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I just registered on some English teaching forums but have to wait for confirmation. If anyone has any questions they want me to ask, let me know. I'll ask about no degree and the background check for visas.
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(03-25-2013 01:06 AM)houston Wrote:  I just registered on some English teaching forums but have to wait for confirmation. If anyone has any questions they want me to ask, let me know. I'll ask about no degree and the background check for visas.

I think those questions are going to vary country to country though.
03-25-2013 01:14 AM
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(03-25-2013 01:14 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  
(03-25-2013 01:06 AM)houston Wrote:  I just registered on some English teaching forums but have to wait for confirmation. If anyone has any questions they want me to ask, let me know. I'll ask about no degree and the background check for visas.

I think those questions are going to vary country to country though.
I'm going to ask which countries will let you work with no degree. Then ask about the background visa check with those.
03-25-2013 01:22 AM
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You thinking about making a move Houston?

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(03-25-2013 01:22 AM)houston Wrote:  
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(03-25-2013 01:06 AM)houston Wrote:  I just registered on some English teaching forums but have to wait for confirmation. If anyone has any questions they want me to ask, let me know. I'll ask about no degree and the background check for visas.

I think those questions are going to vary country to country though.
I'm going to ask which countries will let you work with no degree. Then ask about the background visa check with those.

For what it's worth:The-6-Best-Countries-to-Teach-English-Without-a-College-Degree: http://www.internationalteflacademy.com/...ege-Degree

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Interesting link PresidentCarter!
And the countries listed are all prime pussy destinations (save maybe Argentina and Spain as far as easyiness is concerned). China, Russia and Costa Rica seem the most attractive to me, not only regarding lifestyle, girls but also biz opportunities and networking opportunities, specially in China and Russia.

Where and when are you going to make a move Houston? If you do go ahead, would be cool if you started a blog about your experiences there!

Suerte amigo!
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I'm most likely pushing off for Moscow in July to teach English. Aside from a bomb ass corporate job or a location independent gig/income source, I cannot think of a better way to see the world or to set up shop in a country of your choosing to study their language, culture, girls, etc.

There's money to be made in some countries, but it takes a few years to ramp it up to something significant.

Talk about a life-changer.

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I don't know how accurate this is but check it out. It looks like a degree is preferred in a lot of places but not required. I wonder how hard it is to actually get in the door with those countries?
http://www.internationalteflacademy.com/...ching-jobs
03-25-2013 05:38 PM
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I'm not trying to place the race card but one thing I've noticed on english teachers in international schools is that they are always tall and blonde gringos. This is because a parent will trust more the english skills an all-american teacher than one from another ethnicity. Just my 2 centimos.
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I worked in Manaus, and it was the perfect fit for me. I got my visa before going to Brazil, although I only got it a few days before I was scheduled to start classes. I found a program online that places gringos without teaching experience in schools in Brazil. There are some limitations to the program, but for me the positives more than outweighed the negatives. I applied around this time of year to start teaching in August.

I broke even each month. If I wanted to do something else, such as a trip to the jungle or to Rio, I used my savings to cover that. I had the opportunity to teach some students in private lessons, but I didn't do too much of that. I had other priorities. Hump

I don't know what would disqualify someone from a visa. I only have some traffic citations. The hold up was waiting for some document to arrive from Brazil. Also, when I arrived in Brazil, my school tried to screw me by having me work 6 days a week. I negotiated them down to 4 days. Those negotiations were tense though. Be prepared for stuff like that. Also my school paid me on time, but that's not always a given. There are many advantages to living in Brazil, but be prepared for some really annoying shit too.

PM me for more details.
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would I be a more attractive candidate because I am a certified teacher in here in America?
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I would love to teach in Moscow...I did a one month Russian course at the MGU Uni in 2009...........never ever seen so much 18-21 year old hot pussy in all my life............teaching, option for private help / tuition, jesus it would be like taking candy from a baby!
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(03-25-2013 06:23 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  I worked in Manaus, and it was the perfect fit for me. I got my visa before going to Brazil, although I only got it a few days before I was scheduled to start classes. I found a program online that places gringos without teaching experience in schools in Brazil. There are some limitations to the program, but for me the positives more than outweighed the negatives. I applied around this time of year to start teaching in August.

I broke even each month. If I wanted to do something else, such as a trip to the jungle or to Rio, I used my savings to cover that. I had the opportunity to teach some students in private lessons, but I didn't do too much of that. I had other priorities. Hump

I don't know what would disqualify someone from a visa. I only have some traffic citations. The hold up was waiting for some document to arrive from Brazil. Also, when I arrived in Brazil, my school tried to screw me by having me work 6 days a week. I negotiated them down to 4 days. Those negotiations were tense though. Be prepared for stuff like that. Also my school paid me on time, but that's not always a given. There are many advantages to living in Brazil, but be prepared for some really annoying shit too.

PM me for more details.

Chochemonger would be proud, haha. I'm going to be in Curitiba for a graduate project along with enrolling in advanced grammar classes in Portuguese through a language institution for about 50 hours. My friends and host family down there now are however recommending that I should give teaching English a shot while I'm down. I will be in Brazil from late-May to late-August, but if I field a good offer teaching English...I'll be staying until December while working full-time and doing more advanced grammar classes part-time.

Here is my strategy at least for getting a work visa in Brazil (already have tourist one).
1) Send schools in Curitiba my friends are acclimated with my resume and cover information via email.
2) Get responses hopefully as my friends also with my resume will be putting in a good word for me.
3) When applying for a Brazilian work visa, you need to provide A) bank account statements of your funds, B) a letter mentioning your intent of activities in Brazil, C) a mailing address in the country, D) new passport like pictures, and E) letters from an employer indicating they are interested in hiring you (or even better committed).
4) I can provide the information above except for letter of job placement, because I can't really finalize that until I get down to Curitiba. What I will TRY to swing is use response letters from employers as a letter of interest so I can get this 2 year work visa while explaining that I couldn't confirm placement before arriving in Brazil because I can only get a formal offer after meeting in person. I will also mention the part about me returning to the US in August if I don't get an offer to my liking.
5) Hopefully my work visa comes in the mail early-mid May before I fly out of the country.

I really appreciate the insight as I'll PM you if any other questions arise.
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How hard is it to get a work visa? Are certain countries a lot easier than others?
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(03-25-2013 07:09 PM)yb13 Wrote:  Chochemonger would be proud, haha.

Who do you think put Choche up on Manaus?

Quote:4) I can provide the information above except for letter of job placement, because I can't really finalize that until I get down to Curitiba. What I will TRY to swing is use response letters from employers as a letter of interest so I can get this 2 year work visa while explaining that I couldn't confirm placement before arriving in Brazil because I can only get a formal offer after meeting in person. I will also mention the part about me returning to the US in August if I don't get an offer to my liking.

I don't know if this will work. Embassies tend to be big on formality. You can stay six months on a tourist visa, so my advice would be to get your work visa in Brazil. You can still try to line up a formal offer, and if you get one, apply for the visa while still in the US. But if you don't get it before leaving, you have time before the next semester (usually in August). You have friends on the ground, so they should be able to help you line something up.
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(03-25-2013 06:23 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  I worked in Manaus, and it was the perfect fit for me. I got my visa before going to Brazil, although I only got it a few days before I was scheduled to start classes. I found a program online that places gringos without teaching experience in schools in Brazil. There are some limitations to the program, but for me the positives more than outweighed the negatives. I applied around this time of year to start teaching in August.

I broke even each month. If I wanted to do something else, such as a trip to the jungle or to Rio, I used my savings to cover that. I had the opportunity to teach some students in private lessons, but I didn't do too much of that. I had other priorities. Hump

I don't know what would disqualify someone from a visa. I only have some traffic citations. The hold up was waiting for some document to arrive from Brazil. Also, when I arrived in Brazil, my school tried to screw me by having me work 6 days a week. I negotiated them down to 4 days. Those negotiations were tense though. Be prepared for stuff like that. Also my school paid me on time, but that's not always a given. There are many advantages to living in Brazil, but be prepared for some really annoying shit too.

PM me for more details.

bacc, you must have had some good times while doing that I imagine, many hotties in your classes? Do you know if you can get the visa when you are actually in the country, or must be done before you leave, i am traveling through south america, for almost a year, i leave pretty soon. Looked into teaching in Lima but you had to go through alot of shit, have to get the job and visa B4 you even leave you country. Fuck i wish it was as easy as when i got my work holiday visa for Canada.

These is nothing like living and working in another country.
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(03-25-2013 01:06 AM)houston Wrote:  I just registered on some English teaching forums but have to wait for confirmation. If anyone has any questions they want me to ask, let me know. I'll ask about no degree and the background check for visas.

You can try http://www.seriousteachers.com/ to find a job and http://www.teflonline.net to get a cheap TEFL Certificate. I ended up in provincial Russia in a second tier city for that oblast. I had a degree but they never checked on it. Once I got my TEFL they never checked on that either. I loved it there and considered immigrating permanently but it depends on what you're looking for in your experience.
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http://www.seriousteachers.com/Job_detai...8877&pag=0

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The teacher is expected to be a CELTA holder and a good PC user. Age: 25 - 45. Non-smoker. Charismatic personality. Among our students there are children, teenagers and adults. 4 - 8 learners in a group. Levels are from Elem to Advanced. The working hours are mostly from 2pm to 9pm, Some hours could be in the morning. The main schedule offers 180 lessons a year for each group from September to June (July or August - optional), that is normally 5 days a week. One lesson is 75 to 120 minutes depending on a student’s age. As studying materials we use Pearson Longman courses adapted to Smart White board. The salary is more than $15 per hour, accommodation is free in a comfortable flat. The town is gorgeous. Our hospitality is for granted. One brunch of our school is currently running in Beslan (20km from Vladikavkaz). The other one is due to start in May-June in Vladikavkaz.
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(03-25-2013 11:26 PM)houston Wrote:  http://www.seriousteachers.com/Job_detai...8877&pag=0

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The teacher is expected to be a CELTA holder and a good PC user. Age: 25 - 45. Non-smoker. Charismatic personality. Among our students there are children, teenagers and adults. 4 - 8 learners in a group. Levels are from Elem to Advanced. The working hours are mostly from 2pm to 9pm, Some hours could be in the morning. The main schedule offers 180 lessons a year for each group from September to June (July or August - optional), that is normally 5 days a week. One lesson is 75 to 120 minutes depending on a student’s age. As studying materials we use Pearson Longman courses adapted to Smart White board. The salary is more than $15 per hour, accommodation is free in a comfortable flat. The town is gorgeous. Our hospitality is for granted. One brunch of our school is currently running in Beslan (20km from Vladikavkaz). The other one is due to start in May-June in Vladikavkaz.

It's cold as fuck in Russia but the chicks are the overall hottest in the world after Estonians. Be careful if you travel to the caucus oblasts as they are very anti-western and pro-terrorist.
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It doesn't really look like it's possible to do it with no degree. I don't know about getting a certificate, flying somewhere and just trying to land something when I'm on the ground.

http://internationalschoolsreview.com/v-...php?t=3272
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101044
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(03-26-2013 05:45 PM)houston Wrote:  It doesn't really look like it's possible to do it with no degree. I don't know about getting a certificate, flying somewhere and just trying to land something when I'm on the ground.

http://internationalschoolsreview.com/v-...php?t=3272
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101044

Just get the cheap TEFL certificate, all you need to do it is study and take the test online it's open book since it's online. Play up your work history as being more managerial and you should at least be able to get an interview for Russia and probably some offers in provincial China. I got two offers in Russia and about 15 offers right away in China. China especially needs NATIVE English teachers. Especially being American you're selling the dream to your students and there is a mystique about us overseas, loved and hated at the same time. It's mostly because of Hollywood, it makes foreigners love and hate us more, weird. But the need for NATIVE English teachers is there especially for China.
http://www.teach86.com/company/
http://www.visarus.co.uk/
You will need a VISA before you go, you can't even go to Russia or China without one they won't let you on the plane and even if they don't check they'll get you at the airport. If you ever watched the show 24 you know not to mess with the Russians or Chinese, Jack Bauer wouldn't even mess with them unless they were trying to take over our country!!!! If you speak any other languages that will also help, Spanish, English, German, etc., 2 for 1 will make you more valuable.
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Word of advice- don't fuck your students. Seriously, do not fuck your students. It's just not worth it. Let the starry-eyed stares of teenage girls boost your ego, but don't let it tempt you into losing your job and your visa. You should be working in a pussy paradise, so it's not like you're going to be hurting for options. Get caught, that's your ass and your visa. As long as you don't make that mistake, you can be there for as long as you want to, so you'll be able to find a girl who is even better than the one who blushes every time you look at her.

Most of the girls in my class were plain, but I had three girls who were very good-looking. I was flattered by their flirting with me, but I never touched them. Angel Besides, I got my fill and then some, so the temptation was never that strong. Sure, it would have been a good story, but I had more than enough adventures too.

It's a different scenario if you're working in a country with strong social circles. Then maybe the risk vs. reward balances out differently.
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Cool guy - Will it be easy to get a visa for China or Russia? What exactly is required and do they check? Did you get job offers from America or did you just fly out and start applying?

Yeah, I can "stretch the truth" about being a manager at all my old positions. I'll give them numbers to my "associates" if they want to talk to someone from the company. Honestly, I just want enough money to pay everything and at least to have a little bit of fun while I'm there. It would be nice to save while I'm working though. I don't wanna be stuck in some tiny town with nothing going on but if there's at least good bars/clubs with nice looking women all around the city...
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I have spent three years living in China. My first two semesters were as a legitimate student. I did a little teaching in my second semester, under the table, but just a few hours a week.

The second year, I stayed for 12 months straight. Came in on a tourist visa and enrolled part time at a school. Got switched over to a student visa (this is just about impossible to do now, so don't try that move). Stopped going to classes once I got my passport back and no one ever tracked me down. Just worked the rest of the year.

Third year, stayed for 13 months straight. Came in on a 180 day (90 days per entry) 2 entry tourist visa. Stayed 90 days then flew to Korea over night and came back for the second 90 day period.

After that I found a good agency in Hong Kong that could get me business visas no questions asked for about $300. I assume someone was getting paid off or they just had really good connections.

I do not have a degree, but succeeded in making a living working under the table for more than two years in China.

Its risky to some degree, but lots of guys do it (women usually don't have the balls) and you won't pay tax. Even the IRS would never be able to confirm your income. I don't cheat on my taxes, but the CRS has been willing to accept a page from me that lists my monthly earns with no supporting documentation.

I will probably return to China in the future and do the same thing.

It helps if you speak Chinese, but if you are motivated, there are a lot of part time freelance jobs to pick up, which is better than a full time contract, as working 15 hrs part time earns you the same money as a full time 40 hrs a week job.

PM me or post below if you have more detailed questions about teaching in China.

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I was thinking of taking TESOL after work is finished in a week. Planning on heading to Poland. Roosh has sold me on it and I have a Polish friend from childhood that moved back to Poland.

Still trying to decide what city to go to.
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