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The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
Assuming Trump wins in 2020, what happens in 2024 and beyond?

This is a common discussion in the gym with the bro's and everyone's predictions/outlook are a little bit different.

Are Democratic socialists the future?

Gen X and Millenials will be running the world. What happens in a nutshell?

What happens to the Republican Party? Do Trump's kids make a run for President? Does Mike Pence? Or does a true shitlord come out of nowhere and really turn things upside down?

Is there any reversal of the current demographic trend in America?

Do more and more people wake up to (((their))) lies and say enough is enough and start to really see how programmed they are?

Does America become a full-on socialist country? Does it go the way of the former Soviet Union? Or is the country broken up and ethno-states are formed?

Want to hear what everyone thinks. Have at it.....
02-21-2020 03:08 PM
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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
I'm not a republican so I don't give a shit about that party. While I know what they're saying, it bothers me hearing Ann Coulter and others saying stuff like "we're never going to have another Republican president!" because of immigration, like the tragedy of all this is that a party that's never given a shit about me is going to go away.

But of course they're not going to go away, they'll just move further left and further globohomo as they have been. The dem debates you're seeing now will be the republican debates of 2024. Michael Bloomberg could easily get the nomination in the republican party of 2024 - anti-gun, pro-illegal, pro-corporate, and disavowing of everything he said did and believed up until five minutes ago. That is the GOP in a nutshell.

The only way things are turning around is by collapse. Your job is to prepare for that - you need to get your family AND YOUR COMMUNITY together. You can not do this alone, you need to be surrounded by hardworking people who share your values and you need to be in communication with other such communities throughout the world. There will be the immediate, prepper-level concerns (defending your community, feeding yourselves, etc), but there will also be the longer-term needs (staying sane, rebuilding institutions, engaging in trade) that preppers often don't think about. It's not enough to survive, you need to thrive in the new world. Living in a "bunker" isn't going to cut it long-term.

Anyways, to answer your question, I think balkanization is coming, after a period of unrest. I think the collapse has already started and is happening in slow (but not that slow) motion, but it'll really pop by the end of the decade. If Sanders gets elected probably a little sooner, since he's not going to get most of his shit done which will make his followers go nuts and what he does get done will further tank the prospects of the bulk of Americans and we might actually start seeing proper food shortages and infrastructure breakdown.

I don't think this is avoidable. All you can do is rally as many people as you can in the time between now and then, help each other get set up, and live a lifestyle that will be resilient.
02-21-2020 03:38 PM
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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
Maybe we could avoid total collapse through a peaceful separation/balkanization, which I view as the only solution at this point. If its not done peacefully, it will come after war.

I wonder how long its going to take for this to become a serious discussion. Obviously a presidential candidate can't run on "the country needs to amicably split for the good of all of us and I'll get it done", but we need an influencial figure or group to come forward at some point with this goal.
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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
A populist Republican can steal voters from the Dem base. Tucker could easily win in 2024, he's much better than Trump and has a lot of independent/crossover appeal.

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02-21-2020 04:53 PM
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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
Ocasio-Cortez Builds Progressive Campaign Arm to Challenge Democrats
Ms. Ocasio-Cortez endorsed a slate of progressive challengers to Democratic candidates and incumbents, working to create a liberal counterweight to the party’s official campaign arm.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/us/po...crats.html

Country is sliding further to the left. The New Justice Democrats use AOC as their public face to spread their ideology. On the other side the Trumpers and former Tea Party supporters will continue to push for more nationalism, isolationism, and realpolitik foreign policy.

Interesting times indeed.
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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
This is why democracy doesn't work (especially when it is universal suffrage democracy).

As long as we have universal suffrage democracy, we can elect all the Trumps we want, the leftists will always be 4-8 years from taking power back.

Under universal suffrage democracy, we will always have mob rule, and only those who are good at manipulating the mob will rise to power.
02-21-2020 05:15 PM
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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
In the long term, the smartest move a person can make, and I mean move in the literal sense, is to relocate to a region that fits your desired ethnicity + religion + politics.

Ethnicity + Religion + Politics = Safety/Happiness/Sustainability, etc...

If my entire local region is predominantly Caucasion, Christian and Conservative/Constitutionalist, I’m going to be feeling pretty dang cozy regardless whether or not the rest of the world goes down the globohomi pooper.
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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
This is a result of things getting increasingly worse for the average American: healthcare, college, endless war, fewer/narrower career paths. As a result, socialism/social democracy looks more appealing.

The NPC bases of both the Dems and the Reps is herded into the left-right hegelian dialectic and led to believe that all the problems stem from the other side, when in fact there is virtually no difference between the Dem and Rep establishments. But when a well-spoken anti-establishment populist points out what the real problems are, that message will resonate with a winning majority of the voters.

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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
Kanye on the GOP ticket and Cardi B for the dems.

You heard it here first.

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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
(02-21-2020 04:53 PM)911 Wrote:  A populist Republican can steal voters from the Dem base. Tucker could easily win in 2024, he's much better than Trump and has a lot of independent/crossover appeal.

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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
(02-21-2020 05:30 PM)Kona Wrote:  Kanye on the GOP ticket and Cardi B for the dems.

You heard it here first.

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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
(02-21-2020 04:53 PM)911 Wrote:  A populist Republican can steal voters from the Dem base. Tucker could easily win in 2024, he's much better than Trump and has a lot of independent/crossover appeal.

Populism and playing the left's identity politics.

Cater to White Identity politics...


Unfortunately losing the Silent generation and a large chunk of Boomers (voting trends) with Millennial being the largest living generation

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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
(02-21-2020 05:30 PM)Kona Wrote:  Kanye on the GOP ticket and Cardi B for the dems.

I've been floating the idea of Kanye as the GOP nominee, actually.

I think Cardi B has been supplanted by Lizzo as far as modern wahman heroine of the cat lady contingent.
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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
(02-21-2020 04:53 PM)911 Wrote:  A populist Republican can steal voters from the Dem base. Tucker could easily win in 2024, he's much better than Trump and has a lot of independent/crossover appeal.

I've said Trump was a breather, but look how important that breather is --- if you do not at least consider that something like what 911 puts forward here is a real possibility, even at longer but decent odds, you are just being a hack. It could easily turn out this way, which is why all the backstabbing and complaints on Trump are so stupid.
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(02-21-2020 06:01 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  
(02-21-2020 05:30 PM)Kona Wrote:  Kanye on the GOP ticket and Cardi B for the dems.

You heard it here first.

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If Kayne wins the FL's signature issue will be problem gag reflexes

Debate will be replaced with Rap Battle with Dis' thrown left and right.

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Of course this country will be socialist in the future.

In 15 years, Americans will be a minority in their own country.

The most a man can hope for is to buy a plot of land, have a loving wife, some power tools, an offset smoker, and a dog.

If you've spent the past 10 years bitching on the internet, instead of planning for this, don't expect life to be favorable to you.
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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
(02-21-2020 04:53 PM)911 Wrote:  A populist Republican can steal voters from the Dem base. Tucker could easily win in 2024, he's much better than Trump and has a lot of independent/crossover appeal.

Disturbingly that's a best case scenario which is to say it's not a path to recovery but merely more stalling tactics. I credited Trump with being cut-throat enough to put the pedo-elites to the sword and he seemed to have the Machiavellian streak required to get the job done but for whatever reason he chose not to.

Tucker does not have that streak and at best he would be a series of speedbumps for the elites to negotiate their way across. At worst he will be for heritage Americans what Trump is now. A false hope that whittles away precious time while the demographic war is silently lost.

The future of America is either Balkanisation or Brazilification. IIMT mentioned in another thread that the nation will be imploded at the time the elites find it convenient and I agree with his analysis on that, black swan events aside. Therefore any move by heritage Americans that upsets the status quo will be to their advantage, no matter how ugly.

Having said that, Silicon Valley now has the eyeballs of nearly 90% of the population locked down so I credit minimal chances of a secessionist movement getting off the ground.

The elites seemed to be priming China as the next target for the their nesting. If they can get that project back on schedule then I think America will be dumped between 2030 and 2040. If another location has to be chosen then the timeline will look more like 2040 to 2050. Pressure relief valves like Trump will be provided in order to keep what little is left of Heritage America from kicking off.

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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
1) people will become more disillusioned with the medical and pharma industries. With rising costs and worse health outcomes, individuals will either desire a universal solution or opt out of medical care altogether.

2) Different states and parts of the country will polarize. Different groups and communities will congregate in these polarized areas. Some states and cities will encourage family formation and limit degeneracy. Others will become “fun” places to spend your twenties.

3) war will become less palatable for all Americans. Everyone is wising up to random attacks on American soil dragging our country into foreign wars. It will take a massive act of aggression for Americans to want to go to war again... at least for a while. Getting into another war anytime soon may actually cause a revolt

In the long run, religious communities and the families win. As these communities grow in size and influence they will also gain political power. A good example of this are the Somalis in Minneapolis Minnesota whom elected one of their own to the house in 2018.

Things may look dicey in the short term but everything will eventually work itself out. People with the right idea are more inclined to procreate and pass on their wisdom. Good will win out in the end.
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Socialism is dead. You need something to socialise if you are going to play that game. All Western countries are at the point that if you up a socialist gear then you will instantly go into recession.

Currently the bulk of The Democratic Party will put the breaks on a Sanders, who is himself useless. By the time The Democratic Party might become full of socialists there will be no room for it. Democratic socialism is an oxymoron, as socialism is so economically destructive it can only last one term in office.

Trump vs. Bernie would be good. As we will watch as many of the same elites who said 'orange man bad' are forced to back Trump and push hysteria about Bernie's gulags. The fake news have destroyed themselves in the eyes of Republicans over the last five years. Trump vs. Bernie allows them to do the same with Democrats.

Beyond this I don't know. Five years ago people wouldn't be able to fathom where we are now. There will be some curveballs to come yet.

But the left is screwed, because of their exceedingly low birth-rates; and political ideas are largely inherited. It's just a question of how much damage they do until they destroy themselves.
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Democratic socialists take power, but there is enough resistance to support an American version of a Pinochet type figure, who then flips the tables.

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(02-21-2020 05:59 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  
(02-21-2020 04:53 PM)911 Wrote:  A populist Republican can steal voters from the Dem base. Tucker could easily win in 2024, he's much better than Trump and has a lot of independent/crossover appeal.

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Tucker Carlson was once accused of unspeakable acts (I won't write what he was actually accused of so that this thread won't come up in a Google search). The woman who accused him was literally crazy and obsessed with him, and she later admitted she had never met him and that she made the whole thing up. She even sent him letters apologizing.

If Carlson ever runs for president, I bet you anything that those "allegations" will get dragged up and they will pay this crazy woman as much money as she wants in order to claim that Carlson actually did these terrible things.
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(02-21-2020 03:38 PM)kel Wrote:  I'm not a republican so I don't give a shit about that party. While I know what they're saying, it bothers me hearing Ann Coulter and others saying stuff like "we're never going to have another Republican president!" because of immigration, like the tragedy of all this is that a party that's never given a shit about me is going to go away.

But of course they're not going to go away, they'll just move further left and further globohomo as they have been. The dem debates you're seeing now will be the republican debates of 2024. Michael Bloomberg could easily get the nomination in the republican party of 2024 - anti-gun, pro-illegal, pro-corporate, and disavowing of everything he said did and believed up until five minutes ago. That is the GOP in a nutshell.

The only way things are turning around is by collapse. Your job is to prepare for that - you need to get your family AND YOUR COMMUNITY together. You can not do this alone, you need to be surrounded by hardworking people who share your values and you need to be in communication with other such communities throughout the world. There will be the immediate, prepper-level concerns (defending your community, feeding yourselves, etc), but there will also be the longer-term needs (staying sane, rebuilding institutions, engaging in trade) that preppers often don't think about. It's not enough to survive, you need to thrive in the new world. Living in a "bunker" isn't going to cut it long-term.

Anyways, to answer your question, I think balkanization is coming, after a period of unrest. I think the collapse has already started and is happening in slow (but not that slow) motion, but it'll really pop by the end of the decade. If Sanders gets elected probably a little sooner, since he's not going to get most of his shit done which will make his followers go nuts and what he does get done will further tank the prospects of the bulk of Americans and we might actually start seeing proper food shortages and infrastructure breakdown.

I don't think this is avoidable. All you can do is rally as many people as you can in the time between now and then, help each other get set up, and live a lifestyle that will be resilient.

We're already in the collapse.

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This already happened in the uk. The “conservative” and labour parties are the two biggest parties but both are full of open borders cucks.

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RE: The 2024 election and beyond: What's in store for America?
Forget the 4-year election timelines, that is no indicator of exact events.

War is coming, its just a matter of when the media and the financial institutions lose control on the current shitshow. When the food trucks stop delivering, and the power companies shut off power, area by area will self-segregate and altercations in neighborhoods will be very common. This is the ideal method as it allows people to go to their respective tribes and communities without much bloodshed. Though the large urban fests where rich self-appointed-elitists live lording over the seas of mystery meat, gangs, fellow lower-ranking white liberal cuck drones, and the few pockets of resistance from based ethnicity denizens, trigger-happy jackbooted cops, and unapologetic whites, will all be ripe for violence. It will suck for those who live in the north where you only get a few months of weather that doesn't kill you if you're outside for extended periods of time. If the balkanization occurs, I expect the regions not under globohomo control will definitely be under globohomo assault. Globohomo must become mainstream so people can understand what it is that is attacking them. As for the nature of these events:

The current system will not be destroyed because of its inefficiencies, but because it is inevitable that it be destroyed. It's Hegelian dialectics, not personal animosity. The pre-war government of America (aka the current clown troupe) has all the problems of the Roman Republic, extreme bureaucracy, corruption, extensive senatorial infighting. Just as with the ancient Republic, it is natural that a military force should conquer and transform the US into a military dictatorship. Thesis and antithesis. The collapse is our Rubicon. The treacherous first world governments will be eradicated, and the parasites will be revealed in full, but the new synthesis will change the survivors as well...

Save the apocalyptic visions, I get them from time to time, but I don't think we're all going to get off as easily with the antichrist's 42 months of unbearable suffering and genocide in this lifetime before He comes back and straightens every ill. We are all going to be in it for the long run, our descendants as well. If I'm wrong, then God have mercy on me, but I'm planning for the long-term, and how to better steer the survivors back onto a path that is closer to God.

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