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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
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That's not how we do things in Russia, comrade.

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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
I don’t speak for Roosh, but I have a reply to those who are saying ‘but the travel forum wasn’t all about sex’ – as if that justifies everything or anything. Once you start seeing the whole corrupt picture of modern society, it’s impossible to unsee all the little details that make it up – and if you are honest, you start detaching yourself from all of its parts. And travel IS one of its parts.

Sex obsession is only one of the faces of the globohomo social structure. You may or may not like to admit it, but tourism and travel are a subset of consumerist culture and a very powerful, popular and destructive one – both on a personal and on a national level.

First, the sexual adventurism aspect of tourism is a feature, not a bug. Even if you don’t go with that intention at all, it often exposes you to more situations where casual sex can happen, due to the fleeting nature of the experience, the anonymity, etc. But even if you take the sex out of it, it is still a fleeting consumerist experience, tailored to alienate you from your life by seeking thrills outside of it.

It works the same way as any other escape promoted by globohomo, and the point is to make you more passive and escape, instead of focusing on how you can improve your own life at home, facing the problems there. It encourage disengagement, cosmopolitanism and thrill-seeking behavior by itself.

This on a personal level.

On a national level, tourism turns ancient sites and structures into entertainment, devoid of any cultural, historical and spiritual meaning; it transforms economies so that they depend on this influx of disengaged, cosmopolitan people – and become subservient to global trends of popularity. In Europe, all of our historic sites are now but amusement parks for bored urbanites looking to increase their Instagram selfie collections. In places where ancient culture is still somewhat alive, it is a major vehicle for killing it in the name of progress and economic development.

Even in places where nature is the attraction, it commoditizes it. I think Roosh realized this during Babylon Road, seeing all those parks, the people going there and how nature, instead of being taken as a gift from God, is taken as a souvenir in a gift shop. A man should have his own corner of nature, not go around taking bits and pieces from far away for his picture book. It desacralizes it as much as it does the ancient churches now opened for tourists to see ‘the beautiful architecture’.

Like it or not, modern travel is one of the cornerstones of the bugman deathstyle.

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01-07-2020 06:20 AM
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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
@ilostabet

No, I travel for myself, not for "globohomo". As a result, I now live life on my own terms and live a much freeer existance in the Philippines, where men act like men, women act like women, people live life for themselves and their families without much regard for politics, taxes, laws etc. As long as you're not hurting somebody, people just let each other get on with whatever they want to do without hating each other or finding problems with each other like you and those around you do. "Globohomo" isn't a part of my vocabulary. Due to increasing tourism, places of natural beauty here are now being preserved and protected whereas in the past, they would be stripped of their natural resources or sold off to corrupt local politicians as that was more profitable. Mass tourism brings in more money than logging, fishing, corrupt provincial 3rd world politicans or much else can bring in and people do not want to mess up their money train.
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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
IMO this is wrong in many aspects.

First of all, Travel and Game section was not only about sex and ONS. It was also an information guide about tourism, safety, business atmosphere, taxes, women behaviour there, racism etc.

On the other hand knowing women, their behaviour, their morals, how their brain works out etc it is very very neccessary in the world we live in. Nothing to do with sin. Just believing in God, with not help you find the right path and woman in your life. Remember, God favours the Braves.

Secondly, I think Roosh, you should have more respect about the thousands of hours and contributions many men have given there.

Countless men have spent thousands of hours there being active and informing about a large deal of stuff. This forum would have not become famous without them.

Thirdly, why would you want to delete the past.

Christians never delete or forget their past. They always remember it , so they never forgrt where they were and always try to become better men.

I think this forum will lose more members and will become more and more inactive by doing what you have planned.
01-07-2020 08:17 AM
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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
All welcome at Swooptheworld forum. I've copied my personal travel datasheets over there.
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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
Roosh, as a long, long time reader and paying customer (workshops and books) this is beyond shitty. Fair enough that you have had a change in values and goals in life but this is shitty to all of your old readers but this is a good resource for me and others, regardless of what exactly we are a looking for. I would ask that you reconsider.

Is the next step to completely delete all of your other content that doesn't pertain to following god?
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I contributed information on food, prophylaxis, visas, and beaches in good faith to help others get to know the same beautiful places as I did, with no degenerate intent. That's why it seems wrong to me to just erase all that content, but in the end it's your forum to do with as you please.

LOL at ilostabet arguing that tourism is a globhomo conspiracy to keep us complacent. Seriously man, lighten up. Not everything in this life has to be a (((globalist))) plot.

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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
Can you remove it from http://www.rooshvforum.com to old.rooshvforum.com???

I use the travel forum for about 10 years now like most people here to help us travel. It's not just about women but about places to see, good hotels, gym, food, news, etc.. It's the best travel guide online!

It won't be apart of your main site! Please think about the 10,000 users that log on every month! Just like ROK, it's outstanding information that should always be online.
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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
Looks like I need to stock up information for that trip to Brazil that I want to take sometime in the next few years....

My only gripe is that I wish we had gotten a one month notice instead of just a one week notice. I think that would have softened the blow. Oh well.
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(01-07-2020 09:31 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I contributed information on food, prophylaxis, visas, and beaches in good faith to help others get to know the same beautiful places as I did, with no degenerate intent. That's why it seems wrong to me to just erase all that content, but in the end it's your forum to do with as you please.

LOL at ilostabet arguing that tourism is a globhomo conspiracy to keep us complacent. Seriously man, lighten up. Not everything in this life has to be a (((globalist))) plot.

I never said it was a conspiracy. I don't believe in conspiracies - or rather, I don't think they are relevant. I understand the necessities of the system, and which incentives and escape valves it requires - of which tourism is one. It's the same with audiovisual entertainment.

And @the-dream, maybe you are the exception. I wasn't talking about individual cases, but societal trends - what I wrote should be obvious, but it doesn't mean the truth does not hurt. It hurts me too - not because I like to travel, but because I see what my city, country and continent has become because of tourism and what it does to meaningful historical sites. When you write 'As long as you're not hurting somebody, people just let each other get on with whatever they want to do without hating each other or finding problems with each other like you and those around you do' - this libertarian credo is what led us to the place we are. I didn't do it. I don't hate anybody and I don't have problems with the people I am around. I am married, I have friends and family. Maybe you are butthurt about what I wrote. Don't be. As you said, you do you right?

As for what tourism has done that is good in opposition to other potential bads - two wrongs don't make a right.

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If he gets rid of the leftist meme thread I'll go ballistic.

That's not how we do things in Russia, comrade.

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Men are getting an education on property law. When you post something on a forum, it is the forum owner’s property to do with what he pleases including destroying it. When you write something you want to preserve, always store it in your own personal records first and then feel free to copy the exact post to more than one forum.

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I think it's about time we start migrating key information (data sheets, top posts, etc.) to a new site. This is basically the equivalent of burning a library - thousands of man hours have been put into assembling this knowledge. Roosh is throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but perhaps we can save some of the best of those two subforums for future men. Let me know what you guys think, I'm willing to set something up on the side.
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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
Well have fun being all 'Christian' and whatnot. Religion keeps people ALSO oppressed and if we look closely to what leftists do, well guess what? They copy what religious authorities do! I pity everyone who falls for religion, especially for Islam. If you, on your own, can't have values, but need a religion for that, then you are a weakling. Religion is just the other extreme of leftism. Whenever leftism or too much religion take control, countries go bankrupt, have wars, get destroyed and whatnot. Such a great forum, a forum which helped me many years ago, despite being member for some short time, a forum which saved man's asses, all this information...GONE. What a change, what a pathetic change. Yeah, yeah pray to your God or Allah or whatever.
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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
(01-07-2020 08:17 AM)Goni Wrote:  Secondly, I think Roosh, you should have more respect about the thousands of hours and contributions many men have given there.

Countless men have spent thousands of hours there being active and informing about a large deal of stuff. This forum would have not become famous without them.

Every member that contributed got more then enough from the forum in return. Nobody got robbed of anything here.

I understand Roosh's decision, when you are trying to move away from the old habit/vice/lifestyle erasing the traces and tools of the old is a powerful symbolic move. It is not about forgetting the past but making it harder to return to the old ways. Like when you want to quit video games so you give away your Steam library.

The sifference here is that people feel entitled to and feel like they have a part ownership to the content of the forum because they are active on it. I understand the sentiment but it is completely false. It is much easier to get preachy when it's not your name on the banner.

Personally I support this decision simply because after everything that happened the last year I believe that this decision is made under the guidance of the Holy Spirit and not on a personal whim.

Edit: I forgot to comment that the 13th of January in Gregorian calendar is actually the 31st of December in old Julian calendar so I wonder if this was taken into account when choosing when to delete the content?
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RE: Game and Travel subforums will be removed on January 13
Please Roosh, wouldn't it be possible to delay the deadline for maybe 2 weeks, say on the 27th of January?

I don't think we're given enough time to be able to copy all the good and valuable posts and bits that exist there. I'm working all week and already made plans for this weekend. I would really appreciate some more time to be able to go through all the stuff and save some good ones.
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I find it amusing that certain people are quick to judge what others' priorities should be, as if they didn't go through a similar journey/are going through it (looking at you Leonard referring to WIA, considering how much time you spend on here).

There's a post I wrote about not taking this forum seriously because ultimately, it's just a forum. You have a life outside of it.

I would link that post but hey, the parent thread was deleted.

Roosh, thanks for providing a platform and it was great while it lasted.

As for the rest of you guys, see you at STW.
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It's his forum and I'll respect his rules. I'm just dismayed travel is being deleted. I travel a lot for business, and it's been helpful as a general travel guide, particularly on which neighborhoods are a good place to stay, which aren't safe, etc. The tourist guidebooks just don't cover that aspect so well.

Sure, I could download datasheets now, but I don't actually know where I'll be traveling for example in 2 years.

Is anyone planning to write a script to download the entire travel forum and make it available on another forum (read-only)? Assuming Roosh is OK with this of course.
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(01-07-2020 11:31 AM)paninaro Wrote:  Is anyone planning to write a script to download the entire travel forum and make it available on another forum (read-only)? Assuming Roosh is OK with this of course.

Second this, I am not IT savy enough to do this but would love to have this as a resource.
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"One of the lessons that can be learned from this thread -- and from following posters on a forum like this over a longish period of time -- is that men that are passionate and enthusiasts by nature will replace beliefs that they cherish, and imagine to be fundamental, with surprising speed and violence.

Furthermore, men who have undergone this process once never think it can happen again; in their enthusiasm, they feel that their current set of beliefs is permanent, because it has struck them with the force of revelation and seemed to explain and pull together so many phenomena that had appeared disparate and unrelated. They know that they have arrived at their destination, and can now survey the landscape from a vantage point that allows them to see behind mere appearances, and into things as they really are.

But the likelihood is great that for many of these men, the current set of beliefs is far from final, and the process of shedding them almost wholesale and acquiring new ones will be repeated. Indeed, I am convinced that some of the most passionately ideological and doctrine-besotted posters on this forum have another conversion or two in their futures. What had to seemed to go to the very core of one's worldview will be discarded almost overnight, like a spent battery that had once powered some loud device which is no longer in use.

The reason that the conversion process is quite likely to repeat itself is that it is precisely the need for belief of some kind, almost any kind, that drives the process far more than the content of the ideas themselves. These ideas and frameworks, so cherished at the moment of revelation and acceptance, are far more fungible than they seem; they are really the temporizing of intelligent and enthusiastic men who struggle to understand the world in all its complexity, and who know only that the socially condoned and dominant ideology of the time cannot help them. They alight on some pattern, some framework, that seems to impose order on the apparent chaos; they cling to it with great conviction; but as the ideological framework reveals itself, over time, to be a good deal less than adequate, they will eventually discard it in favor of a new one which seems to be more persuasive and meets the needs of the day.

It is precisely because the infallible ideas of today will so often, for enthusiastic and yearning men, become the discarded illusions of tomorrow that it's so important for men to be open to the world as it is, to find a way to engage it with a modest attentiveness that is not entirely blighted and evacuated by any fundamentally reductive ideology. Otherwise, a man will lose the world -- and all because of a set of beliefs and ideas that had seemed to fit well at the time, but that proved far too thin and threadbare a garment to survive the surprisingly long and various journey that life amounts to."
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The quotes because I did not write this. Somebody else did and oh how prophetic it was. Christianity may not be the last stop here.
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Is it possible to download the contents of the forums? Can someone post how?

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(01-07-2020 11:39 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  Is it possible to download the contents of the forums? Can someone post how?

There is, but, it is very tedious with the limited access we have. Hence why I asked Roosh to make the database downloadable.

1. Open the thread you wish to save.
2. Scroll down and click on “View a Printable Version”
3. Right click and save page as a .pdf or as a text document to your desktop.
4. You will need to do this for every page of every thread you wish to save.

If we had the option to show x amount of posts on the printable version we would only need to save one file per thread, instead of doing one per page.

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I'm getting a ton of PMs about archival.

It's archive.io. How have you all not heard of this since it's unofficial policy to always use it when linking MSM articles?
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Fuck it, I'm making lemonade out of these damn lemons.

If anyone wants threads archived, I'll do it for $100 p.h.

That's not how we do things in Russia, comrade.

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(01-07-2020 11:37 AM)spaceman Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 11:31 AM)paninaro Wrote:  Is anyone planning to write a script to download the entire travel forum and make it available on another forum (read-only)? Assuming Roosh is OK with this of course.

Second this, I am not IT savy enough to do this but would love to have this as a resource.

I will give it a shot this weekend.

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