100 Hookers AMA

[Sargon of Akkad]

[sigh] My god, you really don't seem to get it.

Oh I've just seen that sargon replied. There is an objective standard, ALMOST ANYONE can pay for sex, not everyone can get laid on skill.

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying, nor does it resemble what I was referring to as 'objectivity'.

I'm not going to keep arguing this, as it isn't going anywhere, and frankly I'm getting tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Vicious]

The fat slob with bacne on the computer can pay for sex. When you pay for sex you're just as good as him. And that hurts your inner game.

Hugh Hefner must be a mental wreck.

 

[Ensam]

Everytime I see these p4p arguments I kind of think it's like someone going on a forum devoted to hunting and telling everybody how much easier it would be to just go down to the meat counter at the local supermarket.

 

[Vicious]

Everytime I see these p4p arguments I kind of think it's like someone going on a forum devoted to hunting and telling everybody how much easier it would be to just go down to the meat counter at the local supermarket.

I don't think anyone is arguing that there's no game involved in p4p. I believe it's just Fisto's statement that p4p would hurt your mentally that's being challenged.

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

I don't think anyone is arguing that there's no game involved in p4p.

Wait, you're saying there's game involved in p4p?????

 

[Duke Castile]

Oh you're going to "sigh"??

And honestly vicious, I'm surprised you use Hefner, a man that has made his living using charm and game to start Playboy as being representative of what we are talking about.

His success and others used to describe how it doesn't really hurt your game is not representative of almost anyone on this forum.

Those men's confidence is bolstered by extreme success in an areas of their life that leads to pussy regardless of whether they pay or not.

Yet many men like this constantly complain and worry about whether a girl just likes him for his money or power blah blah blah

As far as Hefner is concerned, his legal arrangements with women suggest to me that he has accepted that woman only like him for one thing. I'm not sure if that leads to a happy life or not under those circumstances.

Sargon, just curious, what level of game do you rate yourself?

 

[daygamebrah]

Fisto, I respect your opinion, but opinions aren't facts. If you personally would suffer from a self esteem hit by p4p, then don't do it. For those who couldn't care less, you're not going to convince them you're "right." There's no such thing as a right answer. It's 100% personal preference and worldview.

Getting angry at your computer screen cannot change your opinion into a fact.

 

[Virtus]

 

[Duke Castile]

I'm not angry, I'm more just astonished that someone can believe something that is so obviously incongruent. Everyone is free to think as they wish as far as I'm concerned. And thanks for saying that in a respectful manner.

 

[Duke Castile]

But I admit I have extreme views, I also think jacking off is bad for your game.

 

[el mechanico]

I agree with Fisto 100%

P4P is suck shit that really should mess with your head.

You are going out Friday night and then as you're walking out of your house a hooker is in your driveway and says 20 bucks can I come in?

You bang her. Now what? Do you still want to go out? It only lasted a couple minutes it's not like you're eating her pussy and kissing and stuff..or laying around watching tv or making snacks..

 

[eradicator]

For the guys that think p4p is OK, how do you get past knowing that the whores probably have some cum from half a dozen guys in her mouth from earlier in the day? And knowing that they probably have some sort of disease, and if your condom breaks or rolls off, you could catch some STDs, isn't that a boner killer?

The only way I would ever do p4p is if i was famous and had millions of dollars to burn and was old and using some high end call girls, like russian chicks that were perfect looking and cost 10k/night. But even then, if i was rich and famous, I should be able to play fame game and bang supermodels already.

 

[Virtus]

how do you know that the girl you just instadated and kissed at the end of it did not come from giving her restaurant cook fuck buddy a blowie? ever have a lunch quickie with a girl? what if she went and got instadated right on the way back? You never own them. just rent em

 

[Duke Castile]

how do you know that the girl you just instadated and kissed at the end of it did not come from giving her restaurant cook fuck buddy a blowie? ever have a lunch quickie with a girl? what if she went and got instadated right on the way back? You never own them. just rent em

Don't you kind of think whores are more likely to have that than non pros?

 

[Samseau]

Not sure how guys can honestly compare hookers to game.

How is a hooker any different than a fleshlight?

A hooker is nothing more than a sophisticated fleshlight. It gives you cheap orgasms. Sexbots will replace fleshlights in the future. Hookers are no different than sexbots.

Compare this to game, with the mutual feelings of attraction and desire. The amount of pleasure gained from making a woman submit to you is infinitely greater than merely having an orgasm.

I agree that a hooker will give a better orgasm than masturbation. But honestly, it's only because the hooker has a better tool for the job. But if all a man needed was orgasms to be happy, then in theory he should be perfectly satisfied with masturbation.

And yet no amount of masturbation can cure the suffering of the incel. Likewise, hookers cannot take a man's virginity. And there is a reason we feel this way. If there was not so much pleasure in taking a woman and making her your bitch, none of us would be here right now. Far from being a subjective feeling, this is an objective desire created in virtually all straight men which propagates the species.

If there are men who finds paying for sex as pleasurable as seducing for sex, then he is as defective as a gay man.

 

[Acute Angle]

Samseau: Indeed, p4p sex is nowhere near as good as fucking a woman you seduced. But for many it will be somewhat better than using a fleshlight. A whore is a living human being. Okay I've no illusions that she's fucking the john for any other reason than he has money, but it's still a more human experience than a fleshlight. And some people get off on the sordid, illicit side of it. There's nothing transgressive about a lump of silicon ... unless you do it in a shop window. Mannequin game?

I wasn't going to debate more with Fisto on this topic, because clearly we're never going to agree, but I have to address the assertion that all men always should feel ashamed for taking a whore.

Another analogy: A guy has been driving for thirty years. He can parallel park, no problem, done it a thousand times. But one day he's faced with a choice. He can pay a reasonable fee to angle park right now, or he can drive around for ten or more minutes looking for a free parallel parking space. He's in a hurry that day. He has nothing to prove to himself about his parking ability. He pays to angle park. Should he feel ashamed?

 

[worldwidetraveler]

how do you know that the girl you just instadated and kissed at the end of it did not come from giving her restaurant cook fuck buddy a blowie? ever have a lunch quickie with a girl? what if she went and got instadated right on the way back? You never own them. just rent em

Don't you kind of think whores are more likely to have that than non pros?

You would think that just by the fact they would have more partners, but they most likely practice safe sex far more than the average non pro. Look at how many women you raw dogged throughout SEA.

I believe a lot of the places where prostitution is legal will have testing requirements. Who knows how stringent those requirements are enforced.

 

[Vicious]

Fisto, Hefner is one example among many. I could rattle of a list of celebs or power players who are fairly well known users of escorts. I doubt they are losing any sleep over it.

 

[Vicious]

But I admit I have extreme views, I also think jacking off is bad for your game.

I jack off (and nut) over girls now and then. Do I need to stop this? Is it less hurtful to my game if my dick is in contact with her lips while I'm jacking? What if she jacks me off? Does it hurt her game?

 

[worldwidetraveler]

But I admit I have extreme views, I also think jacking off is bad for your game.

I jack off (and nut) over girls now and then. Do I need to stop this? Is it less hurtful to my game if my dick is in contact with her lips while I'm jacking? What if she jacks me off? Does it hurt her game?

Fisto can correct me, but I think he is talking about taking the easy way out and not allowing yourself to improve.

You have to admit, there are plenty of guys who find it easier to pay for sex than to work out, develop game, become interesting, etc...

If those guys worked on themselves to be more attractive, they will end up being much more happier than a guy who settles for the quick and easy solution.

Now, as some of the other guys have said, not all guys that visit prostitutes will be in that category. I do agree with him to a point.