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Do men with high testosterone get rejected ?
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RE: Do men with high testosterone get rejected ?
(02-13-2020 06:01 PM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  I must say that during the years in which I was investing much of my time into hookups : in the years 2013 to 2017, all the girls who fancied me were not on birth control. I believe that birth control somehow makes higher T men not attractive for women.

Oh this is absolutely true. Those birth control pills fuck with their hormones and trick their body into thinking she's pregnant, as such she ends highly favors the stable "provider" types. This has been well established in scientific studies, it even goes so far as to change what kind of scents/pheromones they are attracted to.

I can speak from experience here too given that every non-relationship bang I had was with a girl that was NOT on hormonal contraceptives (or any birth control for that matter).

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RE: Do men with high testosterone get rejected ?
To be fair, a girl I once spent a lot of time with - who was happy to do anything I wanted - openly told me she had no interest in being in a relationship with me. So I think there is something to the theory that the highly dominant guys are not considered relationship material in the way that submissive, nice men are. I really didn’t understand it at the time, and was both surprised and disappointed, since I’d assumed she was doing all that to try and angle for a relationship to begin with.

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(02-15-2020 05:50 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  To be fair, a girl I once spent a lot of time with - who was happy to do anything I wanted - openly told me she had no interest in being in a relationship with me. So I think there is something to the theory that the highly dominant guys are not considered relationship material in the way that submissive, nice men are. I really didn’t understand it at the time, and was both surprised and disappointed, since I’d assumed she was doing all that to try and angle for a relationship to begin with.

There are other factors too. For instance a girl can consider you beta/etc but still be physically attracted enough to you to want to sleep with you despite seeing you as having relationship material. Although I think in some cases this is how people fall into those passionless, codependent "comfort zone" relationships.

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(02-15-2020 09:20 AM)Batman_ Wrote:  
(02-13-2020 06:01 PM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  I must say that during the years in which I was investing much of my time into hookups : in the years 2013 to 2017, all the girls who fancied me were not on birth control. I believe that birth control somehow makes higher T men not attractive for women.

Oh this is absolutely true. Those birth control pills fuck with their hormones and trick their body into thinking she's pregnant, as such she ends highly favors the stable "provider" types. This has been well established in scientific studies, it even goes so far as to change what kind of scents/pheromones they are attracted to.

I can speak from experience here too given that every non-relationship bang I had was with a girl that was NOT on hormonal contraceptives (or any birth control for that matter).

Hormonal contraceptives totally factor in.

Do Contraceptive Pills Affect Attraction?

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"while women are usually attracted to the scent of men who are genetically different from them, women on the Pill are attracted to the scent of men who are more genetically similar. This may be because the Pill fools your body into thinking it’s pregnant, and pregnancy can affect attraction. In discussing the 2008 study, Scientific American hypothesized that while non-pregnant women would be more attracted to genetically dissimilar men (to avoid the possibility of incest and maximize immunity of their offspring,) women on the Pill may be more drawn to genetically similar men because pregnant women seek out family members."

MHC-correlated odour preferences in humans and the use of oral contraceptives

women were attracted to less masculine male faces after going on the pill, while their ratings of the attractiveness of female faces were unaffected. And in couples who first met when the woman was on the pill, the men were less likely to have manly faces than those who met when the woman was off the pill.

Women using the birth control pill prefer men with less masculine faces compared to nonuser

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(01-11-2020 05:57 PM)Rifian -rebel Wrote:  Hi guys,

I am in Belgium. I really do feel that guys with too much testeosterone always get dumped by the girl in their relationships.

I myself always finally got dumped. It's like we get too dominant, too aggressive, we don't bow and want to impose our will because we know we are leading the ship to a right destination. At the same time, we are the most protective and we don't want to loose her as if we were very attached.

The soy boys I know who bow to their women are still with them.

Are today's women rejecting men with high testosterone as relationship partners ?

Maybe they are. It depends on the specific woman and what she considers to be too aggressive, too dominant. I think the perfect balance is to be in between, not a push-over and not a bull shark. I've seen guys being dumped because of their "high testosterone behaviour and mentality" and other men being dumped because of their soft "low testosterone behaviour and mentality". It depends on you and her, but at the same time being a soy boy and bowing to her in every situation and letting people disrespect you is not good either.
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(07-03-1970 12:15 AM)Knowledgeaddict Wrote:  Maybe they are. It depends on the specific woman and what she considers to be too aggressive, too dominant. I think the perfect balance is to be in between, not a push-over and not a bull shark. I've seen guys being dumped because of their "high testosterone behaviour and mentality" and other men being dumped because of their soft "low testosterone behaviour and mentality". It depends on you and her, but at the same time being a soy boy and bowing to her in every situation and letting people disrespect you is not good either.

It all comes down to "do you connect with her emotions"? I've seen soys that can laid from singing their heart out and playing a few guitar notes, and I've lost a few relationships from being a silent wall with a permanent disgust face.
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(03-01-2020 10:57 AM)kazimierzdabrowski Wrote:  
(07-03-1970 12:15 AM)Knowledgeaddict Wrote:  Maybe they are. It depends on the specific woman and what she considers to be too aggressive, too dominant. I think the perfect balance is to be in between, not a push-over and not a bull shark. I've seen guys being dumped because of their "high testosterone behaviour and mentality" and other men being dumped because of their soft "low testosterone behaviour and mentality". It depends on you and her, but at the same time being a soy boy and bowing to her in every situation and letting people disrespect you is not good either.

It all comes down to "do you connect with her emotions"? I've seen soys that can laid from singing their heart out and playing a few guitar notes, and I've lost a few relationships from being a silent wall with a permanent disgust face.

Very good examples mate. The bottom line is, it depends a lot on your personality and her personality. I think being a balanced man is the best policy. Not a full bull shark or a soy boy.
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