“If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife”

I think it's about a balance between looks and personality.

You want someone who is attractive to you but not a model esque 10/10 as the majority of those type of women are already in relationships.

So if one can find a woman who is slightly better looking than average (a 6/10 or a 7/10) and has good values and a good relationship with her family (her father in particular) then she would be considered a worthy prospect.

The problem is that even women who are less than average attractiveness (a 4/10) have their attitudes so gassed up from all the social media and real life attention that they are unpleasant to talk to.

They know men have never been so thirsty in any other era and so they take undue advantage of the situation.

If a Unicorn stumbles your way. Its best not to refuse. But otherwise statistically your advice is sound.
 

Joe316

Robin
So if one can find a woman who is slightly better looking than average (a 6/10 or a 7/10) and has good values and a good relationship with her family (her father in particular) then she would be considered a worthy prospect.

The problem is that even women who are less than average attractiveness (a 4/10) have their attitudes so gassed up from all the social media and real life attention that they are unpleasant to talk to.

My own experience is that the more attractive a woman is, the more pleasant she is to talk to, while the sought after average "girl next door" is the hardest to approach and to keep entertained. Of course the more attractive women come with much more red flags.
 

Tytalus

Pelican
There was an old thread about this

There are a good handful of men on here who would rather marry an ugly woman and not have to worry about them cheating. I think that's a cop out, but to each their own.

When I was a university student in the public computer lab... I remember this tall average-ish dude arguing with his butt ugly GF to admit she was cheating on him. Cheaters gonna cheat.
 

Peter6590

Chicken
While I somewhat agree with the general consensus (10/10 women are "harder" to keep and <7/10 girls are safer), the reality is always nuanced as it follows:

I believe that for every 10/10, great-looking woman out there, there is atleast a man that is bored of having intercourse with her. I think the insecurity of men regarding them stems from the fact that they are believed to be harder to conquer. In many cases though, this isn't true. Many of them have fragile egos because of past failed relationships, deceivings, self-perception problems ect.

On the other hand, nowadays there are droves of men with absolutely no female experience and no standards whatsoever who choose to pay loads of cash on OnlyFans or pornography with sub-mediocre women. Also, less attractive women can also be more motivated to accept flirting from other men simply because this isn't a common thing for them, their desire being to raise their ego, to "prove themselves worthy".

That being said, while the notch count matters to some extent (the good-looking women having, on average, a greater number of partners in the past) I think the most important thing is the character and education of the woman.

There will always be "hot" women faithful to their husbands and "ugly" women ready to have sex with any man available.

On top of that, looks are deceiving and temporary. A smart woman would know that the best time to find yourself a worthy partner is while being young, at your peak. In that case, a beautiful, smart woman would try to build a lasting marriage with the best man they can find. Mediocre/sub-mediocre women try to settle, in general, with what they're being offered. Sometimes, they find out that there's "room for improvement" and lead to the destruction of relationships and marriages.

Unfortunately, the society nowadays is intensely promoting single life until mid-30's but a worthy woman should not fall into that trap. So, in my opinion, instead of searching for a woman based on her age, I think it's the age that matters. Of course, on the road there can be setbacks or even red flags that disqualify a woman but there's no other way getting to know her better.

That being said, I think you can be happy with ANY woman, as long as she's young enough not to be "damaged" by multiple past relationships, the chronicization of newly-imposed societal "values" or the desperation to find any willingful guy, not the right one.
 

Uzisuicide

Woodpecker
Gold Member
In my experience the irritation factor you will experience with a woman is directly congruent with her attractiveness. Mostly due to other men in their orbit falling all over themselves to get with her. I've walked away from my last three gorgeous women because I couldn't take it any anymore. If you want to keep a hot girl from straying then you have to tell her no when she comes up with ridiculous demands! Good old fashioned frame. But eventually you'll walk.
 

JimMike

Chicken
Re: pretty women = less faithful: I've dealt with conflict and discipline issues in a large organization for about 25 years. in the last 6 years, I've dealt with 9 crisis precipitated by women cheating on their husbands. (Interestingly, I've not personally dealt with any husbands cheating on wives in the last decade. That was much more common 30 years ago.) I don't have particularly high standards but every unfaithful wife I've dealt with was below average in the looks department. And some were quite below average. I mean at the very bottom of the scale. Also, I would rate several of the cheated-on husbands as being more attractive than the unfaithful wife.
 
The thirst is insane today, so a number of women who would have been an "ugly woman" according to that song are probably in high demand today and can run an OnlyFans. A Plain Jane 5, or maybe even a 6, is probably who he was talking about.

Someone these days who qualifies as "ugly enough to be no trouble" is probably a 4 or under. Call me shallow, but I'd rather be single then marry someone that profoundly unattractive.

It just amazes me what women can accomplish with the adept application of make-up. I've seen women who I swore were a rock solid 8, but without their make-up they were actually just barely a five.
 
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