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(01-16-2020 06:25 PM)Mike_Key Wrote:  I can't believe you forgot about Waco Texas.
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Democrat Janet Reno and Democrat Bill Clinton were in charge.

My understanding from what I've read was that the Waco situation was building just as Hillary was preparing to unveil her national healthcare program, and that she basically gave orders to shut it down asap so her moment of glory would not be overshadowed. Add that to the Clinton bodycount, I suppose.

Thanks for the Battle of Athens info.

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What the VA Governor is doing all sounds so suspicious.

I mean, the "white"nationalist threat, the storming of the gates. He literally thinks that he can bait people into doing what he and his (((handlers))) want.

Btw, democracy is a bad idea. Sad enough, we need to go back to strongmen and kings!
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That's utterly, transparently, what is going on.

The play seems to be "Charlottseville was effective, let's see if we can create a repeat of that in order to justify massively cracking down on the right!".
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(01-16-2020 06:56 PM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  
(01-16-2020 06:25 PM)Mike_Key Wrote:  I can't believe you forgot about Waco Texas.
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Democrat Janet Reno and Democrat Bill Clinton were in charge.

My understanding from what I've read was that the Waco situation was building just as Hillary was preparing to unveil her national healthcare program, and that she basically gave orders to shut it down asap so her moment of glory would not be overshadowed. Add that to the Clinton bodycount, I suppose.

Thanks for the Battle of Athens info.

I know a guy in touch daily with a Lieutenant General that happened to serve in the military around that time of Bill and Hillary. I'll ask my buddy if this General has mentioned similar ideas and I wouldn't be surprised if he alludes to it (Hillary and her healthcare plan, I remember that bus tour).

Also, apparently two groups that are 2A filed lawsuits against the temporary Gun Ban at the upcoming Virginia protest, I believe if not mistaken. (anyone with links?)

Lastly, everyone keep in mind pay and salary. An officer, an agent, a centurion, police and/or military - they like a pay check but too they have actual written contracts or "spoken" contracts (~a military agent). Not only does the Governor hope that these State Soldiers have buy in - the Governor hopes that their negotiated pay-check is enough ($$$) for them to put themselves at risk for a movement (should any such movement begin).

Prior to writing this entry, I texted a friend, this good source confirmed that once a vast number of Police Officers in a particular PD - all of a sudden came down with "Blue Flu". They called in sick because the re-negotiated contract was an insult to them. And this happened during otherwise good and happy times.

All is not always friendly between Mayors ($$$), Governors ($$$$$) and Police Officers ($).

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North Carolina (NC) has been watching Virginia Democrats closely on Gun Control & 2nd Amendment. Davidson County has joined a growing list of counties in NC that are Second Amendment sanctuaries as you can see in the videos below.



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Davidson County commissioners unanimously vote to become Second Amendment protection county
Quote:BY Lee O. Sanderlin Winston-Salem Journal Jan 14, 2020 Updated Jan 14, 2020

LEXINGTON — Davidson County gun owners can claim a victory as the Board of Commissioners voted unanimously Tuesday night to make the county a Second Amendment protection county.

The board, which is made up of seven Republicans, heard from 20 members of a standing-room-only crowd of more than 150 during a 30-minute public-comment period. Every person who spoke did so in favor of the proposed Second Amendment protection resolution.

“I want every one of you to think long and hard about the decision to declare Davidson County a sanctuary county for the Second Amendment,” Tina Snyder, a Lexington resident, said. “There’s a lot of patriots standing behind me who would support that decision, and they’re voting, too.”

The resolution, introduced by commissioner Zak Crotts, affirms the county’s support of the right to keep and bear arms and prohibits the use of any county resources to enforce a law that would unconstitutionally infringe upon those rights. Davidson County joined Wilkes, Stokes, Surry, Rowan, Lincoln and Cherokee counties in passing such a resolution.

However, the resolution holds no legislative power based on the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution that establishes federal law as taking precedence over any state or local law. Commissioners Steve Shell, Chris Elliott and Crotts spoke in favor of the resolution before the vote.

Shell, who said he was quoting former President Ronald Reagan, said the only real gun control is disarming the “thugs.”

Every person who spoke received vigorous applause and cheers from the crowds assembled in the meeting room and in the hallway outside of the meeting room. So many people attended to support the Second Amendment, the Davidson County Fire Marshal restricted access to the Commissioner Chambers about 20 minutes before the meeting started.

James Shores, a Republican candidate for the Board of Commissioners and sworn officer with the Thomasville Police Department, publicly displayed what appeared to be a firearm on his hip during his speech. Firearms are prohibited inside the Davidson County Governmental Center, but because Shores is law enforcement, he is allowed to have his weapon.

“Right now as we speak there’s a huge liberal movement to take our guns from us,” Shores said. “The people of this county want to send a message to the liberal legislators in Raleigh and our governor. I urge each and everyone of you to think about the bigger picture going on.”

Many of those in attendance wore U.S. President Donald Trump hats and T-shirts, while some people made their own custom T-shirts specifically for the event. In December 2018, Trump’s administration did enact a form of gun-control, banning bump stocks. A “bump stock” is a plastic or metal device that can be attached to the rear of a semiautomatic rifle to make it shoot almost as fast as a fully automatic weapon.

One man, Barney Hill of Thomasville, questioned the board’s gumption. Hill said the county commissioners should treat “Uncle Sam” as tenderly as any other “deadbeat relative.”

“Once Washington or Raleigh threatens to retaliate by snatching away your precious grants, I think you will crumble like a vanilla wafer,” Hill said. “Pass the resolution and prove me wrong.”

Perhaps the biggest cheers of the night came for Davidson County Sheriff’s Deputy Tripp Kester, who spoke while wearing his sheriff’s office uniform. Kester called the Second Amendment “God given,” and called on the board to publicly demonstrate its willingness to protect those rights. Speaking with a hardened look on his face, Kester said as a law enforcement officer he would not enforce any law infringing on his right to keep and bear arms.

“I’m going to protect the people of the county regardless of what’s done here,” Kester said. “Let’s get on board and let’s do the right thing. We’re not going to allocate any personnel, finances, resources or anything to infringe on their liberties.”

Daniel Watson, an eighth-grade social studies teacher with Davidson County Schools, said he was almost reduced to tears that this debate is even an issue, claiming the founding fathers would be rolling in their graves if they knew the Second Amendment was ever at risk.

“The Second Amendment gives the First Amendment its teeth,” Watson said. “(Democrats) will come for your Bibles next.”
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How convenient ...

Quote:FBI arrests fugitive Canadian reservist after tapping into encrypted neo-Nazi chatroom
Patrik Mathews and two other alleged members of a right-wing hate group were arrested in Maryland, accused of building a homemade 'machine gun'


Patrik Mathews had barely been identified as an alleged member of an extreme white-supremacist group last summer when he simply disappeared.

The discovery of the Canadian Army reservist’s pickup truck near Manitoba’s border with Minnesota strongly hinted at where he’d gone, as did later media reports suggesting he was in the United States.

But for the last five months, as the RCMP and the Department of National Defence investigated, Mathews’ precise whereabouts have been a question mark.

That mystery was solved Thursday, as U.S. officials announced the Canadian and two other alleged members of a right-wing hate group called The Base were arrested in Maryland, accused of building a homemade “machine gun,” stockpiling ammunition and trying to cook up an LSD-like drug.

Federal police had put the trio under video surveillance and somehow accessed encrypted chat rooms used by the group, a criminal complaint filed in a Maryland court stated.

The FBI charged Mathews, 27, with various offences, including being an “alien” in possession of firearms and transporting guns and ammunition with intent to commit a serious crime. The others were charged with weapons offences and harbouring an alien.

The Base has made a name for itself with a series of propaganda videos and rapid growth over the last two years. But the apprehension of members accused of making actual preparations for violence is a turning point, said Josh Lipowsky, senior researcher with the New York-based Counter Extremism Project.

“This raises the profile of The Base and establishes its credibility as a threat that we are addressing,” he said. “It recognizes that The Base needs to be confronted.”

The arrests also came just a few days before a planned pro-gun rally in Richmond, Va., where the governor declared a state of emergency amid fears the demonstration could spawn white-supremacist violence.

Though not mentioned in the criminal complaint, the New York Times quoted unnamed government officials as saying the arrested men had discussed attending the event.

“It’s hard to miss the timing,” said Evan Balgord, executive director of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network. “Several militia and neo-Nazi groups are going to the gun rally. The would-be terrorists among them are likely thinking the faceoff between these militias and government is a golden opportunity to start their race war, or at least a shootout.”

The U.S. charging document cited discussions within encrypted chat rooms that give a flavour of the organization. Members of The Base talk about creating a white “ethno-state,” committing violent acts against African Americans, Jews and other minorities, running military-style training camps and creating improvised explosive devices, the complaint says.

They are “acceleration neo-Nazis, meaning that they want to use violence and terrorism to bring about what they see as an inevitable race war sooner,” says Balgord.

Mathews had been a Manitoba-based combat engineer — with the rank of master corporal — in the army reserves. He was released from the Forces after a Winnipeg Free Press reporter went undercover to infiltrate The Base, and accused him of being one of the group’s recruiters.

Then, as the Canadian Forces came under scrutiny for harbouring alleged white supremacists, Mathews vanished.

The RCMP investigated him as a missing-persons case but that probe has been concluded and no charges are pending against him in Canada, a spokeswoman for the force said Thursday. She mentioned nothing about investigating his alleged extremist links.

The complaint filed by U.S. authorities fills in some of the blanks.

Mathews slipped over the Manitoba-Minnesota border last Aug. 19, and about 10 days later was picked by two other alleged members of The Base in Michigan, according to the document filed in a U.S. District Court in Greenbelt, Md.

Mathews, Brian Mark Lemley, 33, and William Garfield Bilbrough, 19, drove southeast, with Lemley and Mathews renting an apartment together last November in Elkton, Md., halfway between Philadelphia and Maryland.

Last December, they used parts they ordered to build a functioning assault rifle, and tried to manufacture DMT, an illegal hallucinogenic drug with effects similar to LSD, said the complaint.

FBI officers observed and videotaped Mathews and Lemley at a gun range in nearby Delaware earlier this month.

Lemley commented that the rifle appeared to fire more than one round at a time, the document charges. “Oh, oops, looks like I accidentally made a machine gun,” the document quotes him as saying to the Canadian.

Lemley, a former “cavalry scout” in the U.S. army, then reportedly said “I’m going to stow it until next week, just in case the ATF shows up tomorrow,” referring to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

“Um, if they show up, we got other problems,” Mathews replied, according to the complaint.

Over six days in January, the pair bought a total of 2,000 rounds of ammunition and obtained “plate carriers” that can hold body armour, says the document.

The three were scheduled to appear in court in Greenbelt Thursday.

Feds saw an opportunity
Canadian media absolutely hounded this guy, media in both countries are running with the narrative to link this to the Virginia rally.

Dude should have just crossed into Wyoming and lay low in the Rockies...

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Quote:Mathews had been a Manitoba-based combat engineer — with the rank of master corporal — in the army reserves. He was released from the Forces after a Winnipeg Free Press reporter went undercover to infiltrate The Base, and accused him of being one of the group’s recruiters.

Then, as the Canadian Forces came under scrutiny for harbouring alleged white supremacists, Mathews vanished.

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Lemley, a former “cavalry scout” in the U.S. army, then reportedly said “I’m going to stow it until next week, just in case the ATF shows up tomorrow,” referring to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

These guys always have military connections. Big coincidence, I suppose.

I'd also assume a Cavalry Scout would have better opsec than this clown.
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