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(08-08-2019 08:08 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  My phone has started flagging severe weather warnings for places all over the country every time a stout breeze whips up. I didn't add any apps or change any settings. This nonsense just started happening and I couldn't figure out what the purpose was until "ah, muh climate change hysteria machine".

According to my phone Australia is undertaking some kind apocalyptic "The Day After tomorrow" weather scenario more or less perpetually and it's incredibly important that I'm made aware of it all the time despite not having been to most of these places in years. tard

You know (((they))) control the big Australia umbrella companies.

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You just wait until they start creating artificial shortages of Spam and Busch and then blame it on climate change.

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(08-08-2019 08:08 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  My phone has started flagging severe weather warnings for places all over the country every time a stout breeze whips up. I didn't add any apps or change any settings. This nonsense just started happening and I couldn't figure out what the purpose was until "ah, muh climate change hysteria machine".

According to my phone Australia is undertaking some kind apocalyptic "The Day After tomorrow" weather scenario more or less perpetually and it's incredibly important that I'm made aware of it all the time despite not having been to most of these places in years. tard

Same here in the midwest, every severe thunder storm that blows down trees is now 'climate change' as opposed to 'tornado alley in summer'

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(08-02-2019 11:32 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < Jeez - so your only metric is abortion? Wow - plenty of wonderful utopias for you out there - primitive bushmen tribes, African countries with 6+ surviving kids etc. Enjoy living in subsaharan Africa. "Liberal hellhole" - buddy - so long as the demographics remain, then it's still a high-IQ order-loving country and similar like communism - it can survive even liberalism. Japan with a lower population of 60 mio. will still be Japan. Germany while being 30% native won't be German and neither will the US be Anglo-saxon founded USA. Iceland without 3rd world migration will still be Iceland and the future generations might move towards conservativsm. Taking upon only abortion and top-down promoted feminism as all civilization markers is insane. By that measure then China, Japan, Taiwan are all hellholes and only some real shithole countries are utopias.

I remember reading or hearing an account of a refugee living in Denmark (or some similar place).

He was on a desolate stretch of road late into the night and was amazed at what he observed. To his astonishment he saw a car stopped at a light. A totally clear intersection. 2:00 am, no one but the refugee in sight, distantly behind. The refugee was perplexed. The car stayed put, following as basic traffic law when breaking it would have caused no harm nor would have it resulted in some form of penalty because getting caught was not possible. The car waited for the light to change before proceeding through. He noted how that would have never happened in his native country.

It seems like such a little thing, but it's a perfect example in explaining why some places are so much different than others.

Yeah - perfect example - it starts with stoplights and lack of littering, but continues with proper non-tribal work-ethic and a somewhat meritocratic system, it goes on with your women not to be harrassed or raped only because they happen to stray from the male chaperone for 100 yards. All civilization markers go down the crapper and then they blame colonialism for their shortcomings. Meanwhile they forget that Korea and Japan were also defeated countries that were imprinted the American/Western system. Korea in the 1950s was poorer than many African colonized countries (even when looking at the wealth metric of black Africans). Somehow White Supremacy and colonialism did not leave them traumatized for decades.

Low-IQ shitizens will not understand why high-IQ Western and Asian countries work so well and will deny any of the real facts.
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(08-09-2019 02:06 AM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 11:32 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < Jeez - so your only metric is abortion? Wow - plenty of wonderful utopias for you out there - primitive bushmen tribes, African countries with 6+ surviving kids etc. Enjoy living in subsaharan Africa. "Liberal hellhole" - buddy - so long as the demographics remain, then it's still a high-IQ order-loving country and similar like communism - it can survive even liberalism. Japan with a lower population of 60 mio. will still be Japan. Germany while being 30% native won't be German and neither will the US be Anglo-saxon founded USA. Iceland without 3rd world migration will still be Iceland and the future generations might move towards conservativsm. Taking upon only abortion and top-down promoted feminism as all civilization markers is insane. By that measure then China, Japan, Taiwan are all hellholes and only some real shithole countries are utopias.

I remember reading or hearing an account of a refugee living in Denmark (or some similar place).

He was on a desolate stretch of road late into the night and was amazed at what he observed. To his astonishment he saw a car stopped at a light. A totally clear intersection. 2:00 am, no one but the refugee in sight, distantly behind. The refugee was perplexed. The car stayed put, following as basic traffic law when breaking it would have caused no harm nor would have it resulted in some form of penalty because getting caught was not possible. The car waited for the light to change before proceeding through. He noted how that would have never happened in his native country.

It seems like such a little thing, but it's a perfect example in explaining why some places are so much different than others.

That refugee wss probably thinking "Damn I just came from somewhere that they chop my arms off so I can't vote, and now I gotta wait in the middle of nowhere that should be Germany if it weren't for America because I'll get a ticket from a camera."

It's all relative.

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Seen on Gab:

Quote:The ruling elite desire a future where the only way you move around your country is via public transportation, and the only protein you get in your diet is via soy and insects.

It’s not because they care about the environment - they just hate you.

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Agenda 21 plans to have only private car ownership for the uber-wealthy by 2060. The useless eaters will be allowed to rent cars and of course that will become ever more expernsive as well. As for the soy-insect protein - that is true as well. Veganism does not work and makes you sick long-term, so insect steak will likely become the norm. But I doubt even that is healthy - most people will likely die around age 60-65 and the elite will be all puzzled about it and blame too much insect-steaks.
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Picking up some wings for the game. Inside, family of five, all daughters. One sharp dressed foreigner and his chubby tall wife. She starts complaining that wings take 20 mins to cook, father walks outside to smoke. Funny af.
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https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-...0098d16ff1

Fascinating article about how lazy millineal tradesmen are in Australia, compared to foreign workers.

Some quotes from it:
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Young Aussies are turning their backs on jobs with salaries of up to $17,000 a week because they’re too lazy to put in the hard yards.

That’s according to Sydney man Ryan Graham, who has owned a commercial flooring company for around 10 years.

He said young Australians were abandoning lucrative trades altogether, while the few who did apply for roles regularly quit soon after starting.

The problem has become so widespread the 42-year-old has sponsored foreigners to fill roles in the past.


But he said a government clampdown on the sponsorship of foreigners for his trade had left him in the lurch.

"Everyone you see on a job site is Brazilian or English or Irish or Argentinian — they just love working,” he said.

“People complain that foreign workers are taking Australian jobs … but we’ve had 15 guys over the last two years that haven’t lasted more than a week. I interviewed one guy for an hour who was there for 10 minutes before he walked off the job.


“Australians don’t want the job, they would rather do something easy.”


He said the “massive problem” — which affected all trades in the country — was so severe he often didn’t bother to advertise for vacant roles as he knew there would be little interest from local jobseekers.

“Now, no one wants to work hard. Growing up I’d be working six or seven days a week for 20 years. Obviously, that’s an extreme case but back then people were proud to have a trade — and the reality is carpet and vinyl laying is the highest-paid trade in Australia.

“The older workers who aren’t working as hard would make an average of $3000 to $4000 a week but if you want to get in there and work hard, younger guys can average $7000 to $8000 a week. It is hard work but who wouldn’t want to work hard for that?”

He said he knew of one contractor who, on good weeks, made $17,000 between him and his apprentice, who probably took home around $1000 of that cash.

The problem is young guys see that and want $17,000 straight away, but you’ve got to work three to five years to be able to make that money,” he said.

He said he believed the lack of work ethic was the result of upbringing


Some of them don’t even last two hours — they just walk off the job and don’t even bother saying anything, and you never see them again,” he said.



The 55-year-old said the vast majority of labourers on building sites were now people from overseas on working holidays.

There’s plenty of room to move up the ladder. If you put in the hard yards for four or five years, you’ll be making big money if you’re smart enough,” he said.

And it seems Mr Doughty and Mr Graham aren’t alone.

This week, a new Department of Employment survey revealed 45 per cent of Australian employers struggled to recruit staff in 2018.

Around 60 per cent of employers trying to fill lower-skilled positions reported issues such as a lack of qualified or experienced applicants, jobseekers who were “not interested in the occupation or work conditions” and those lacking “employability” and “personal presentation” skills.

“We have an economy of opportunity and employers are screaming out for workers who are eager for a job,” employment minister Michaelia Cash said in a statement on Monday.
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^The article states that salaries are up to $17,000/week but then goes onto say that it’s contractors who are making that much, less the cost of the apprentice’s pay. I assume that the contractors are doing residential/commercial work where they have to find the work and bid the job, so not salaried employees on 17K/week. All the same I heard that wages are pretty high in Oz and the locals are notoriously lazy cunts. Us Canucks aren’t much better though, anytime I work with a Brit or an Irishman I have to tell them to slow the fuck down and stop working so hard.

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I keep hearing how foreigners (asians usually) have such a great work ethic. They just love to work, while aussies are just such loafers...or so the trope goes.

When you actually work with them though, the narrative falls apart. While they do tend to work a bit longer hours, they dont actually accomplish anything extra. Not surprising given they spend more time than most smoking and/or playing on their phone. Their "work ethic" seems to actually be more of an overtime-milking ethic.
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(08-11-2019 09:33 PM)king bast Wrote:  I keep hearing how foreigners (asians usually) have such a great work ethic. They just love to work, while aussies are just such loafers...or so the trope goes.

When you actually work with them though, the narrative falls apart. While they do tend to work a bit longer hours, they dont actually accomplish anything extra. Not surprising given they spend more time than most smoking and/or playing on their phone. Their "work ethic" seems to actually be more of an overtime-milking ethic.

I am very very doubtful of all those articles which claim that the laziness of the locals is forcing the innocent dindu globo-homos to import millions of 3rd worlders in order to bring home the qualified workers.

While it's true that there are shortages in some trades, it's hardly a real problem. If it were a 120k/year trade, then lots of young men would pick up those jobs - heck - some might even do the tradeschool after having gotten a useless college degree as it began to happen in some countries.

A nation could also easily attract attention of younger people towards that as sometimes education is needed to fill in a gap - it's not as if the market is always right all the time - government can react. But the way those sheisters do is to import shitizens all the time - that's their end-goal solution. Obviously both Australia and Canada can also attract educated blokes from European-descended countries, but they usually don't like to do that. Better to take in those qualified Somalis who will use tools only to hit you over the head.
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Millennials are either consciously or subconsciously responding to the cultural rot of money worship. You'd have to be blind not to see on some level that the mindless pursuit of money for its own sake (or rather the sake of your "lifestyle") is a disgusting social disease. No community (except LGBT freaks). No religion. No dominant ethos or ethnicity (again, other than globohomo).

Make tons of money working your fingers to the bone, pay half of it in tax so the Africans that robbed your house last week can get their welfare. And for all that you're not even entitled to voice your opinion about it. Grow up alone because mum and dad are both working to pay off the McMansion, the two new cars and the caravan that never gets used because they can't get leave on the same week, but "couldn't afford" to have a second or third kid so you don't even know what it's like to have a brother or a sister.

Little wonder they don't want to become soul-less wage slaves like the idiots that came before them.

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(08-11-2019 08:31 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-...0098d16ff1

Fascinating article about how lazy millineal tradesmen are in Australia, compared to foreign workers.

Some quotes from it:
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Young Aussies are turning their backs on jobs with salaries of up to $17,000 a week because they’re too lazy to put in the hard yards.

That’s according to Sydney man Ryan Graham, who has owned a commercial flooring company for around 10 years.

He said young Australians were abandoning lucrative trades altogether, while the few who did apply for roles regularly quit soon after starting.

The problem has become so widespread the 42-year-old has sponsored foreigners to fill roles in the past.


But he said a government clampdown on the sponsorship of foreigners for his trade had left him in the lurch.

"Everyone you see on a job site is Brazilian or English or Irish or Argentinian — they just love working,” he said.

“People complain that foreign workers are taking Australian jobs … but we’ve had 15 guys over the last two years that haven’t lasted more than a week. I interviewed one guy for an hour who was there for 10 minutes before he walked off the job.


“Australians don’t want the job, they would rather do something easy.”


He said the “massive problem” — which affected all trades in the country — was so severe he often didn’t bother to advertise for vacant roles as he knew there would be little interest from local jobseekers.

“Now, no one wants to work hard. Growing up I’d be working six or seven days a week for 20 years. Obviously, that’s an extreme case but back then people were proud to have a trade — and the reality is carpet and vinyl laying is the highest-paid trade in Australia.

“The older workers who aren’t working as hard would make an average of $3000 to $4000 a week but if you want to get in there and work hard, younger guys can average $7000 to $8000 a week. It is hard work but who wouldn’t want to work hard for that?”

He said he knew of one contractor who, on good weeks, made $17,000 between him and his apprentice, who probably took home around $1000 of that cash.

The problem is young guys see that and want $17,000 straight away, but you’ve got to work three to five years to be able to make that money,” he said.

He said he believed the lack of work ethic was the result of upbringing


Some of them don’t even last two hours — they just walk off the job and don’t even bother saying anything, and you never see them again,” he said.



The 55-year-old said the vast majority of labourers on building sites were now people from overseas on working holidays.

There’s plenty of room to move up the ladder. If you put in the hard yards for four or five years, you’ll be making big money if you’re smart enough,” he said.

And it seems Mr Doughty and Mr Graham aren’t alone.

This week, a new Department of Employment survey revealed 45 per cent of Australian employers struggled to recruit staff in 2018.

Around 60 per cent of employers trying to fill lower-skilled positions reported issues such as a lack of qualified or experienced applicants, jobseekers who were “not interested in the occupation or work conditions” and those lacking “employability” and “personal presentation” skills.

“We have an economy of opportunity and employers are screaming out for workers who are eager for a job,” employment minister Michaelia Cash said in a statement on Monday.
Absolute bullshit. For a start the trades we are short of are the technical trades for instance electricians, plumbers, traditional carpenters (not the cowboys with a battery drill and hammer) etc.

I find foreign building workers no different to local Aussis. Good and bad in both.

Biggest problem in Australia is parents and school advisers pushing the go to uni crap as if you don't need brains to be a skilled tradie.

For overseas people don't for a second believe those figures from the carpet layer.

I'd say for a qualified tradie good at what they do expect to earn say $2-$2.5 K a week with a bit of overtime. That's pretty good as you get holiday pay etc as well.
Say you wan't to work on contract on hourly rate (no holiday pay etc) work on about $60-65 an hour if you're good and in a bigger city . Won't make you rich but pretty good money.
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That photo makes me want to bite the shit out of something.

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The false dichotomy that we are being herded towards:




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(08-11-2019 09:33 PM)king bast Wrote:  I keep hearing how foreigners (asians usually) have such a great work ethic. They just love to work, while aussies are just such loafers...or so the trope goes.

When you actually work with them though, the narrative falls apart. While they do tend to work a bit longer hours, they dont actually accomplish anything extra. Not surprising given they spend more time than most smoking and/or playing on their phone. Their "work ethic" seems to actually be more of an overtime-milking ethic.

I was a houseflipper from 2016-2018. I was amazed at the ambition and creativity of one Chinese builder I employed. I just employed him to do up the backyard, but he started telling me all the things he would've done with the apartment I was flipping, and how it would raise the market value.

He made the guys I was previously working with look insipid.
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You say you once met a chinese guy who wasnt entirely useless? Wow. I take back everything i said.
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(08-10-2019 05:59 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  This is the most creepy photo I have seen so far. I am literally getting chills down my spine now.

(08-12-2019 04:17 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  That photo makes me want to bite the shit out of something.


The Channel Zero TV series is a different level of horror / thriller than most.
While the quality of story varies from each season to season.
It's more 'creepy' / psychological horror than mere gore nonsense.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4820370/?re...f_=nv_sr_1

Tough to acquire some of the episodes via Torrents though.
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(08-12-2019 07:21 AM)king bast Wrote:  You say you once met a chinese guy who wasnt entirely useless? Wow. I take back everything i said.

Yes, it's entirely reasonable to assume that the other Chinese who are taking over the entire property market in the city are as obsolete as cock flavoured lollipops.
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(08-12-2019 07:31 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  
(08-10-2019 05:59 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  This is the most creepy photo I have seen so far. I am literally getting chills down my spine now.

(08-12-2019 04:17 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  That photo makes me want to bite the shit out of something.


The Channel Zero TV series is a different level of horror / thriller than most.
While the quality of story varies from each season to season.
It's more 'creepy' / psychological horror than mere gore nonsense.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4820370/?re...f_=nv_sr_1

Tough to acquire some of the episodes via Torrents though.

Interesting. The horror that really gets me are faceless beings or mouthless red eyes glowing in the dark.

I remember having a nightmare being thrown about in a room and everywhere is locked with no way out. Even the blinds are pulled permanently and cannot be opened or being pulled towards a black place.
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(08-12-2019 01:45 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Millennials are either consciously or subconsciously responding to the cultural rot of money worship. You'd have to be blind not to see on some level that the mindless pursuit of money for its own sake (or rather the sake of your "lifestyle") is a disgusting social disease. No community (except LGBT freaks). No religion. No dominant ethos or ethnicity (again, other than globohomo).

Make tons of money working your fingers to the bone, pay half of it in tax so the Africans that robbed your house last week can get their welfare. And for all that you're not even entitled to voice your opinion about it. Grow up alone because mum and dad are both working to pay off the McMansion, the two new cars and the caravan that never gets used because they can't get leave on the same week, but "couldn't afford" to have a second or third kid so you don't even know what it's like to have a brother or a sister.

Little wonder they don't want to become soul-less wage slaves like the idiots that came before them.

I don't have such a rosy view, being the same age and knowing many of them (at least in the city). Sure they don't want to be wage slaves like their parents, but they aspire to all the McLife crap minus the marriage and children, they just think they are entitled to it as opposed to having to work for it. They have this cognitive dissonant view about everything: LGBT are oppressed yet supported by all corporations; they care about the environment but damned if they are going to clean up their own rooms, etc. Most of them work as little as possible just to pay for vacations and 'events'.

Don't see this as a defense of the boomers or gen xers, but urbanite millenials are lazy as ****, in general. I know exceptions who work to the bone, and especially try to build something, either through their actual work or as side hustles, but they are just confirming the rule. The ones who wage-slave end up being like their parents: whenever they aren't attending some festival or travelling abroad they melt into the couch as soon as they get home. If they have children, they let electronics rear them (that Netflix ain't gonna watch itself and giving attention to their kids during their most important years is just a drag). They have nothing going on for them outside of entertainment. It's pathetic. Then they have the nerve to give my wife crap for staying at home and having multiple projects - because working in a call center part time is so demanding right?

Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.
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(08-12-2019 03:05 AM)Matt Warner Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 08:31 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-...0098d16ff1

Fascinating article about how lazy millineal tradesmen are in Australia, compared to foreign workers.

Some quotes from it:
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Young Aussies are turning their backs on jobs with salaries of up to $17,000 a week because they’re too lazy to put in the hard yards.

That’s according to Sydney man Ryan Graham, who has owned a commercial flooring company for around 10 years.

He said young Australians were abandoning lucrative trades altogether, while the few who did apply for roles regularly quit soon after starting.

The problem has become so widespread the 42-year-old has sponsored foreigners to fill roles in the past.


But he said a government clampdown on the sponsorship of foreigners for his trade had left him in the lurch.

"Everyone you see on a job site is Brazilian or English or Irish or Argentinian — they just love working,” he said.

“People complain that foreign workers are taking Australian jobs … but we’ve had 15 guys over the last two years that haven’t lasted more than a week. I interviewed one guy for an hour who was there for 10 minutes before he walked off the job.


“Australians don’t want the job, they would rather do something easy.”


He said the “massive problem” — which affected all trades in the country — was so severe he often didn’t bother to advertise for vacant roles as he knew there would be little interest from local jobseekers.

“Now, no one wants to work hard. Growing up I’d be working six or seven days a week for 20 years. Obviously, that’s an extreme case but back then people were proud to have a trade — and the reality is carpet and vinyl laying is the highest-paid trade in Australia.

“The older workers who aren’t working as hard would make an average of $3000 to $4000 a week but if you want to get in there and work hard, younger guys can average $7000 to $8000 a week. It is hard work but who wouldn’t want to work hard for that?”

He said he knew of one contractor who, on good weeks, made $17,000 between him and his apprentice, who probably took home around $1000 of that cash.

The problem is young guys see that and want $17,000 straight away, but you’ve got to work three to five years to be able to make that money,” he said.

He said he believed the lack of work ethic was the result of upbringing


Some of them don’t even last two hours — they just walk off the job and don’t even bother saying anything, and you never see them again,” he said.



The 55-year-old said the vast majority of labourers on building sites were now people from overseas on working holidays.

There’s plenty of room to move up the ladder. If you put in the hard yards for four or five years, you’ll be making big money if you’re smart enough,” he said.

And it seems Mr Doughty and Mr Graham aren’t alone.

This week, a new Department of Employment survey revealed 45 per cent of Australian employers struggled to recruit staff in 2018.

Around 60 per cent of employers trying to fill lower-skilled positions reported issues such as a lack of qualified or experienced applicants, jobseekers who were “not interested in the occupation or work conditions” and those lacking “employability” and “personal presentation” skills.

“We have an economy of opportunity and employers are screaming out for workers who are eager for a job,” employment minister Michaelia Cash said in a statement on Monday.
Absolute bullshit. For a start the trades we are short of are the technical trades for instance electricians, plumbers, traditional carpenters (not the cowboys with a battery drill and hammer) etc.

I find foreign building workers no different to local Aussis. Good and bad in both.

Biggest problem in Australia is parents and school advisers pushing the go to uni crap as if you don't need brains to be a skilled tradie.

For overseas people don't for a second believe those figures from the carpet layer.

I'd say for a qualified tradie good at what they do expect to earn say $2-$2.5 K a week with a bit of overtime. That's pretty good as you get holiday pay etc as well.
Say you wan't to work on contract on hourly rate (no holiday pay etc) work on about $60-65 an hour if you're good and in a bigger city . Won't make you rich but pretty good money.

Yeah, be careful what you hear in the Australian media. If you Google Ryan Graham's business you find that he's been interviewed in the media before - as a representative of small business owners in Scott Morrison's, i.e., the Prime Minister's, electorate. Can't find any reviews from employees of his business floating around, but this smells like a guy who contributes a lot to his local Liberal Party branch and is likely the guy they wheel out whenever they need to snot the unions. I would not be surprised if one dug around and found a few employees that have a rather different view of their experiences being his workers.

Even allowing for millennial laziness, I've learned to get cautious of fuckers in the media saying that young people don't work hard enough. What it not-uncommonly means is that young people who are Australian citizens won't take the illegal shit their employers demand they do -- unlike foreign workers whose continued residence in Australia depends on them bending over and taking it up the arse from the employer who "sponsored" them out here. We can debate the merits of award or minimum wages, sure, but Australian culture for decades if not the better part of a hundred years has rested on the back of a man not being worked into the fucking grave. That's a conservative standard as well and it is under relentless attack, not least of which via business that wants you doing nothing but producing or consuming - because if they give you enough time to think, you start asking yourself what your real hourly rate is.

Australian farmers -- not subsistence farmers or blokes on a couple of acres, we're talking big business fruit growers -- are fucking known for this. Even allowing for the fact farming's hard work, they are known for working the guts out of young blokes or young tourists during the picking seasons. It's why female backpackers out picking fruit not infrequently get fingered or raped, I'm talking real rape, not fucking leading an old farmer on. It was slaveconditions that sent two young jackaroos named James Annetts and Simon Amos off unprepared into the fucking outback off the brutal cattle station they were working on and perished. They were 16 and 17 years old. A close family member of mine worked for farmers when he was young and itinerant, decades before this. He was no softie, he'd grown up on a farm and run 6km to school through the bush after milking a few dozen cows in the morning. Even allowing for that, the experience of working for farmers left him with an abiding distrust of the bastards: "Poor old cocky, down to his last Rolls Royce."

You've got to remember, every time the immigration party starts, it is always fucking business that has pushed for it - because you can always find a man desperate enough to do for a dollar what a citizen knows is illegal to do for less than $10. Japan, most racist country on Earth, has recently started importing low-skilled shitheels to fill the jobs it "can't" "get" its nationals to do. That in microcosm is what has been done to the West for the past 30 years, and now Japan is finally on the verge of succumbing too.

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Yeah, but if you don't suck up toxic glue fumes for 9 hours a day at 1k a week while your boss sits in his ute for the other 16k then you're just lazy.

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