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It's Kabbalah for gentiles, veiled as nothing but a traditional fraternal organization. The spiritual core of it is purely Luciferian, but the "outer circles" are generally oblivious to any of the spiritual stuff and just there because it's fun and most of the people there are nice. I was a very active Mason before I left to become Christian, and wrote "On The Masons And Their Lies" to go through all of the reasons why you can't be both a Freemason and Christian if you understand either of them well enough.

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Thanks for your input here Michael, and glad you saw the light. Logos rising!

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(06-30-2019 08:30 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  It's Kabbalah for gentiles, veiled as nothing but a traditional fraternal organization. The spiritual core of it is purely Luciferian, but the "outer circles" are generally oblivious to any of the spiritual stuff and just there because it's fun and most of the people there are nice. I was a very active Mason before I left to become Christian, and wrote "On The Masons And Their Lies" to go through all of the reasons why you can't be both a Freemason and Christian if you understand either of them well enough.

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It’s available on Amazon in paperback, Kindle and Audible:

https://www.amazon.com/Masons-Their-Lies...B07DBHXNYL

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(06-30-2019 02:45 PM)MusicForThePiano Wrote:  
(06-30-2019 04:13 AM)Georgepithyou Wrote:  What exactly are the benefits of becoming a freemason? What do they even do?

For the price of giving up your privacy to the state, your anus to a bunch of dudes, and your soul to the devil, you get to learn all the forbidden lies of geometry, philosophy, history, alchemy, esoteric blunders, and a front row seat to your first pedophilia-sacrifice theater combo, maybe even participation later on if you impress the grand masters.

Seriously though. Low ranking masons have no fucking clue what their higher ups are into. Seems a good way to keep the initiated down. Some of the ones I met were genuinely nice, but could be suffering from MPD/DID as most psychopaths have one persona in public and another in private.

You have to be a man of good character, and believe in any God. They will send a committee to your home to meet your family if they accept your application. Your God could be a sweaty sock for all they care, their allegiance is to lucifer/devil/satan however, so if you believe in Jesus Christ you would make a mockery of yourself and your belief if you joined them. Just understand that is who they pray to. It seems they're trying to make devil-worshiping look like something done by genuine men, but they can't pull the wool over any truth-seeker's eyes.

You'll get more benefits forming your own crew who will look out for your back and not be a part of this demonic charade.



I used to think the freemasons where breeding place for conspiracies but to be honest I kinda doubt that now...

I do not dismiss the possibility that they are a conspiracy breeding place but personally I doubt all the conspiracy tales surrounding it.

Feel free to disagree, I don't even feel the need to defend this opinion just to formulate it.
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Freemasonry is interesting I'll give it that much. And it certainly has deep roots in our country given the number of founding fathers that were freemasons as well as more recent presidents. I have a relative that was in the Masons granted this was a long time ago way before my time. My understanding is that any man that was of high moral character or high social standing for that matter was a mason, it's certainly helped my relative go far, despite the apolitical stated nature of the Freemasons he met a lot good men that we're there to help him in his life. As far as the Freemasonry today I don't know how well it is doing but I am aware that there is a problem recruiting younger members. This is linked to a decrease in civic engagement and fraternal engagement by the younger generation.

Has anyone heard anything about a group called the odd Fellows? I was doing some basic research on them the other day and I was surprised by the number of presidents that were a member of this fraternal society don't have any idea how closely related it is to the Masons-- but sounds similar.
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The BBC did a series on "inside the freemasons" - I watched it on Netflix when I was in the Philippines. It all seemed rather tedious to me, like an old boys club at a school.

The fraternal aspects were wholesome but overall it seemed a little petty, with members trying to outdo each other in terms of rank and aprons, all the while pretending like they weren't doing that.

Here is a short clip from it:





You'll notice there is some quite obvious Jewish/Satanic symbolism in the lodges.

I also read a book on the history of the Masons - it was very level-headed and most convincing. Conclusion was the masons have absolutely nothing to do with medieval stone masons at all, and were in fact descended from the Knights Templar who were on the run from the very dangerous Catholic Church at the time.

I suspect it's part of a larger indoctrination plan by the Zionist types to spread their acceptance far and wide and to interweave themselves into the very fabric of Western society at all levels.

I would guess that outer layers (degrees 1 through 3) are just to keep the hoi polloi thinking they are on the inside but secretly there are deeper hidden levels reserved only for those high up enough and connected enough in society.

Link to the book - worth reading, very interesting history about Europe and England the Middle East through the last 1000 years:

https://tinyurl.com/y263dtco

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(07-01-2019 12:11 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  It’s available on Amazon in paperback, Kindle and Audible:

https://www.amazon.com/Masons-Their-Lies...B07DBHXNYL

Read the book. Very well written.

Might be difficult to parse for anyone not religious at parts.

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(07-02-2019 06:50 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  The BBC did a series on "inside the freemasons" - I watched it on Netflix when I was in the Philippines. It all seemed rather tedious to me, like an old boys club at a school.

The fraternal aspects were wholesome but overall it seemed a little petty, with members trying to outdo each other in terms of rank and aprons, all the while pretending like they weren't doing that.

Here is a short clip from it:





You'll notice there is some quite obvious Jewish/Satanic symbolism in the lodges.

I also read a book on the history of the Masons - it was very level-headed and most convincing. Conclusion was the masons have absolutely nothing to do with medieval stone masons at all, and were in fact descended from the Knights Templar who were on the run from the very dangerous Catholic Church at the time.

I suspect it's part of a larger indoctrination plan by the Zionist types to spread their acceptance far and wide and to interweave themselves into the very fabric of Western society at all levels.

I would guess that outer layers (degrees 1 through 3) are just to keep the hoi polloi thinking they are on the inside but secretly there are deeper hidden levels reserved only for those high up enough and connected enough in society.

Link to the book - worth reading, very interesting history about Europe and England the Middle East through the last 1000 years:

https://tinyurl.com/y263dtco

They are a bit more anti-mason in the UK for some reason, so masons are even more quiet about their membership:

Quote: Two Freemasons’ lodges set up more than 80 years ago for members of parliament and political journalists are continuing to operate, the Guardian has learned.

New Welcome Lodge, which set up to recruit MPs, peers and parliamentary staff, and Gallery Lodge, established for members of the political press corps known as the lobby, both remain active, according to Freemasonry records.

The United Grand Lodge of England says that no MPs or lobby journalists are members of those lodges. However, it has confirmed that several MPs are Freemasons.

A third lodge called the Alfred Robbins Lodge, which was also set up for journalists, also continues to meet regularly in London.

The identities of the members of these three lodges remain unknown outside the world of Freemasonry, however, and so discreet are the members of Gallery Lodge that few journalists working in the lobby appear to be aware of its existence.

What's remarkable is that there was some outrage about these cases, but the lodges were not shut down. Reminds me a bit of the Propaganda Due (P2) lodge that many members of the Italian deep state were a part of in the 80's including Silvio Berlusconi.
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(07-02-2019 11:53 AM)Geomann180 Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 12:11 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  It’s available on Amazon in paperback, Kindle and Audible:

https://www.amazon.com/Masons-Their-Lies...B07DBHXNYL

Read the book. Very well written.

Might be difficult to parse for anyone not religious at parts.

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Thank you sir, much appreciated. And yes it does get a bit dense at parts, especially the Kabbalah part, but I tried to keep it as understandable as possible Smile

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(06-30-2019 08:30 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  It's Kabbalah for gentiles, veiled as nothing but a traditional fraternal organization. The spiritual core of it is purely Luciferian, but the "outer circles" are generally oblivious to any of the spiritual stuff and just there because it's fun and most of the people there are nice. I was a very active Mason before I left to become Christian, and wrote "On The Masons And Their Lies" to go through all of the reasons why you can't be both a Freemason and Christian if you understand either of them well enough.

This guy gets it.

One thing most people don't understand is that the higher levels of the organization consider your average blue lodge member to be "profane".
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(07-02-2019 07:00 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  
(06-30-2019 08:30 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  It's Kabbalah for gentiles, veiled as nothing but a traditional fraternal organization. The spiritual core of it is purely Luciferian, but the "outer circles" are generally oblivious to any of the spiritual stuff and just there because it's fun and most of the people there are nice. I was a very active Mason before I left to become Christian, and wrote "On The Masons And Their Lies" to go through all of the reasons why you can't be both a Freemason and Christian if you understand either of them well enough.

This guy gets it.

One thing most people don't understand is that the higher levels of the organization consider your average blue lodge member to be "profane".

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light from them and to draw them away from it." - Albert Pike, Morals And Dogma

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(06-30-2019 08:30 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  It's Kabbalah for gentiles, veiled as nothing but a traditional fraternal organization. The spiritual core of it is purely Luciferian, but the "outer circles" are generally oblivious to any of the spiritual stuff and just there because it's fun and most of the people there are nice. I was a very active Mason before I left to become Christian, and wrote "On The Masons And Their Lies" to go through all of the reasons why you can't be both a Freemason and Christian if you understand either of them well enough.

It's a good read. Are there any foreign language translations available?
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(07-11-2019 11:19 AM)wwtl Wrote:  
(06-30-2019 08:30 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  It's Kabbalah for gentiles, veiled as nothing but a traditional fraternal organization. The spiritual core of it is purely Luciferian, but the "outer circles" are generally oblivious to any of the spiritual stuff and just there because it's fun and most of the people there are nice. I was a very active Mason before I left to become Christian, and wrote "On The Masons And Their Lies" to go through all of the reasons why you can't be both a Freemason and Christian if you understand either of them well enough.

It's a good read. Are there any foreign language translations available?

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. I haven't sanctioned anything official but there was a guy last year who wanted to translate it into some Middle Eastern language. Not sure if he ever got around to it.

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Always been fascinated by the Masons, any lodges here in Barcelona, Spain?

(10-29-2011 05:12 PM)Smitty Wrote:  I'm a Master Mason, which is a third degree Mason and the highest level you can obtain. There are other degrees that appear higher (such as 33rd degree) but they are from separate organizations such as Scottish Rite, Shriners, etc.

You must petition a particular lodge and be sponsored by two Masons, who essentially vouch for you. Your petition is then voted on and must be passed unanimously. If approved, you are initiated at the first degree (Entered Apprentice), you do some work to achieve second degree (Fellowcraft), some more work, and then you can become a 3rd degree, or Master Mason. The most common way to move up through the degrees from 1st to 3rd is to work 1v1 with a coach where he teaches you a catechism. It is essentially A LOT of memorization, but the kicker is that it's all by voice...nothing is ever written down. So you will learn to speak like a Mason as George Washington did but it won't be easy. It is very rewarding..and it's not uncommon to question early on why you are spending so much time with it. Stick with it and you'll be rewarded.

Freemasonry is based on ritual. A lot of what we do is scripted and has been passed down verbally for hundreds of years. When you are new, you don't understand much but as you participate more and understand what is being spoken, you see the real beauty in it and truly how the craft teaches you to be a better person. There is no witchcraft or weird satanic cult like some people claim. I am a Christian and would head for the door first I came across any of that stuff. Speaking of religion, you must believe in a higher being (God) but religion is never discussed in lodge (nor politics).

The greatest thing about Freemasonry is that once you're initiated, you instantly (and eternally) belong to the group and are treated as a brother. Whether at your own lodge or some random lodge in Germany, you are a brother and you will be treated as such. You'll often hear that we are not a secretive organization, we are an organization that has secrets. Some people think they will get in to just network but that won't last long. You should be committed to your lodge and your brothers. You can trust your Mason brothers with your girlfriend or wife (unlike with the gents on this board!). There is far too much for me to type, but feel free to let me know if you have any further questions. A lot can be found on the Internet. Good luck.
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Fuck that shit. If I'd be getting into masonry, I'd rather be paid for it.

For entertainment and educational use only, your m8 Jackin'
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There's so much out there on freemasons.

Duality
Worshipping The Light (Lucifer)

Errr, no thanks.
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I seem to remember the provincial grand lodge in my area was founded in the 1700s. If you look at the grand masters it's Sir this - , Baron that, an MP.

Now if you look at it, there are still some fairly well put together men in the organisation, but they are in their 70s. If you look younger then it becomes ridiculous. The father of someone I know is a very serious guy and has pushed his son to join and said the masons are very conscious about trying to get in young men.

The son has been on a couple post-lodge meetings (the pub) with the new intake - people around 30-40. Who was there? Who was one of the people that the masons had drawn in as part of their conscious effort to appeal to young men? None other than the biggest weirdo I went to school with. He talks in weird voices, looks like a spoon and walks like a gay Satan. I heard this guy locked himself in his room for months and his parents had to cut a hole in the door to post food in. And remember you have to be sponsored to join the masons. If I remember correctly you need two masons to vouch for you to join. And this guy got past that hurdle.

This is not a remote phenomena. Freemasonry attracts at best average guys who are a bit odd or quirky. The masons used to be a who's who of who was running things. Now it's a who's who of guys you can't learn anything from.

There is a big need for a modern, loose fraternal group, something along the lines of RVF, but the masons are a joke.
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(07-12-2019 07:33 AM)gework Wrote:  This is not a remote phenomena. Freemasonry attracts at best average guys who are a bit odd or quirky. The masons used to be a who's who of who was running things. Now it's a who's who of guys you can't learn anything from.

There is a big need for a modern, loose fraternal group, something along the lines of RVF, but the masons are a joke.

Masons have different levels. Just about any idiot that shows up at a lodge will get accepted and nothing particularly bad happens there. Most Masons get stuck at the third degree, which doesn't have any big secrets.

The higher levels (Scotish and York rite) are when things start to get serious.

The same principles apply for literally every single society/fraternal type organization (every government agency and religion operates on the same principles). The bottom is boring and a bunch of normies; the top is where the conspiracies originate.

I still don't recommend joining the Masons, but saying the Masons are a joke shows that you have zero understanding of how hierarchal organizations actually work.
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