RE: 10 day water fast completed
More "Bro Science" which was also posted in another thread.
More "Bro Science" which was also posted in another thread.
Suits said:Why do the "secret insider health knowledge guys" always avoid answering my simple questions?
Now, the researchers have completed a randomized clinical trial in which 71 people followed the fasting-mimicking diet for 3 months, while volunteers in the control group didn’t change their eating habits. Overall, the dieters lost an average of 2.6 kilograms (5.7 pounds), whereas the control group remained at the same weight, the scientists report online today in Science Translational Medicine. The calorie cutters also saw reductions in blood pressure, body fat, and waist size.
A 3-month trial can’t determine whether the diet increases longevity in people like it did in mice, which rarely survive beyond a couple years. But Longo notes that levels of insulin-like growth factor 1, a hormone that promotes aging in rodents and other lab animals, plunged in the low-cal group. And subjects who were at the highest risk for age-related illnesses also saw other indicators of malfunctioning metabolism go down, such as blood glucose levels and total cholesterol.
n a small study of 71 people, the FMD diet didn't just reduce body weight and body fat, but decreased the body's production of the IGF-1 hormone, which has been implicated in cell processes that lead to aging and disease. The study's subjects also showed a decrease in C-reactive protein — that's notable because it is a marker for inflammation, which in recent years has been implicated in a range of diseases, from heart disease to cancer. The results were published in Science Translational Medicine earlier this year. The Longevity Institute has funding from the National Cancer Institute.
kaotic said:So much bro science and studies being thrown around.
For the guys who do the fasting, what were your stats before and after. I've noticed you guys saying you've done it, to what goals and results?
Did these results last after or did you go back to your previous stats?
Also, this "detox" bullshit - your fucking body does that already.
Kid Twist said:I don't buy the xenobiotic thing stated by Patrick there, mostly because she doesn't really give a reason, just says "It's metabolized by the liver." Yes Rhonda, but they aren't calories, though they may create some, or minimal, energy breakdown. She walks it back a bit later.
Berkhan from Leangains got plenty of results from IF with coffee in the morning (til 12 noon), as long as it doesn't contain milk/sugar/etc excess calories as additives.
Dulceácido said:Is anyone else confused by some of these posts? I'm guilty of posting nonsense, just to be funny, but try to make it serious (Suits, style--so it's more funny), but I can't tell if some of this is real or just someone poking fun at bullshit. The lines have been blurred.
PS, if these are real posts, I'm not trying to pick a fight...
Teutatis said:Food fasting does offer some health benefits, I do 36h and 48h fasts occasionally but I don't see the point of going more than three days. Going on a no water fasting is just stupid, I can't think of any benefit.
Ice Man said:Bain said:I think dry fasts can be quite beneficial
There is no evidence for this whatsoever. There is no benefit to not ingesting fluids.
Guys please do not fuck yourselves up. Broscience is fine when it's harmless like "take cold showers", but not when talking about vital, basic needs.
No one here should be telling guys "dry fasts" are fine or "quite beneficial". I don't care if you supposedly did it for X days, it's retarded, dangerous, with no benefit. If you want to believe shit and advocate for it and kill people via a personal blog then do that, but it shouldn't be spread on a forum where guys are looking for real, factual, healthy advice.
VincentVinturi said:Going beyond 3 days is impractical but I'd be curious how it affects muscle composition and productivity as the loss of those two things are my major concerns on a 3+ day fast.
worldwidetraveler said:Dulceácido said:Is anyone else confused by some of these posts? I'm guilty of posting nonsense, just to be funny, but try to make it serious (Suits, style--so it's more funny), but I can't tell if some of this is real or just someone poking fun at bullshit. The lines have been blurred.
PS, if these are real posts, I'm not trying to pick a fight...
My dick grew one inch for each day I fasted.