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Objective truth can't stop the slide into moral degeneracy. People can selectively choose what objective truths they like while ignoring the wider context all the time. WA gives an example.

(02-19-2020 02:35 AM)wannable alpha Wrote:  ...They will start with saying how adolescence is a recent concept and how in the olden days 13 year olds got married and got pregnant right away.
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This is objectively true. Of course you have to ignore the fact that the legal age of consent was inextricably linked with the concept of adulthood so you didn't have girls sitting their bedroom playing my little pony until their husband came home from the mines and banged her. By that age they'd already spent most of their life playing a very real role in raising their baby brothers and sisters and the boys likewise at that age were expected to be ready to go to war against brigands or the natives or whoever else required shooting.

Nonetheless, someone can still state the "objective truth" that in the past 13 year old girls were routinely married and knocked up.

And as I've pointed out several times now, someone can say the "objective truth" is that everyone in the "black guys gangbang white girl with braces" video is a consenting adult and therefore it should be beyond censorship. The moral truth is that it's child porn with adult actors. Ironically if you filmed it for a crime thriller rather than a porno film then it would probably be banned on the grounds that it was too confronting to depict a 13 year old girl being gang-raped, regardless of whether the actor was an adult. That's how stupid our position on these matters has become because "objective truth" is no defence against any of this stuff.

What if I used deepfake technology to imprint 1990's Macaulay Culkin into a gay porn video with his consent. Nobody has been harmed. No children participated.

You will see these boundaries crossed, and you will have no choice but to take a moral stance that is grounded in nothing more objectively true than your belief in God's existence despite having never seen or touched his manifestation.

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Objective truth has to be grounded in God's commands and character.

re: age of consent, the difference between the olden days and today is that men married these women. There is no Scriptural prohibition or "must be 18" law, and thus consent laws were almost always under 18 when this country was more sane. Two generations ago there were lots of women who married under 18.

There's a huge difference between chastely courting a 15 year old for marriage, a woman whose family you likely knew well and approved of the intention, and today's pattern of grooming strangers for fornication (which is really a form of robbing her future husband). Trying to make these analogous is like equating the death penalty with abortion because both involve a death.
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I agree with everything Athanasius said.

Additionally, porn is bad regardless of how old the girl is. Of course, if the girl is literally prepubescent, then it is 100x worse. But assuming she is post-pubescent, then it is still bad and evil regardless of whether she is 16, 18, or whatever age.

Pursuing a girl for the purpose of fornication is also wrong regardless of the girl's age. You can tell yourself "She is over 18 so it's not wrong. She is an adult who can make her own decisions." But it is still wrong.
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(02-19-2020 02:35 AM)wannable alpha Wrote:  With the exposure of elites getting caught with underage girls, they could start a push to normalize ephebophilia and then pedophilia. They will start with saying how adolescence is a recent concept and how in the olden days 13 year olds got married and got pregnant right away. First step will be decriminalization of sex with underage girls, maybe initially 15-16 and then the age will keep getting lower.

19 states already have an 16 year old age of consent. Low tier countries like Africa have the lowest age of consent, 11 years old. Japan, surprisingly, 'technically' has a 13 year old age of consent.

PixelFree Wrote:FWIW Pornhub is blocked in many Muslim countries.

It's not a hard thing to do if the Government wanted to.
Muslims may have no porn, but they don't have ages of consent for married couples either. You can marry 10 year-olds in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and the others.

The only place that seems normal in this respect is South Korea. No porn and an age of consent of 20. Of course, the no porn thing is easily by-passable. VPN's, anyone?

https://www.ageofconsent.net/highest-and-lowest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_co...ted_States

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(02-18-2020 08:03 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  Classic Japanese Anime used to look like this:

I don't believe that this kind of thing may be a coincidence. This kind of imagery didn't exist in Pre-WWII Japan as far as I know. But after the defeat and occupation of Japan.

Something has gone wrong.

From what I understand, Japanese men often get this single-minded spiritual dedication to what they are doing, just for the sake of doing it. When this happens with some technology or skill, it can be admirable. But when Japanese guys get some sexual fetish, they double down and develop their perversions into a complete subculture. These guys don't care about their tastes being accepted by proper society, since they have a community of like-minded outcast freaks who are just as committed to the "cause" as they are.

Japanese art has been infected with these perverse streaks for at least a couple hundred years. The pedophiliac garbage we see in post-2000s anime is just the metastasized form, as this stuff increasingly takes over pop culture.

If you go to the major national art museums in Tokyo and Kyoto, you'll see that the works start out Buddhist in nature, then start to depict more secular scenes. A genre called ukiyo-e appeared in the 18th century, by which time the focus was increasingly oriented around depicting prostitutes and bathhouses. That's the mainstream, not-too-racy art that can be displayed for the general public. When I was in college, I found some late 19th-century Japanese illustrations in the library's collection that are best described as being literally gorn (i.e. gore and pornography combined).
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(02-19-2020 12:21 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  Objective truth has to be grounded in God's commands and character.

re: age of consent, the difference between the olden days and today is that men married these women. There is no Scriptural prohibition or "must be 18" law, and thus consent laws were almost always under 18 when this country was more sane. Two generations ago there were lots of women who married under 18.

There's a huge difference between chastely courting a 15 year old for marriage, a woman whose family you likely knew well and approved of the intention, and today's pattern of grooming strangers for fornication (which is really a form of robbing her future husband). Trying to make these analogous is like equating the death penalty with abortion because both involve a death.

The reason age of consent and marriage is 18 in most countries is because a girl's body becomes fully developed at age 18. In the good old days, girls from all over the world died in huge numbers cause their still developing bodies could not handle pregnancy as did many babies. A lot of reforms of the last 100 years make perfect sense. I get that we are living in increasing PC-mad and degenerate times, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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(02-20-2020 03:40 AM)wannable alpha Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 12:21 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  Objective truth has to be grounded in God's commands and character.

re: age of consent, the difference between the olden days and today is that men married these women. There is no Scriptural prohibition or "must be 18" law, and thus consent laws were almost always under 18 when this country was more sane. Two generations ago there were lots of women who married under 18.

There's a huge difference between chastely courting a 15 year old for marriage, a woman whose family you likely knew well and approved of the intention, and today's pattern of grooming strangers for fornication (which is really a form of robbing her future husband). Trying to make these analogous is like equating the death penalty with abortion because both involve a death.

The reason age of consent and marriage is 18 in most countries is because a girl's body becomes fully developed at age 18. In the good old days, girls from all over the world died in huge numbers cause their still developing bodies could not handle pregnancy as did many babies. A lot of reforms of the last 100 years make perfect sense. I get that we are living in increasing PC-mad and degenerate times, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Not only that they are also malnourished and have poor health and hygiene to begin with.

Doctors before they were acquainted with hygiene and unaware that their handling of dead bodies spreads germs ensured so many women died in childbirth.

That all adds up to the high-mortality from childbirth even from women in their 20s
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Delayed sexuality is a marker of more civilized and intelligent people which is why the elites are desperately pushing in the other direction.

The sooner a child is pushed into the sexual world the sooner their mind shuts down to higher thought and they see the world only through the sexual lens. The running joke of showing a kid looking at some woman's tits or ass, captioned "and suddenly little Johnny didn't want to play with his legos anymore" is a perfect summation of this form of degenerate mind control. It started popping up routinely after the half time strip show for the superbowl.

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(02-20-2020 05:13 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Delayed sexuality is a marker of more civilized and intelligent people which is why the elites are desperately pushing in the other direction.

The sooner a child is pushed into the sexual world the sooner their mind shuts down to higher thought and they see the world only through the sexual lens. The running joke of showing a kid looking at some woman's tits or ass, captioned "and suddenly little Johnny didn't want to play with his legos anymore" is a perfect summation of this form of degenerate mind control. It started popping up routinely after the half time strip show for the superbowl.

Not only that.

Quote:The study in Human Reproduction, one of the world's leading reproductive medicine journals, found that chemicals such as phthalates, parabens and phenols were all associated with earlier puberty in girls, although there was no similar association observed in boys.

Certain phthalates are used in scented products such as perfumes, deodorants, soaps, shampoo, nail polish and cosmetics; parabens are often used as preservatives in cosmetics and other personal care products; and phenols, which include triclosan and benzophenone-3, are used in soap, toothpaste, lipsticks, hairsprays, shampoos and skin lotion to increase the durability of the products.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-12-c...inked.html

So this trend towards earlier sexuality is unnatural especially due to the chemicals that we use.

Sure good nutrition may play a role. But the chemical manipulation of our environment is insidious.


Combine that with the promotion and promiscuity and one gets the recipe that you are talking about.
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(02-14-2020 12:07 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 11:22 AM)eradicator Wrote:  I don’t get it, but I’m not a lawyer. Pornhub is owned by mindgeek, or (((mindgeek))) if you like.

They are a Canadian company that own porn hub and youporn and other sites.

If a sex trafficking crime happens in Florida, USA and is uploaded onto the net to a site that a Canadian company owns, who exactly is in any sort of position to shut down a foreign company?

Who would file the charges, what would the crime be, and is there any legal precedent to shutting down a website?

I can think of Napster and whatnot, but this is a bit different as it involves user uploaded content, some of the performers are underage, and who exactly is going to police this?

And how is going on Twitter and tweeting “it needs to be shit down!” going to change anything. That is a bit line screaming out my window that a company in Canada should be shut down. Or that the internet should be shut down , who is going to shut down the internet

It's a simply matter for CIA to have front companies registered behind front companies. The "owner" or "CEO" is just a hired worker to the public face. I believe Elon Musk is also such an individual.

Big porn companies have immense broadband-fees or at least they would have if they were not backed by the deep state.

I read some calculations back in the day and they wondered how anyone makes money off porn because the sites certainly don't make it despite spending tens of millions on broadband alone.

It all fits nicely with observations by some who said that back in the 1990s the mainstream media was sure to mention repeatedly how there was soooo much porn on the internet. They did it mostly by being supposedly disgusted about it, but nonetheless mentioned it as if on command very often. That was all by design to get people to start using the internet more.

As for real child-porn - we know that this is the next point on the agenda after the trans-crap. Maybe they add bestiality and necrophilia before intergenerational-sex (the new term), but it will come.
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(02-20-2020 05:25 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(02-20-2020 05:13 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Delayed sexuality is a marker of more civilized and intelligent people which is why the elites are desperately pushing in the other direction.

The sooner a child is pushed into the sexual world the sooner their mind shuts down to higher thought and they see the world only through the sexual lens. The running joke of showing a kid looking at some woman's tits or ass, captioned "and suddenly little Johnny didn't want to play with his legos anymore" is a perfect summation of this form of degenerate mind control. It started popping up routinely after the half time strip show for the superbowl.

Not only that.

Quote:The study in Human Reproduction, one of the world's leading reproductive medicine journals, found that chemicals such as phthalates, parabens and phenols were all associated with earlier puberty in girls, although there was no similar association observed in boys.

Certain phthalates are used in scented products such as perfumes, deodorants, soaps, shampoo, nail polish and cosmetics; parabens are often used as preservatives in cosmetics and other personal care products; and phenols, which include triclosan and benzophenone-3, are used in soap, toothpaste, lipsticks, hairsprays, shampoos and skin lotion to increase the durability of the products.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-12-c...inked.html

So this trend towards earlier sexuality is unnatural especially due to the chemicals that we use.

Sure good nutrition may play a role. But the chemical manipulation of our environment is insidious.


Combine that with the promotion and promiscuity and one gets the recipe that you are talking about.

What we know that influences early-onset puberty:

+ certain chemicals that impact the hormone household - a lot out there
+ single motherhood (proven by statistical observations)
+ promotion of promiscuity and sexual activity before full maturity - that includes also the promotion of porn
+ sexual pre-puberty abuse
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I have never been on Pornhub. I am on Fetlife, where pornos are often uploaded. Fetlife does absolutely, positively nothing to verify age. I have seen accounts supposedly owned by 18-year-old girls, yet the accounts are also over a year old.

If a site has no system for age verification, then I can guarantee there will be kids who are under 18 on it. Making users check box which says,"I verify I am over 18...." isn't worth a shit. A credit card is one of the better ways to verify, but nothing is perfect.
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Fetlife was always kinda confusing to me, very web 1.0 with the different groups and stuff, and seemed like a lot of either models looking for simps or very needy princess types who want to dommed exactly like they want. I'm sure it can be used to good effect, though.
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Just the word 'porn' alone is a pysop. Call it for what it is, "whore videos." They are just whores and the people who watch whores are whoremongers. The word is just to sanitize what is obviously a bunch of disgusting whores. Bring back Biblical language, and people will start to feel shame again.

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^^^ I got a feelin whorehub.com already exists, and does just fine.

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Whorehub exists.

That's not how we do things in Russia, comrade.

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The word "pornography" actually comes from the Greek word for "prostitute."
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Porneia

One former whore I saw on Youtube said that most of the money to run these free aggregator sites like Pornhub comes from referrals. If you click through the free video and sign up on the subscription site that uploaded the video, then the aggregator gets a referral payment (and sometimes the aggregator and the subscription site are the same company in Mindgeek's case).

So basically the 1% or whatever of people who buy subscriptions are the underpinning of the whole enterprise. This seems inadequate to fund what must be astronomical bandwidth costs though. EMJ and others have posited that these companies are funded by deep state and other entities, but is there any proof of this, or is it just suspicion?
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I still find it hard to believe that anyone would _pay_ for porn ?
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Middle to upper class male bachelors have way more money than they need so tossing thirty bucks at a porn vendor for premium service is really nothing to them at all.

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Yes, but how can "infinite free porn" be made "premium"? You enjoy the exact same product both before and after you pay. It's not even convenience like with Netflix, where subscribing saves from struggling with torrents and subtitles - with porn it's all freely and easily available anyway.

I also think that people who pay for porn have a serious psychological disorder (on top of porn addiction itself). A masochistic streak of sorts.

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The sellers have to be offering some kind of exclusivity. The tribe is not going to step on each other's toes too much by robbing content and then offering it for free.

But there is definitely some psychological disorders in play. The phenomenon of paypigs is real, though that's a bit different since there's a sense of interaction involved.

But like I said, these guys have tons of expendable income so even if they only get access to a small amount of exclusive content then they don't really care about the money.

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(02-23-2020 06:16 AM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  I still find it hard to believe that anyone would _pay_ for porn ?

Whats more hard to believe is how acceptable porn and sex work in general have become.
It used to be a shameful kink to watch porn, now everyone proudly proclaims it like it was their hobby. What the hell happened?
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(02-23-2020 07:37 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  ...
Whats more hard to believe is how acceptable porn and sex work in general have become...

This is a bit off topic but related to your point about how porn and "sex work" are acceptable nowadays.

Does anyone find it interesting how rich and famous men almost exclusively marry women who are professional models (i.e. women who get paid to pose in ultra-revealing clothes for the world to see)?

I remember after the 2016 election leftists pointed out how Trump's wife is the only first lady in history to have posed nude for a magazine. Of course, the leftists are complete hypocrites for pointing this out, but they do have a point.

Not to mention, these rich and famous men could probably find women to marry who are just as attractive but are not professional models, but they choose the models anyway. I feel like they view having a supermodel wife as a status symbol, similar to owning a Rolex or a fancy sports car.

It seems like, for these men, it is more about having a wife they can show off to others rather than having a deep, genuine connection with a woman.

In the past, I feel like marrying a woman who gets paid to pose nude (or scantily clad) would be seen as one step above marrying a prostitute. These days, it is seen as the best a man can possibly get.

This goes hand-in-hand with porn culture because it is the normalization of valuing women purely for their sex appeal and not for their virtue or the genuine connection you can have with them.
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