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Evangelical Non-Denominational Churches
Hey folks,
I'm going to be church shopping in the next few weeks.

While Orthodox seems interesting, the Christian culture in Texas is definitely protestant and mega church leaning and there's a lot more social opportunities at these churches. I was born as a Southern Baptist anyway.

Anyone have experiences going to these mega churches? Specifically, getting involved in the social groups at these churches and meeting cool guys/girls? Is it worth it, or should I try a smaller venue?

I attended a few sunday services at some mega churches in Dallas. I feel almost like in a smaller venue you can do better to make your presence known. I'm on the fence about that knowing the built in social component of the mega churches.
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Why Larry David?
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(01-01-2020 02:13 PM)rotekz Wrote:  Why Larry David?

Love em. He's one of my favorite comedians.
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RE: Evangelical Non-Denominational Churches
To help you decide... why do you want to join a church?

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(01-01-2020 03:20 PM)Roosh Wrote:  To help you decide... why do you want to join a church?

I think brotherhood and community are important to keep your spirituality intact. Everything else that one needs can come from that. Don't know where you'll find that outside of church.
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RE: Evangelical Non-Denominational Churches
With mega churches, the social action is in home groups and joining one or more church ministries. It is possible to just attend Sunday worship, and remain anonymous. I've done this at some churches where I wanted it that way. If you visit a small church, they can be all over you trying to draw you in. This can be a bit much for an introvert.

You can go to a mega church, get a feel for the place, then gradually dip a toe in the water of joining activities where you will get to know people. Also, a mega church might have 20-30 ministry opportunities, so you can pick something that really suits you.

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RE: Evangelical Non-Denominational Churches
Start with a mega church until you get back into the groove of things, then move on to a smaller church with lots of old people. Use that as your home church while still doing social events at the mega church.

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RE: Evangelical Non-Denominational Churches
If you are looking for fellowship with true spiritual brothers, it would be pretty unlikely to find such like-minded men at a "megachurch". Why? Well, generally, such establishments of man can be quite "seeker-friendly". As a result, many "feel good" messages are preached for fear of losing out on mammon/unnecessary tithes from their (often) fairweather attendees who would rather not hear the truth about their luke-warmness in the faith, but would rather pat themselves on the back for attending "sunday church", which isn't even biblical! But don't expect them to know that... how many people do you know who claim to be "christian" have even picked up a bible?

"Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." Luke 13:23-24

"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." - Revelation 3:16


There's no suggestion of corporate "megachurches" in Scripture. If you can find a home bible study, that might be your best shot... Multiple verses suggest such groups:

"Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ." - Romans 16:5

"The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house." - Corinthians 16:19


If you REALLY feel drawn to a particular "megachurch" and aren't sure why (or are), maybe its the Holy Spirit guiding you. Perhaps there might be someone attending on the day you go that's also seeking true fellowship and is a newcomer to the place like yourself.

"The things which are impossible with men are possible with God." - Luke 18:27

But as far as "regulars" go, you probably wouldn't find many (any?) true brothers at such a mammon-driven establishment. Sadly, the same can be said even for smaller "churches"... but this shouldn't come as much of a surprise, as God tells us that there are only a few:

"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." - Matthew 7:14

Not trying to discourage you... just sharing the truth.

"And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see. Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!" - 1 John 46-47

It can be pretty disappointing to come across such false brethern, so being "prepared" to be disappointed can lessen the sting. Just don't lose heart. There are brothers here for you. And, God-willing, you will find a group in your area as well.

Will pray that God guides you to true spiritual brethern.
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RE: Evangelical Non-Denominational Churches
Churchian <> Christian

If you join a Church for worldly reasons it does nothing to save your soul.

I would look for a Church with proper teaching and devout, believing people.

Go to Toastmasters if you want business connections.

For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. Rom 1:22
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(01-01-2020 08:36 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  Churchian <> Christian

If you join a Church for worldly reasons it does nothing to save your soul.

I would look for a Church with proper teaching and devout, believing people.

Go to Toastmasters if you want business connections.

You got it. A "christian" and a "church-goer"... some people seem to confuse the two.

Sadly, many view "church" as nothing more than a social club.

A great way to check if a church is "walking the talk" is to see if they are helping the poor, i.e. feeding the hungry, clothing the needy, etc, rather than spending outrageous sums on insanely high electricity bills caused by air conditioning their unncessarily-massive prideful venues.

"If ye love me, keep my commandments." - John 14:15

"And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" - Luke 6:46

"By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." - John 13:35

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. - Matthew 25:41-45
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(01-01-2020 05:09 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  With mega churches, the social action is in home groups and joining one or more church ministries. It is possible to just attend Sunday worship, and remain anonymous. I've done this at some churches where I wanted it that way. If you visit a small church, they can be all over you trying to draw you in. This can be a bit much for an introvert.

You can go to a mega church, get a feel for the place, then gradually dip a toe in the water of joining activities where you will get to know people. Also, a mega church might have 20-30 ministry opportunities, so you can pick something that really suits you.

Good advice.
I'm not an introvert so for me, it's a matter of just making the effort to attend and being consistent.
I'll try megachurches first since they seem the most engaging to people my age.
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(01-01-2020 08:29 PM)John16:13 Wrote:  If you are looking for fellowship with true spiritual brothers, it would be pretty unlikely to find such like-minded men at a "megachurch". Why? Well, generally, such establishments of man can be quite "seeker-friendly".

What does that mean?
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RE: Evangelical Non-Denominational Churches
One thing that's been mentioned is churchians and watered down, seeker-friendly teaching. This is a fair criticism of many mega churches. However, at least some have a core group of mature, Bible believing, active Christians.

I've heard it presented as an example of the 80/20 rule. 20% of the members do 80% of the ministry work. These core members pray, study their Bibles, and live their faith in active ministry. The Sunday services may feature feel good messages and encouragement to seek God, but the Bible studies and ministries are solid and serious Christians.

Now some are Churchian to the core, and some are faithful to the core. You'll have to do some investigating to find out which is which.

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Nothing wrong with “seeker friendly” for someone who knows nothing about the faith, just make sure they aren’t liberals and promoting Zionism or feminism. My old Protestant church was extremely “seeker friendly” and the only reason I kept going back and learning more was because I felt welcomed, loved, and not remotely judged for the past I was trying to move away from. Without that initial welcome I’d have never given Christianity a second thought.

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(01-01-2020 10:54 PM)FullThrottleTX Wrote:  What does that mean?

Basically, sugarcoating the message to get more "tithes" from people who would stop coming if they felt called-out about their ungodly habits
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(01-01-2020 01:46 PM)FullThrottleTX Wrote:  Anyone have experiences going to these mega churches?


Yeah, I have a lot of friends that go to two mega churches and I get dragged along sometimes. The prosperity gospel seems to get more popular the larger the megachurch. The pastors at both the ones I'm familiar with love to talk about how Jesus wants them to be rich, how important it is to support Israel, and how evil Roman Catholics are.

(01-01-2020 01:46 PM)FullThrottleTX Wrote:  Specifically, getting involved in the social groups at these churches and meeting cool guys/girls?

With several hundred, or even several thousand attendees, there will be a bunch of cliques. And one of the cliques will be the holy people struggling towards salvation. But there will be all sorts and conditions of men at a large church. Fast, easy women; band nerds; autistic men; leftists; pretty much everything.

(01-01-2020 01:46 PM)FullThrottleTX Wrote:  Is it worth it, or should I try a smaller venue?

No reason not to try both. If you live in a city large enough to have megachurches, you've probably got room to shop around and find a church that will benefit you spiritually whether it's large or small.
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