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Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
There’s a thread on here about red pilling family members but I want to pose the question of, if it’s worth it to spread dissident and red pilling content and have it be attached to your name, as well as presenting some pros and cons that I can think of.
I recently watched Mark Colletts video on YT and it’s... disturbing, to say the least and as much as I want to share that and other suppressed content to friends in person or on my personal Facebook, I’m extremely hesitant.
Spreading that type of information like Mark Collet or Vdare or AmRen or even Roosh’s articles on here or an anonymous twitter handle in the right wing circles is one thing (because they/we can handle it) but spreading it to your family and friends is a completely different beast. I want to contribute what I can to the movement and as of right now we live in the age of information and would certainly be someone like Greg Johnson of Counter Currents preferred method, but is it worth it vs keeping quiet and helping where you can.

Some pros:
1. The information is injected into the public square and exposed to people who’ve been gate kept from it.
2. This movement as a grassroots movement grows
3. It’s really the only way to build this movement, which is word of mouth
4. Potentially gaining personal allies and friends who could be very thankful someone showed them something they otherwise would never have seen
5. People seeing you have the balls to post information that’s controversial can be comforting and confirm what they have noticed and believe and will take a harder more moral stance

Cons:
1. You could lose family and friends, whether it be anti Feminist or anti immigration content and everything in between, if someone you know is of that demographic they probably won’t want anything to do with you
2. Current and future employers will be able to see if your against “diversity” or multiculturalism or what have you and won’t want that attached to their brand or name, which is understandable to certain degree and could cost you a job
3. Looking at it from a normy perspective it could be seen as completely out of left field and very jarring to those who have never seen these perspectives or statistics
4. You’ll inevitably be labeled: racist, Nazi, homophobe, misogynist etc... and we all know what that entails
5. You get permanently blocked and shut down. Never being able to enter the public square again

I’m curious what you’re guys take is on this. I’d rather make sound, well thought out and tactful decisions on presenting these ideas to others, rather than rashly and crudely copy and pasting a drag queen story hour video to my Facebook and being just another political pleb looking for a reaction.

In closing I’ll leave this quote from Julius Evola
“Neither pleasure nor pain should enter as motives when one must do what must be done.”
03-13-2020 12:27 PM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
It's tiresome, but it can yield some good results. I've been (trying) redpilling some people in my circle and most of them showed to be at least open to discussion and absorption of the content. I've managed to redpill my girlfriend in lots of subjects. Also, a friend in special started from total mockery to believing and semi mocking. Soon he will be seriously redpilled.
03-13-2020 03:55 PM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
Yes it's worth it, but also you need to be smart about it. That means only giving people as much as they can handle at a time - you can't go all in, you need to do two steps forward and then one step back to acclimate them and repeat gently over time - and you have to recognize a lost cause when you see it to avoid wasting your very limited time and effort.

You won't get everyone where you want them to be, and many people are simply beyond any hope. But, those you do reach (in some capacity) are very valuable allies. There's nothing like network effects.
03-13-2020 04:36 PM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
(03-13-2020 03:55 PM)Gusamaso Wrote:  It's tiresome, but it can yield some good results. I've been (trying) redpilling some people in my circle and most of them showed to be at least open to discussion and absorption of the content. I've managed to redpill my girlfriend in lots of subjects. Also, a friend in special started from total mockery to believing and semi mocking. Soon he will be seriously redpilled.

Why do you have a girlfriend who is not completely red-pilled, I know you won't take my advice, but get rid of her.
03-13-2020 04:51 PM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
I personally converted at least a dozen bernie supporters to vote for trump last election.

Dont be scared to be a dissident. If it loses you friends they werent friends worth having to begin with.
03-13-2020 05:59 PM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
A better approach is to police your social group and actively eliminate the hopelessly blue pilled.

Eliminate those low T men whom Vox Day would call gammas and any women with sympathy for social justice.

You don’t need those people in your life for a lot of reasons.
03-13-2020 08:01 PM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
Depends on your pain tolerance for being mocked and ostracized. If you can handle it then your soul won’t let you do otherwise. If you can’t then it will just end up worse for you and the people you’re speaking with.

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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
(03-13-2020 04:36 PM)kel Wrote:  Yes it's worth it, but also you need to be smart about it. That means only giving people as much as they can handle at a time - you can't go all in, you need to do two steps forward and then one step back to acclimate them and repeat gently over time - and you have to recognize a lost cause when you see it to avoid wasting your very limited time and effort.

You won't get everyone where you want them to be, and many people are simply beyond any hope. But, those you do reach (in some capacity) are very valuable allies. There's nothing like network effects.

My grandfather has opened up to the America 1st mentality that nick fuentes puts in. I'll have to hand it to the young influencer, he makes redpilling a lot easier. I wish i could have adapted his tactics into my own

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03-14-2020 02:19 AM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
It's good that it's working for you.

I see a lot of people frustrated by the psychological barriers their parents or grand parents seem to have, and frankly I advise them to be reasonable and focus on the most important and effective things. Someone who's spent seven decades being steeped in the mythology of modern globohomo isn't going to be able to suddenly swallow the whole red pill, and (speaking honestly, not disrespectfully) they probably aren't that much longer for the world anyways, so pick your battles. Get them to understand that they need to be working, actively, to better the prospects their grandchildren have, for instance, and that (without casting blame on them, even though they do bear the responsibility) over the past several decades culture has been doing the precise opposite of that. Call them to duty to work on the relatively uncontroversial things they can handle. Them dying not having accepted just how much of the historical mythology their lives were founded upon is absolute bullshit or just how naive they were throughout their lives is okay. Let the boomers have their dumb muh-freedom-and-woodstock LARP if it keeps their cognitive dissonance from shutting down your call for them to man up and take more important, practical steps now.
03-14-2020 04:25 PM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
I've been able to make some boomer relatives flip by showing them John Mark videos.

In general my answer to the question would be "no".

Buy, Read, and utilize the book 48 Laws of Power. That means that when people you have influence you puff them. You lie. You hide your power levels. You flatter. You curry favor and show yourself to be a reliable conformist. Then as soon as you get power you immediately show your true colors and politically blitzkrieg your opponents.

This means if you're redpill in a business job....you play along. You talk about diversity, and raising awareness, and inclusion. Then the moment you get control you immediately clean house and purge every SJW, replacing them with people you know to be reliable.


That's also why I'm saying we need to do a much better job of networking. If I ever do have some kind of management capacity I intend to immediately start stacking my department full of people I know to be redpill from both here and other places.
03-14-2020 05:14 PM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
(03-14-2020 05:14 PM)Easy_C Wrote:   That's also why I'm saying we need to do a much better job of networking. If I ever do have some kind of management capacity I intend to immediately start stacking my department full of people I know to be redpill from both here and other places.

Good both ways - you get better workers, and you get to put money in the hands of good people. I go out of my way to support local businesses run by honest people (I don't buy much besides food, so in practice that means local farms). Economic solidarity is crucial.
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
(03-14-2020 05:14 PM)Easy_C Wrote:   Buy, Read, and utilize the book 48 Laws of Power. That means that when people have influence you puff them.

Quite right. What a wonderful observation. Couldn't have put it better myself. How do you do it? You're amazing. Everyone give it up for Easy_C.

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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
It is not worth it at all.

Do not post anything on social media that will mess with your ability to network and get employment, especially if it has the potential to get you labelled as a "nazi" or "racist".

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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
(03-14-2020 08:08 PM)y2k Wrote:  It is not worth it at all.

Do not post anything on social media that will mess with your ability to network and get employment, especially if it has the potential to get you labelled as a "nazi" or "racist".

This attitude actually aligns perfectly with the enemy of humanities goals. Fear and compliance.

How does one win a war by surrendering or hiding indefinitely? Be smart, be creative, find a way, but don't give up. "Evil prevails when good men do nothing"
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
(03-15-2020 06:06 AM)Sword and Board Wrote:  
(03-14-2020 08:08 PM)y2k Wrote:  It is not worth it at all.

Do not post anything on social media that will mess with your ability to network and get employment, especially if it has the potential to get you labelled as a "nazi" or "racist".

This attitude actually aligns perfectly with the enemy of humanities goals. Fear and compliance.

How does one win a war by surrendering or hiding indefinitely? Be smart, be creative, find a way, but don't give up. "Evil prevails when good men do nothing"


Then do as they do, not what they say to do. Hence my earlier advice.
03-15-2020 12:37 PM
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
No, most people are not ready or mentally or physically prepared to exit the matrix.

Tried to red-pill anyone on Corona? Doesn't usually work.

Denying the reality you've come to accept destroys your ego and your illusions. Far more convenient to have a flawed worldview/ ideology, than to accept the world is a freaking dangerous place.

The systems of control have been in place for years, and even for someone that wants the red-pill, it's not like you suddenly self-actualize after starting to see the cracks in the system. It is a years long painful process.

To project what you've learned onto other people only causes them to distance themselves from you because you're no longer normal, or saying things that are completely uncalibrated (in their eyes).

The only thing that snaps people out of it is repressive government behavior, frequent lying from the state, and dare I say it, fatalities attributable to the virus.
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
Based on personal experience, spreading red pill information to most people is usually a terrible idea. Most men are huge simps, and most white men have been brainwashed to hate themselves. I would only talk about stuff like this to people that you can really trust, like a brother, good friend, etc.

Maybe spread a little red pills here and there to people that aren't completely gone. If they become more open minded, then maybe go even further. But you really have to be careful, especially if your livelihood could be involved.

Generally your best bet is to lead by example. Even then, most people are crabs in a bucket and will get jealous instead of trying to change their ways.
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
Mostly - no.
Example - relationships with women.
Man who don't have huge experience with women, simply can't understand and accept many of red pill truths. When they look at physically attractive women, they see just one thing -"beauty ". And nature gives them a command- to push the " like" button to her daily picture.
And you can tell them red pill stories- they will think, that you are full of hate, and just had a bad experience.

As Roosh mentioned in his last video- do they see real intentions of some of those women ( who attended one specific event)?
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
Recently tried to introduce a buddy of mine, a southern, blue collar and die trump supporter to Keith Woods who is in my opinion one of the most intelligent guys on the right. Needless to say it pissed him off. Especially when Keith called out Ben Shapiro and JLP. TDS is certainly a problem but some of these guys think Trump is the second coming and are so stuck on the paradigm of socialism vs capitalism that, even if you present demographic voting patterns and the trajectory of the US, they still won’t get it and believe the Republican Party will save them. Sigh
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The turning point for those morons will be when Texas flips.
03-16-2020 03:24 PM
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You can't help someone who doesn't ask for help. Save your breath.

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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
I find that it is not worth it.

Telling people what they want, even to their own demise, is the easiest thing to do. After many years of trying, I realized that I better save my energies to more productive things, that benefit me and my truly close friends and loved ones.

People in my larger social circle have not believed me when I told them to sell off their stocks, and wait for the market to bottom out. I was met with a raised eyebrow, when I told my colleagues that I am stocked up for many weeks worth of food and essential supplies. The same happened when I told my opinion about COVID-19, that it was not just a flu. There is no saving the average normie conformie sheeple.

Let them burn.
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RE: Is spreading dissident and red pill information worth it?
(03-16-2020 04:30 PM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  After many years of trying, I realized that I better save my energies to more productive things, that benefit me and my truly close friends and loved ones.

Waking others up, to whatever extent you can, does benefit you and your loved ones. You can take an entirely selfish approach to this issue and still come away with the fact that you need to be waking up as many people as you can to whatever extent you can.
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