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Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!
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RE: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!
(11-14-2018 03:42 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(11-12-2018 09:25 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  Most of the well paying construction jobs will require some form of technical qualification in Australia. There are a bunch of jobs that just require tickets but they don't pay as well generally and are more competitive to get into because getting a ticket normally just requires a semi-functional brain. Only really the engineering and geology stuff requires a university degree though.

If you're not making 100k with a trade in Australia then you should be looking for another employer, you can basically double/triple the city rate by working on mines but the boom has certainly died off on that front making it far more competitive to get into and hold your gig. I've met carpenters, sparkies and mechanics making over 300k a year on mine sites though it's certainly on the higher end of the scale.

There's been a bit of a crack down on foreign visas as well which makes it harder for non-Australian's but it's still not difficult to get by any means but you'll probably cop a price cut to get it over an Aussie (which is why you'll get hired over said Aussie and then he'll sook it).

Have you ever met any americans on a work holiday visa at the mines or in a trade?

No. Imagine there are several reasons, the first is that the US has a special work travel Visa and part of it requires you to have full health insurance for the entire period and have completed high school at a minimum and be under 30. That's a pretty strong combo to kill off tradies.

Second is that you can only work for a single employer for 6 months but the work has to be temporary or casual in nature as well. Mine sites aren't generally interested in someone they're going to spend a couple of months teaching, that they'll have to pay huge amounts of overtime to as casual employees that can't work for more than 6 months.

Third is the pay just isn't significantly better, if better at all, than those guys just going to the gulf or Canada, both of which are far easier for US citizens.

There are tons on 457 visas (skilled worker visa) though but that's a specific list of occupations that is generally getting shorter these days.

None of the above precludes it from happening, fwiw, just never heard of it. Australia uses the work travel visa similar to how the US uses illegal immigrants, you pay them peanuts to do the jobs that Australian's don't want to do like picking fruit or bartending in the middle of nowhere.
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11-14-2018 05:24 AM
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RE: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!
Is it really possible to find a gig without experience for someone from Europe. Next year I will have my English Language and Literature degree, so I was wondering if it is possible to receive free training before getting the job.
11-27-2018 11:05 AM
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RE: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!
Anyone notice the majors putting more and more women in management positions? Schlumberger treats its women field engineers like rock stars. Usually you have to pay your dues of 3-5 years in the field before they move an engineer into a cushier management role in an office. They have these young women barely put in 1 year then they get moved into management it's absurd. They also seem to have a much higher threshold of infraction to get fired.
I'm glad I don't plan to have a career here, the modern workplace is becoming intolerable.
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11-27-2018 03:38 PM
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(11-27-2018 03:38 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  Anyone notice the majors putting more and more women in management positions? Schlumberger treats its women field engineers like rock stars. Usually you have to pay your dues of 3-5 years in the field before they move an engineer into a cushier management role in an office. They have these young women barely put in 1 year then they get moved into management it's absurd. They also seem to have a much higher threshold of infraction to get fired.
I'm glad I don't plan to have a career here, the modern workplace is becoming intolerable.

It's schlumbergay brah. Not surprised. The other day I met a completions engineer at a mid sized operator whose only credentials are having a MS in geology or something like that....for completions engineer!

How are the dental benefits at slumgay? Enjoying making shit go BOOM downhole yet?

Fuckers at my yard are inept and we're about to go from 5 frac spreads to 1-2 in 6 months due to incompetence. They won't let me work days off, keeping me poor.

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(11-14-2018 05:24 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  Australia uses the work travel visa similar to how the US uses illegal immigrants, you pay them peanuts to do the jobs that Australian's don't want to do like picking fruit or bartending in the middle of nowhere.

Not only... in trades, IT, sales, pretty much everything, most Australian businesses use it to undercut local skilled workers who DO want to do the work, driving the local labour cost down for max profit... and resentment.

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RE: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!
As we head into 2019, would anyone be able to provide insight into where the opportunities are in this industry this upcoming year?

I am a 21 year old currently working on obtaining my degree in marketing. I am willing to make a career change (learn a trade), am not afraid of hard work, and have dual citizenship (US/Canada). I'd also be willing to get the work visa for mining in Australia if I had to. My only drawback is that I have no work experience at this point.

Scotian? Cattle Rustler? What are your thoughts. Thank you for your contributions to this thread, I greatly appreciate it.
12-03-2018 12:22 PM
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(12-03-2018 12:22 PM)AlphaWolf97 Wrote:  As we head into 2019, would anyone be able to provide insight into where the opportunities are in this industry this upcoming year?

I am a 21 year old currently working on obtaining my degree in marketing. I am willing to make a career change (learn a trade), am not afraid of hard work, and have dual citizenship (US/Canada). I'd also be willing to get the work visa for mining in Australia if I had to. My only drawback is that I have no work experience at this point.

Scotian? Cattle Rustler? What are your thoughts. Thank you for your contributions to this thread, I greatly appreciate it.

Read the thread bro. Get in or stay on the sidelines, no insight is going to help since no here is Houdini and we can't predict the oil market. If you read the thread, you would know everyone got in with no experience.

Sorry not sorry about being a condescending dick, but it's been asked too many times.

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12-03-2018 02:12 PM
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RE: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!
Help me out bros. I'm looking at helper positions, so I can get some trade experience and move in with the powerhouses like Pioneer or KBR. The problem is I feel bad about lying when they ask me what my plans are. Help me realize that I shouldn't give a fuck about them so I can lie with impunity.
12-05-2018 12:05 AM
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Necroing this thread, because information.

Found this article. It's a couple of years old, but it lists some positions that generally require no experience

http://www.joboilrig.com/oil-rig-job-vacancies/
12-08-2018 09:40 PM
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He is not the only Blue Collar-repairing helicopters is pretty blue collar)

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12-08-2018 09:57 PM
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RE: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!
You don’t need to lie. Just omit. Make sure to communicate that you’re extremely passionate about learning the trade. They don’t need to know why any further than how interesting you find that particular job.
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