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(11-14-2018 03:42 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(11-12-2018 09:25 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  Most of the well paying construction jobs will require some form of technical qualification in Australia. There are a bunch of jobs that just require tickets but they don't pay as well generally and are more competitive to get into because getting a ticket normally just requires a semi-functional brain. Only really the engineering and geology stuff requires a university degree though.

If you're not making 100k with a trade in Australia then you should be looking for another employer, you can basically double/triple the city rate by working on mines but the boom has certainly died off on that front making it far more competitive to get into and hold your gig. I've met carpenters, sparkies and mechanics making over 300k a year on mine sites though it's certainly on the higher end of the scale.

There's been a bit of a crack down on foreign visas as well which makes it harder for non-Australian's but it's still not difficult to get by any means but you'll probably cop a price cut to get it over an Aussie (which is why you'll get hired over said Aussie and then he'll sook it).

Have you ever met any americans on a work holiday visa at the mines or in a trade?

No. Imagine there are several reasons, the first is that the US has a special work travel Visa and part of it requires you to have full health insurance for the entire period and have completed high school at a minimum and be under 30. That's a pretty strong combo to kill off tradies.

Second is that you can only work for a single employer for 6 months but the work has to be temporary or casual in nature as well. Mine sites aren't generally interested in someone they're going to spend a couple of months teaching, that they'll have to pay huge amounts of overtime to as casual employees that can't work for more than 6 months.

Third is the pay just isn't significantly better, if better at all, than those guys just going to the gulf or Canada, both of which are far easier for US citizens.

There are tons on 457 visas (skilled worker visa) though but that's a specific list of occupations that is generally getting shorter these days.

None of the above precludes it from happening, fwiw, just never heard of it. Australia uses the work travel visa similar to how the US uses illegal immigrants, you pay them peanuts to do the jobs that Australian's don't want to do like picking fruit or bartending in the middle of nowhere.
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Is it really possible to find a gig without experience for someone from Europe. Next year I will have my English Language and Literature degree, so I was wondering if it is possible to receive free training before getting the job.
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Anyone notice the majors putting more and more women in management positions? Schlumberger treats its women field engineers like rock stars. Usually you have to pay your dues of 3-5 years in the field before they move an engineer into a cushier management role in an office. They have these young women barely put in 1 year then they get moved into management it's absurd. They also seem to have a much higher threshold of infraction to get fired.
I'm glad I don't plan to have a career here, the modern workplace is becoming intolerable.
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(11-27-2018 03:38 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  Anyone notice the majors putting more and more women in management positions? Schlumberger treats its women field engineers like rock stars. Usually you have to pay your dues of 3-5 years in the field before they move an engineer into a cushier management role in an office. They have these young women barely put in 1 year then they get moved into management it's absurd. They also seem to have a much higher threshold of infraction to get fired.
I'm glad I don't plan to have a career here, the modern workplace is becoming intolerable.

It's schlumbergay brah. Not surprised. The other day I met a completions engineer at a mid sized operator whose only credentials are having a MS in geology or something like that....for completions engineer!

How are the dental benefits at slumgay? Enjoying making shit go BOOM downhole yet?

Fuckers at my yard are inept and we're about to go from 5 frac spreads to 1-2 in 6 months due to incompetence. They won't let me work days off, keeping me poor.

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(11-14-2018 05:24 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  Australia uses the work travel visa similar to how the US uses illegal immigrants, you pay them peanuts to do the jobs that Australian's don't want to do like picking fruit or bartending in the middle of nowhere.

Not only... in trades, IT, sales, pretty much everything, most Australian businesses use it to undercut local skilled workers who DO want to do the work, driving the local labour cost down for max profit... and resentment.

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As we head into 2019, would anyone be able to provide insight into where the opportunities are in this industry this upcoming year?

I am a 21 year old currently working on obtaining my degree in marketing. I am willing to make a career change (learn a trade), am not afraid of hard work, and have dual citizenship (US/Canada). I'd also be willing to get the work visa for mining in Australia if I had to. My only drawback is that I have no work experience at this point.

Scotian? Cattle Rustler? What are your thoughts. Thank you for your contributions to this thread, I greatly appreciate it.
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(12-03-2018 12:22 PM)AlphaWolf97 Wrote:  As we head into 2019, would anyone be able to provide insight into where the opportunities are in this industry this upcoming year?

I am a 21 year old currently working on obtaining my degree in marketing. I am willing to make a career change (learn a trade), am not afraid of hard work, and have dual citizenship (US/Canada). I'd also be willing to get the work visa for mining in Australia if I had to. My only drawback is that I have no work experience at this point.

Scotian? Cattle Rustler? What are your thoughts. Thank you for your contributions to this thread, I greatly appreciate it.

Read the thread bro. Get in or stay on the sidelines, no insight is going to help since no here is Houdini and we can't predict the oil market. If you read the thread, you would know everyone got in with no experience.

Sorry not sorry about being a condescending dick, but it's been asked too many times.

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Help me out bros. I'm looking at helper positions, so I can get some trade experience and move in with the powerhouses like Pioneer or KBR. The problem is I feel bad about lying when they ask me what my plans are. Help me realize that I shouldn't give a fuck about them so I can lie with impunity.
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Necroing this thread, because information.

Found this article. It's a couple of years old, but it lists some positions that generally require no experience

http://www.joboilrig.com/oil-rig-job-vacancies/
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He is not the only Blue Collar-repairing helicopters is pretty blue collar)

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You don’t need to lie. Just omit. Make sure to communicate that you’re extremely passionate about learning the trade. They don’t need to know why any further than how interesting you find that particular job.
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You should always be looking out for yourself before any company. Lead them on until you give them your notice that you're leaving..

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Well cuckbois, it looks like the party is coming to an end. Work is slowing down and most service companies are downsizing.

SLB sent 8 WTX frac fleets to the yard, HAL has shit ton of equipment parked in Oklahoma, and offer letters are being rescinded. Hiring freeze were I’m at for the past 2 months.

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So what’s your next move brah? I’m sure you’ve got a fait bit of coin stashed away by now eh?

I’m freezing my dick off in Saskatchewan, just dragged up from a refinery gig and am going to chase some pipeline for a few months then hopefully some refinery shutdowns in the spring. I’m trying to stack big cash this year, picking up a couple of certifications to make more money and hopefully be moving onto something else within the next 2-3 years.

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Hi, I'm older than 35 and Irish. I'd dearly love to be able to get some of these oil jobs. I'm unskilled but capable and hard working. I'm looking into how to apply for an H1b visa job. Canadian visa seems more difficult. If anyone can help me to get a job in Canada (or the US) like scotian describes, I'd be very grateful. Thanks.
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There's literally a 0.0% chance you'll get a H1b visa if you're unskilled. Not sure if there is any special treaties with Ireland but at your age I'd would pretty much bet it's impossible to immigrate. Your best bet is probably to marry a canadian/us girl.
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Still punchin holes near red deer.. couple more holes for this season I think. Talk about not starting up again until Q4 but who knows. This past week was fucking brutal.. -40s Celsius all week

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Ya we got shut down in Saskatchewan because it was so cold, I have a few days off so I’m back in Edmonton, -32 here this morning but it’s going to “warm up” by Monday to a balmy -20 and should stay like that all week, brutal.

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I'm currently job searching at the moment and aside from one potential job unrelated to oil fields I'm probably packing my bags and leaving for North Dakota. I got a load of advice from some people yesterday and you don't even have to work in the patches, just get your feet wet by working at the local Walmart and build your connections that way. A buddy of mine even told me janitors apparently get paid 60K and if true I'd be stupid not to move!!! You take a pay cut but at least you're not out in the cold.

Since I'm not too confident about that non-oil related job if I do head out I'll update this thread.

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I decided to go back to my former employer for a couple months while I wait for my other job to start back up in the Spring. Got a decent deal out of them. One location only, fly-in/fly-out, on rotation, and they're activating my benefits right away. Also on a day-shift only crew for now which will be nice. Gonna stack cash, eat good food, and hit the gym everyday. Of course it has to be cold as shit right when I decide to go back! Fly out tomorrow.
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Yo bro thanks for the info what's the situation like right now and I'm a 21 year old living in the UK dropped out of high school ive been looking for a job like this and I wouldn't mind moving to Canada if I could be making 6 figures can you leave your email or something so I can contact you directly thanks
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^^

Reread the information again as you're not ready. There's oil companies all over the world why the fuck would you fly over to Canada? If you're serious about flying over I'd even look into extreme cold winter pointers, defensive driving, and how to winterize your car. Good luck.

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I finally found a major who wants to buy my automated mudlogging system. It's not finished but they see the value on what I'm trying to do. It's been 5 long years and at this point I don't even fucking care anymore. I was 26 when I had the idea, it should've been quickly and aggressively executed then. But 2014-2017 was completely dead, then 2017-2018 I tried to finish it myself needing some expensive parts. I finally caved.

At this point I'd just be happy to get like 800k so I can go to eastern europe and smoke weed and party while I still look young and tell girls I'm 25.

There's no career anymore, several of the senior R&D guys I tried to sell my device to in 2015-2018, I checked their linkedin's and they've been layed off and they're only 45-55. These guys have publications, patents, and were perfect employees now they'll probably never get hired again as they're over-qualified to do anything else. If you follow the crowd You'll get fucked.

If you don't aggressively cash out and build a nest you're going to end up very fucked. Only fools think there's some job waiting for you because of your "skills" or whatever. I think the validates my strategy of cashing out instead of begging an employer for a job. Alot of these older guys got 15+ years with a company thinking their "skills" and "value" to their employer until they get layed off and noone will hire them anymore.

If you can own a new digital oilfield tech you will do very well, instead of being a sucker employee who gets paid salary to create it for your company. Lucky for me, noone wants to be a mudlogger I think that's why this niche went un-touched just for me Smile

I personally think my device is worth about 10 million, but I've seen how brutal the economy is I think parachuting out with 500k - 1.5 million cash I'd be happy with the W.

I remember october 2014 everything seemed okay then BAM everyone's fucked so I'm not holding out lest something terrible happen.
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(02-23-2019 02:13 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  I finally found a major who wants to buy my automated mudlogging system. It's not finished but they see the value on what I'm trying to do. It's been 5 long years and at this point I don't even fucking care anymore. I was 26 when I had the idea, it should've been quickly and aggressively executed then. But 2014-2017 was completely dead, then 2017-2018 I tried to finish it myself needing some expensive parts. I finally caved.

At this point I'd just be happy to get like 800k so I can go to eastern europe and smoke weed and party while I still look young and tell girls I'm 25.

There's no career anymore, several of the senior R&D guys I tried to sell my device to in 2015-2018, I checked their linkedin's and they've been layed off and they're only 45-55. These guys have publications, patents, and were perfect employees now they'll probably never get hired again as they're over-qualified to do anything else. If you follow the crowd You'll get fucked.

If you don't aggressively cash out and build a nest you're going to end up very fucked. Only fools think there's some job waiting for you because of your "skills" or whatever. I think the validates my strategy of cashing out instead of begging an employer for a job. Alot of these older guys got 15+ years with a company thinking their "skills" and "value" to their employer until they get layed off and noone will hire them anymore.

If you can own a new digital oilfield tech you will do very well, instead of being a sucker employee who gets paid salary to create it for your company. Lucky for me, noone wants to be a mudlogger I think that's why this niche went un-touched just for me Smile

I personally think my device is worth about 10 million, but I've seen how brutal the economy is I think parachuting out with 500k - 1.5 million cash I'd be happy with the W.

I remember october 2014 everything seemed okay then BAM everyone's fucked so I'm not holding out lest something terrible happen.

Good to read my friend! However... make sure to fight til the end! Don't settle for 500k if you think it's worth 10Mil no way! Shell makes 9 figures daily... and that industry NEEDS your invention... to make even more! If I was you... knowing that a Payday is coming... I'd work at McDonald or worse to make sure I'm not needy for cash... and fight til the death for the millions you believe your invention is worth. Don't let them off the hook. Get some of that daily 9 figures they're currently making without you. Good luck
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Tomorrow is my big day!

I don't remember how I got noticed by the recruiter but a couple days ago one of the companies scotian PMed me about reached out to me telling me they are willing to train me. All I need to do is show up for a casual interview. I'm rereading what scotian PMed me about so I don't look like a doofus tomorrow. Will smile and say recruiter's name. Don't be desperate, don't bad mouth former employers. Should be like taking candy from a baby.

FUCK man I'm seriously happy no more working my dead end jobs. I can't confidently say this yet but I might give my 2 week notice in a couple days and fuck off to the oil industry. To make it even sweeter one of the forum members here can get me a job in a separate industry. All this job searching shit has finally paid off to a point where I can get the pick of the litter.

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