1 Year Drinking Wagon Challenge for 2014

Beyond Borders

Peacock
Gold Member
Two things.

Make your last drink taste like shit. You've got to get out of the mindset that you're making a sacrifice. If you're giving it up completely, I imagine it hasn't been that good to you, so why convince yourself you're saying goodbye to an old friend?

For your last drink, buy a tall glass of the foulest-tasting shit you can imagine and drink it neat, slowly, forcing yourself to taste it for what it really is. Think of it as a poison as you drink it (that's essentially what it is and why it has the effects it does).

Second, don't substitute with other types of drinks when you go out. It's not normal to drink constantly without stopping - we only do that because alcohol is dehydrating and addicting at once, causing us to get thirstier as we drink it. And once again, you don't want to give yourself the idea that you're sacrificing something.

Order a water or coke or whatever if you're thirsty. But once you're done being thirsty, stop. You wouldn't walk around with a fork in your mouth all night, would you?

I know I've pushed it a dozen times already, but read this before you get started to get yourself in the right mindset. http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-E...TF8&qid=1385954955&sr=8-5&keywords=allen+carr I'm not saying all of you are going to fail, but your success rate will go up drastically if you check it out.

I'm glad some of you other guys are hopping on board now too. Will be like having a network of non-drinkers without hanging out with a bunch of dorks at AA.
 

MidniteSpecial

Ostrich
Gold Member
I just got back from a nice dinner with friends on the Hudson River. Had a big pitcher of Sangria me and a girl split. Walked out of their feeling great.

This would be to hard for me. I need some incentive/motivation.
 

The Lizard of Oz

Crow
Gold Member
Pyre, great to have you on board. I hope you can also use this thread to post updates from time to time.

I think it's a good idea for everyone who gets on board to post their exact starting date for the record, like cardguy did.

I'll post mine, though it's old news at this point. The last day I had a drink was February 12, 2007.
 

MidniteSpecial

Ostrich
Gold Member
Damn. I really do want to try this I want to try this lizard. What are some of the pros you have noticed since being alcholol free? Maybe I will do the whole month of December to start.
 

Beyond Borders

Peacock
Gold Member
My stop date was Sept 11, of this year (coincidence lol).

I actually stopped about a week or so before that because I was feeling like shit but made that the day for my last drink ritual.
 

The Lizard of Oz

Crow
Gold Member
MidniteSpecial,

The single biggest pro that I've noticed over time is this sense of increased interest in and attention to the simple things of everyday life. Like literally chuckling at some random shit I see on the street, or being completely riveted by something I read in the Travel section of the forum about a place I will probably never go to (but who knows?).

It's something that I found is dulled over time, and by degrees, in people who are serious drinkers. They become people who can only experience -- diminishing -- enthusiasm when drinks are involved but are otherwise more and more jaded and indifferent to all sorts of things in life. It's an evil process because it happens slowly and it's usually attributed to other things, like "just getting older" or "just the way life goes". But after I gave up drinking, I realized that it was the alcohol, not these other excuses, that was really doing it.

That's the biggest benefit which comes over time -- it probably takes the better part of a year to kick in so it requires some patience. But it's worth the wait.

Other things that can kick in sooner:

-- Higher libido. Like literally thinking about fucking and pussy twice as much as one used to when drinking regularly. It's crazy how much hard drinking kills libido over time.

-- Staying in better shape, keeping off excess weight, training harder. Pretty self explanatory. Hard training and hard drinking can go hand in hand when you're very young, as in early to mid twenties. After that they pretty much part ways, unless you're a genetic freak.

-- Staying young. I look about 8-10 years younger than my age, according to what other people say. That's good genes, sure, but I wouldn't get the benefit of those good genes if I was still drinking. Guys that I know who've kept drinking have aged pretty badly. Someone I knew who kept drinking hard looked like he aged about 10 years in a 2-3 year period. Guys' faces get bloated and there is a weird softness to them sometimes.

-- Saving money. Like cardguy noted, alcohol isn't cheap, especially if you buy it in bars. That's money you can spend on other things in your life.

I think that if you try it you'll thank yourself as time goes on. I found it fascinating to observe all the changes that come with not drinking -- some of them are not even easy to describe and are just something that you have to experience for yourself.
 

Atlantic

Ostrich
Gold Member
Ya Im in too.

My old man quit cold turkey when he was around my age and he is now a beast. Razor sharp social skills, fit as an ox, tonnes of energy. Nearly 60 and he can run, lift and work all day. He looks years younger then his brother (a big drinker) who is actually ten years younger then he is.
 

WestCoast

Hummingbird
Gold Member
You guys are impressive with zero alcohol. Couple drinks a week isn't bad IMHO. Always go a month or so here and there with no booze to detox the body. The liver turns over in 30 days.

Don't know why anyone would booze without chicks in the mix, that just seems like a waste of both time and money.
 
I havent had a drink in almost 5 years.

I can tell you that it will likely be harder for you if you are thinking about it just being one year. The best way to do it, as cheesy as it sounds, is to just do it for each day every day and to see what happens. If you are thinking 364 more days until I can have a drink, it'll be impossible.

I came up in the game completely sober. I've been out on countless dates sober. I've banged countless chicks sober. Been to many bars, clubs, everything - sober. It is easy.

One thing you'll realize is that not everyone gets wasted.

Most chicks don't get wasted. And most chicks will happily either have just one glass of wine or none at all if you're not having anything.

When people ask me why I don't drink I just say "I'm retired, I'm in the hall of fame"

They laugh at that, alludes to bad boy past and gives them comfort that I'm not a bad boy now. Best of both worlds.

I'd be happy to share any other tips or answer questions anyone might have. Quitting drinking was the best thing I ever did for myself because it lead to so many other things like becoming an accomplished combat athlete, getting my power lifting total over 1200, being in great shape, having more money for clothes and lifestyle, more focus at work, better relationships with friends and family, and of course - not doing stupid as shit you regret later.

I assure you, anything you can do drunk, you can do better sober. Anything.
 

Bill

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I don´t drink at all and never drank though I worked in the beer capital of the world in the brewery industry in bavaria.I want to support you guys. It´s probably very hard doing this. I think it´s worth it.
 

WestCoast

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Yeah hats off to you guys. I wish there was a way to do this if I could get my mind in full retard mode like a 21 y/o girl dead sober I'd be in much better shape.

This year was all about drinking less, no black out nights, no real issues drinking this year. Huge upgrade from last year when I'd over drink 1-2x every 3 months or so.

2-3 drinks and I'm buzzing and good to go. To decrease my drinking I'm doing more day game as well. Online game is a 100% bust as I've literally gotten zero traction even after following rules on this forum so it's all about the cold approach.

Will try to take down drinking again next year.
 
I have to recommend Beyond Border's post and the book he suggested.

Long story short: I've always struggled with drinking. Always had a hard time controlling it and honestly I wasn't a pleasant drunk. I was a real angry drunk. I knew it was bound to happen and it did a few months ago: got drunk, got angry, was stupid, fucked myself up bad and had to get surgery.

Read Allen Carr's book. Changed life. I've been sober since I fucked myself up. I don't count days. I don't take it a day at a time. I just don't want to drink alcohol anymore.

Mad props to people that can withhold the urge to drink for 365 days. That takes a damn high amount of willpower. Personally, I wouldn't be able to do it. I'd probably break down after a few months. Though I'm confident now I'll never drink again, thanks to BB's recommendation.

I'll reiterate what BB's said so many times: if you want to stop drinking altogether, read that book. Heck, even if you don't, I'd still read it. It'll probably make the 1 year abstinence significantly easier.
 

Beyond Borders

Peacock
Gold Member
Genghis Khan said:
I have to recommend Beyond Border's post and the book he suggested.

Long story short: I've always struggled with drinking. Always had a hard time controlling it and honestly I wasn't a pleasant drunk. I was a real angry drunk. I knew it was bound to happen and it did a few months ago: got drunk, got angry, was stupid, fucked myself up bad and had to get surgery.

Sounds like we have a similar past. I was also an angry drunk. The last time I lost it I ended up with a compound fracture in my hand - bone sticking out the back. Doctor botched the surgery so now my hand is still all fucked up looking and can't close a full fist.

And still kept drinking....

Probably would have happened again at some point if I hadn't quit later out of the blue. I could control the anger on most ocaissions but enough times getting shitfaced and eventually something or someone was going to push me over the edge and leave me waking up in regret.

Read Allen Carr's book. Changed life. I've been sober since I fucked myself up. I don't count days. I don't take it a day at a time. I just don't want to drink alcohol anymore.

This exactly. There's no trying once your mind is changed. It's just the way things are.

Mad props to people that can withhold the urge to drink for 365 days. That takes a damn high amount of willpower. Personally, I wouldn't be able to do it. I'd probably break down after a few months. Though I'm confident now I'll never drink again, thanks to BB's recommendation.

I'll reiterate what BB's said so many times: if you want to stop drinking altogether, read that book. Heck, even if you don't, I'd still read it. It'll probably make the 1 year abstinence significantly easier.

Glad to hear my repeating it over and over again didn't fall on deaf ears.

Congrats to you, bro. It sounds like we were having some of the same problems, and while I'm not that far ahead of you, I'll tell you that so far things just keep getting better. PM me some time if you want to talk about the changes it's bringing out in you. I know sometimes you're weary of flapping about it too much because you don't want your friends and fams to think you're trying to convert them or something. lol People are weary enough of teetotalers as it is.

I swear it's a whole red pill of its own.
 
I probably should've stayed out of this thread. Just reminds me how impossible this shit is for me.

I drink myself to sleep nightly. Whiskey. Straight. Been going on for the better part of a decade. I know I need to cut the shit out, and I've tried… but never last long. In the last 5 years, I doubt I've been sober for more than 2 straight days. I know it's killing me. I'm extremely high-functioning. I hold down a director-level position for a large creative firm and am a high-ranking chair member of a pretty influential industry association. I don't lie to myself and pretend that I wouldn't be even more functional if I cut the boozing out.

Any time I try to go a night or two without alcohol to "prove to myself I can do it"… I toss and turn all night, wake up covered in sweat, heart races, and have the most freaky nightmares you can imagine. DTs maybe? I don't know, but yeah, I would probably need some serious in-patient care to pull some shit like this off.

Good luck to those of you who can make this happen. I don't stand a chance. I'm not ready.
 

Bushido

Ostrich
Gold Member
Nice thread. No alcohol for 1 year is a tough challenge. High respect to all who follow through with this.

I've never had a "problem" as such but too much alcohol does spoil my gym gains and work performance. No doubt about it. When I look back, there have been a few periods when I wasn't drinking for a few weeks and felt great.

A question for you guys that don't drink:

How do you run dates without any alcohol? To be honest, I can't imagine a first date without at least a glass of wine or two. It's an integral part of my seducing a girl and making us both relaxed. I tend to take them to a few bars nearby before banging them at my place. Without any alcohol, they tend to keep their legs shut. What is your way of dealing with this?

I'm actually at the point where I can club or go to bars and just drink red bull or green tea. I am fine with gaming sober. Actually I tend to get better results. It's just the dates and work events where I'd have trouble with avoiding at least a drink or two.
 

Kimber

Sparrow
I'm in, like Dreambig i have major concerns that it'll be harder to get girls to fuck but relying on alcohol is probably much worse. I'm still young (25) so i'll do this for 6 months/a year, get my body in order then decide if i want to go back to the drink.

There's a nodrinking reddit for guys that are looking for extra support: http://www.reddit.com/r/stopdrinking/
Seems depressing though - the latest thread was i drank my kids out of a christmas. shit.
 
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