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Women overtake men as majority in US workforce
https://www.wsj.com/articles/women-overt...1578670615

Quote:Women held more U.S. jobs than men in December for the first time in nearly a decade, a development that likely reflects the future of the American workforce.

Quote:“The [jobs] report strongly suggests that the labor market dynamics are tilting in the direction of women,” Joe Brusuelas, chief economist at RSM US, said in a note to clients. “We all often look for tangible evidence of change. It is now here in the data and can be used as a benchmark to measure equality and inequality in the labor force and the economy.”

The gap between men and women on payrolls had been narrowing over recent years, reflecting growth in services industries that employ higher numbers of women, such as health care.

“The sectors that are growing, like education and health care, are predominantly women’s employment,” said Ariane Hegewisch, program director of employment and earnings at the Institute for Women’s Policy Research. “Looking at the 21st century, it is really amazing how profound some of the [sex] segregation is in the labor market.”
01-13-2020 11:43 AM
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I guess I'm stating the obvious, but, let's consider the source. So much of what passes as news and stats are simply lies, particularly, the ones that like to celebrate "milestones" for identity groups like women.

Lest we forget that during the course of this closing gap between men and women in the workforce that we have also seen ever more authoritarian policies designed to only elevate women. For instance, in healthcare, there are provisions in many policies, obamacare being one of them, that says you must admit more women into medical school. Meanwhile, human resources, which is a female dominated profession, continues to exert more and more influence over hiring decisions that, again, favor women over men. This being further bolstered by the imposition and introduction of "chief diversity officers".

Regardless of this stat being true or not, its evidence of just how coerced and contrived our civilization is becoming. Elsewhere on Roosh's forum we see just as impressive stats showing how these very same career minded women are suffering greatly as perpetually alone and surrounded by cats, which they pathetically pretend are their own babies. Whenever I hear about women in the workplace and the so called triumphs they're having, I always seem to think about the words that sat above the entry gate to Austerlitz "work will set you free".

After all, power point presentations, dealing with the workplace sociopath(s), an oppressive boss, IBS shit inducing food in great abundance, sitting locked to a PC screen...oh yeah that's a whole lot better and more fulfilling work than raising another human that happens to be you transcended.
01-13-2020 11:59 AM
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Work is not the same thing as wage earners. Many jobs in government, non-profits and even the private sector are "make work" jobs to hire women (and in some cases, minorities) that wouldn't be able to get more difficult jobs on merits alone.

That's not to say that women don't provide some valuable workers to the workforce. They do. There are excellent nurses, teachers, and so forth that are women. But many women in the workforce are not doing the same vital work that men do. They are there because The Beast wants them there instead of taking care of a husband and children at home.

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TBH I think we need to start thinking of how to embrace 'change' rather than trying to fight the tide.

It is important to remember that men tend towards hunting and women gathering. Women really do need that level of material comfort that comes from work. It is not as important to men.

At the end of the day, I dont think there are many societies where men and women do the same type of work day-to-day. Men need to feel like men, and women need their men to be sufficiently differentiated from them to mate with them.

The real question is when will more men wake up and start taking themselves out of the pool. What could be worse for a man than spending 8+ hours a day in mixed workforce, working just like a woman, basically being a woman for 8 hours a day.

I think women could do the 9-5 corporate jobs and men could focus on other types of employment and industries.
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This doesn't have to be bad. Find a sugar mama and let her rot away in an office while you play with the kids, have time to cook lots of interesting meals, and pursue interesting hobbies. These empowered womyn can pay for our boats, golf, vacations, etc. They better act right, or we'll divorce rape them too. Staring at Excel, answering phones, and sitting in a cubicle/traffic sure is a lot more fun than watching your kids grow up.

Or learn a skill that women think they're too good for, so you don't have to put up with any of this nonsense.
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(01-13-2020 03:48 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  This doesn't have to be bad. Find a sugar mama and let her rot away in an office while you play with the kids, have time to cook lots of interesting meals, and pursue interesting hobbies. These empowered womyn can pay for our boats, golf, vacations, etc. They better act right, or we'll divorce rape them too. Staring at Excel, answering phones, and sitting in a cubicle/traffic sure is a lot more fun than watching your kids grow up.

Women (even wymyn) aren't attracted to such men.

But, there are a lot of young men taking the NEET/hikikomori route, living off NEETbux which will increasingly be paid by women taxpayers. That's something, I guess. Not for me, though.
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(01-13-2020 03:48 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  This doesn't have to be bad. Find a sugar mama and let her rot away in an office while you play with the kids, have time to cook lots of interesting meals, and pursue interesting hobbies. These empowered womyn can pay for our boats, golf, vacations, etc. They better act right, or we'll divorce rape them too. Staring at Excel, answering phones, and sitting in a cubicle/traffic sure is a lot more fun than watching your kids grow up.

Or learn a skill that women think they're too good for, so you don't have to put up with any of this nonsense.

Well, I wouldn't get the impression that since women might very slightly and for the moment be of a higher count than men automatically means men have to turn into dependent bitches. For one thing the "jobs" that women are doing, as evidence of the wage gap, are not these high flying jobs that make for a sugar mamma. Matter of fact, most of the jobs today are not of that nature. Moreover, in order to do what a couple of generations ago did with only one person working, i.e. raise a family and even have a small vacation cottage, now takes two wage earners. So, no, men are not off the "hook" to become pathetic leaches of the superior woman. In actuality, both men and women need each other if they want to have any kind of a decent life with a family etc.
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You're taking what I said too seriously. It was more about women not realizing how good they had it.
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The facts behind the headline statistic are far more dire than most coverage in the media addresses. The key is that women aren't beating men out to get the highly skilled, highly productive and high-paying jobs. Women are landing the same shitty jobs they've always stumbled into. The number of high-quality, highly skilled, high paying jobs in which something actually useful is produced for sale, or a useful service is provided, is shrinking. Since China was admitted to the WTO, and maybe since the 1970s, manufacturing in the US has been on the decline. Job growth is now limited to shitty service jobs with low pay, or bullshit jobs in government or quasi-government (education, health care, finance) that produce no real value. Guys are checking out because job opportunities are bleak (especially for the unskilled and low-skilled), and the culture is shit globohomo girl-power white-man-evil. Without the goal and burden of having a wife and kids to raise and support, many would rather play vidya and get drunk or high than drag ass to a cubicle every day to fill out TPS reports. I may start drinking early today.
01-14-2020 10:15 AM
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Women hardest hit.
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(01-14-2020 11:09 AM)Enoch Wrote:  Women hardest hit.

This response makes me think, philosophically, just why everybody makes women out to be victims.

The fact they're too stupid to see what they've wrought about in fighting for this unicorn Equality makes them that much more of a victim to the discerning observants.


"Those poor poor women, they just cannot get their shit together for the better of humanity."

I doubt it. Remember that your lower level, millenial leftist isn't good at critical thinking. They're largely like trained dogs who emote in response to programmed cues like the word "racism" and "socialism". Easy_C

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A lot of these women have accrued huge financial debt, and are now working as glorified secretaries. The underpinning of this article is really about the modern woman's realization that she has been sold an imaginary castle in the sky. She went to college for 7 years, believing she was living out some Hunger Games motif; in reality, it was all a scam.

Now she is not a single mother, chained to a desk, and has no hope of freeing herself from a wage-slave existence. As she drives to work in the morning, the existential crisis is too much for her.

"Women Overtake Men as Slaves in Corporate Cubicle Farms" might be a better title for the article.

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(01-14-2020 12:31 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  A lot of these women have accrued huge financial debt, and are now working as glorified secretaries. The underpinning of this article is really about the modern woman's realization that she has been sold an imaginary castle in the sky. She went to college for 7 years, believing she was living out some Hunger Games motif; in reality, it was all a scam.

Now she is not a single mother, chained to a desk, and has no hope of freeing herself from a wage-slave existence. As she drives to work in the morning, the existential crisis is too much for her.

"Women Overtake Men as Slaves in Corporate Cubicle Farms" might be a better title for the article.

Very well put. I'd add that there are many of these women who have no children at all. That makes them all the more lonely. Its tragic. They'll literally die alone.
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I've seen this whole women overtake men pop up elsewhere in our "sphere" and in other posts on Roosh's forum. I think most get it but I feel compelled to remind everyone on something. Note: I recently hit subscribe to "Better Bachelor" and he did a video on this. Maybe he's here. At first blush BB takes a very MGTOW approach, so, its more like give into the current conditions and deal. Maybe I'm off. But, here is the issue.

I want to be loud and clear here...do NOT underestimate the amount of social engineering that is occurring in our society right now and has been occurring for, sadly, decades.

A headline like women over men in something comes out and it has the potential to bring men down. This community, I think, is here to bring men up and to put such headlines into their appropriate perspective. Because, left alone such as statistic like this cuts our fellow brother down when they shouldn't have to feel all that bad.

It would be one thing if in a purely meritocratic society that women overtook men in the workforce. Yes, that would be depressing. However, we are far from a meritocratic society. Women get a leg up in life. Sometimes that leg is quite big. But as with all competitive environments even a small push can make a huge difference. Men get no pushes or pulls or drags to the finish line. None.

There are no mandates that exist in our society that say you must hire men. Whereas there are several such mandates in every field that say you must hire women. We all know this. That's why we're here. Women complain that life is not fair and to the men here such an utterance provokes vomit. Because a dominance hierarchy is very unfair. This idea that we all waltz into managing director jobs at goldman sachs is so far from reality its insulting...and it is insulting. Everyone of us have and are climbing the mountain of life. Women had the state build them a chairlift to the summit. What is fair about that?

Never forget the true conditions of our society, social engineering favors only women and its systemic. But, if a group of people depend on a helping hand to get them into their position than ultimately they're the lessor ones. And we all know it.
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(01-13-2020 05:47 PM)Towgunner Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 03:48 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  This doesn't have to be bad. Find a sugar mama and let her rot away in an office while you play with the kids, have time to cook lots of interesting meals, and pursue interesting hobbies. These empowered womyn can pay for our boats, golf, vacations, etc. They better act right, or we'll divorce rape them too. Staring at Excel, answering phones, and sitting in a cubicle/traffic sure is a lot more fun than watching your kids grow up.

Or learn a skill that women think they're too good for, so you don't have to put up with any of this nonsense.

Well, I wouldn't get the impression that since women might very slightly and for the moment be of a higher count than men automatically means men have to turn into dependent bitches. For one thing the "jobs" that women are doing, as evidence of the wage gap, are not these high flying jobs that make for a sugar mamma. Matter of fact, most of the jobs today are not of that nature. Moreover, in order to do what a couple of generations ago did with only one person working, i.e. raise a family and even have a small vacation cottage, now takes two wage earners. So, no, men are not off the "hook" to become pathetic leaches of the superior woman. In actuality, both men and women need each other if they want to have any kind of a decent life with a family etc.

Loved your post... but just had to chime in to mention that there's no wage gap... and never was! That faulty statistic never compared jobs in similar fields (ei Male Teacher vs female Teacher) Of course you'll end up with a Wage Gap if you compare a male engineer with a Personal Support Worker, which are predominantly Male & Female respectively.

The same way you'll end up with a spike in rapes... if you change the definition to include "date rape" & "mansplaining"! Huh... just typing these words felt sickening!!!
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At least men still have the workplace death and incarceration market cornered!

The irony is here is that capitalism broke up the gender roles through secular materialism, which has now paved the way for socialist policies which further subsidize the destruction of family units and support single mother families.

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(01-15-2020 07:34 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  Loved your post... but just had to chime in to mention that there's no wage gap... and never was! That faulty statistic never compared jobs in similar fields (ei Male Teacher vs female Teacher) Of course you'll end up with a Wage Gap if you compare a male engineer with a Personal Support Worker, which are predominantly Male & Female respectively.

The same way you'll end up with a spike in rapes... if you change the definition to include "date rape" & "mansplaining"! Huh... just typing these words felt sickening!!!

Not only does it not compare jobs in the same fields, it even doesn't account for overtime or total hours worked. It literally just compared at men's total earnings to women's total earnings, and doesn't factor in the countless other reasons that a "gap" may exist: men work more dangerous jobs, work longer hours, take less time off, are more willing to relocate, etc. Ever wonder why all men are in leadership positions? It's not oppression: women on average are fairly homogeneous and don't vary anywhere near as much at the extremes. On the other hand, men vary significantly at the extremes. The most aggressive person is always male. The most intelligent person is always male. The most industrious person is always male. The most psychotic person is always male. There are significantly more men at the bottom 1% of society than women, this phenomenon of differences in the "extremes" goes both ways. The feminists never seem to realize that the top 1% of men displace the low-tiered men even more than women.

It is one of the single most dishonest and misleading statistic in the feminist narrative and the gap truly means nothing. Google even did a statistic analysis of male and female earnings within the same job roles and actually found that women were paid MORE than their male counterparts. If women were paid less for the same job every company would only hire women because they would save 20% in wages. It's such an absurd notion and I just cannot believe how no analysis has gone into this.

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This means that:

The number of unemployed men > the number of stay at home moms.
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Makes sense. Whenever I'm doing office tours with recruiters I notice a few things:

1) Most recruiters are women. They tend to only recruit members of their own, so forget "gaming" them. It won't work.

2) Most employees are women. If you are not a soyboy who will neatly fall under their thumb, there's little reason to hire you.

Solution: Work in STEM, have an actual skill, work in a predominately male environment. Easier said than done, but it can be done.

Here's an easy litmus test: Did most employees in this company graduate with degrees in History/Art/BS Studies? If so, it's likely to be populated by low-T guys and high-T women. Avoid these, and stick to companies who hire skilled workers.
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I think if future civilizations exist, this among other markers will be a hallmark for a new Dark Age.
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(01-16-2020 01:52 PM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  Solution: Work in STEM, have an actual skill, work in a predominately male environment. Easier said than done, but it can be done.

STEM is perhaps the best of a bad bunch, but it's no paradise. Your team will be mostly if not all men, but you still gotta deal with HR and all sorts of make-work managers. It's still gotta beat other industries, but STEM has been in feminist crosshairs for a while. You can't escape, basically, unless you work for yourself. I'd like to do that, but I'm a much better scientist/programmer than I am an entrepreneur or red-tape-dealer-wither.
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(01-13-2020 11:43 AM)Wutang Wrote:  https://www.wsj.com/articles/women-overt...1578670615

Quote:Women held more U.S. jobs than men in December for the first time in nearly a decade, a development that likely reflects the future of the American workforce.

Quote:“The [jobs] report strongly suggests that the labor market dynamics are tilting in the direction of women,” Joe Brusuelas, chief economist at RSM US, said in a note to clients. “We all often look for tangible evidence of change. It is now here in the data and can be used as a benchmark to measure equality and inequality in the labor force and the economy.”

The gap between men and women on payrolls had been narrowing over recent years, reflecting growth in services industries that employ higher numbers of women, such as health care.

“The sectors that are growing, like education and health care, are predominantly women’s employment,” said Ariane Hegewisch, program director of employment and earnings at the Institute for Women’s Policy Research. “Looking at the 21st century, it is really amazing how profound some of the [sex] segregation is in the labor market.”

This is an absolutely degenerate fact!
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(01-15-2020 09:16 PM)Number one bummer Wrote:  At least men still have the workplace death and incarceration market cornered!

The irony is here is that capitalism broke up the gender roles through secular materialism, which has now paved the way for socialist policies which further subsidize the destruction of family units and support single mother families.

I don't think you can get anymore succinct than that. Hands down best explanation in only a sentence.
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Whitepill:

This is just payroll numbers, it Does Not include contractors, small business owners and other self employed individuals, willing to bet 80% of that cohort are men.

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Despite what some people might think productivity will not collapse in the workplace even as females continue to push out males and the reason is simply technology. More and more things are being automated and replaced due to technology. Employees are becoming less important. Of course females are less productive than males but that trend will be overshadowed by the improvement in productivity caused by technology.
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