12 kids trapped in Thai Cave Complex
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It's amazing how something basic, like ability to swim that is a basic thing for any western child, is almost a rare superpower in most parts of the world.
West is the best.
We should accuse all Asians and blacks, trying to learn swimming, of cultural appropriation.
As a child I was captivated by the exoticism of East, the more I learn the more I get disappointed in the East and the more I appreciate West.
We should talk about these facts and differences more so that the young generation understand how blessed they are and stop hating their culture like leftists program them to do.
West is the best.
We should accuse all Asians and blacks, trying to learn swimming, of cultural appropriation.
As a child I was captivated by the exoticism of East, the more I learn the more I get disappointed in the East and the more I appreciate West.
We should talk about these facts and differences more so that the young generation understand how blessed they are and stop hating their culture like leftists program them to do.
ChicagoFire
Kingfisher
Heard about this but never fully looked into it. My views on the news is that it's propaganda.
Why can't they send in a remote controlled robot or a drone? Based on what OP says an experienced SEAL already lost his life. I hope everybody can be saved but that doesn't look like it's the case
Why can't they send in a remote controlled robot or a drone? Based on what OP says an experienced SEAL already lost his life. I hope everybody can be saved but that doesn't look like it's the case
ChicagoFire said:Heard about this but never fully looked into it. My views on the news is that it's propaganda.
Why can't they send in a remote controlled robot or a drone? Based on what OP says an experienced SEAL already lost his life. I hope everybody can be saved but that doesn't look like it's the case
Even if such a robot existed, what are you proposing it does, exactly?
Mercenary
Hummingbird
Mercenary
Hummingbird
Dalaran1991
Ostrich
I read the full article but there's several inconsistencies.
First, the dive to reach these kids are so treacherous and small, sometimes you have to put the oxygen tank ahead to dive through. So how the hell are you supplying these kids with water and food?
And if there's a way big enough to get boxes of food and water in there I don't see how a thin kid can't get out the same way.
First, the dive to reach these kids are so treacherous and small, sometimes you have to put the oxygen tank ahead to dive through. So how the hell are you supplying these kids with water and food?
And if there's a way big enough to get boxes of food and water in there I don't see how a thin kid can't get out the same way.
ChicagoFire
Kingfisher
@Saweep
Have them hold on to it while an operator navigates the robot to safety. Will obviously take multiple trips. Just a suggestion...I understand the robot could explode or not fit but I'm just tossing in an idea. The point is it's pretty futile to send in more humans to potentially die. They have robots that detonate bombs right?
@Dalaran
This is why I don't watch the news. Is this some distraction that will quickly go away once certain indiscretions involving high profile people are revealed? To end this on a positive note I wish the kids the best of luck.
Have them hold on to it while an operator navigates the robot to safety. Will obviously take multiple trips. Just a suggestion...I understand the robot could explode or not fit but I'm just tossing in an idea. The point is it's pretty futile to send in more humans to potentially die. They have robots that detonate bombs right?
@Dalaran
This is why I don't watch the news. Is this some distraction that will quickly go away once certain indiscretions involving high profile people are revealed? To end this on a positive note I wish the kids the best of luck.
Jetset
Ostrich
Dalaran1991 said:
The problem isn't that the kids can't fit, it's that none of the kids know how to swim. It's a five-hour swim - at best - that killed an experienced military diver, and they're already exhausted but will be expected to navigate this expert-level escape.
It wasn't full of water when they entered, but now they're trying to pump the water out before the rains come, and that doesn't look good, either.
ChicagoFire said:
I don't know much about cave diving other than it is possibly one of the most dangerous activities known to man.
It's a bloody long way at underwater swimming speeds and there are lots of problems with masks, disorientation, panicking etc etc etc.
I don't think "because they have robots that detonate bombs" is much help here.
This is a race against time; flooding is expected imminently.
If there was a simple, obvious solution, this whole issue would have largely gone by un-noticed.
Mercenary
Hummingbird
The trapped group consists of 12 boys aged 11 to 16, and their 25-year-old football (soccer) coach.
They disappeared after deciding to explore the Tham Luang Nang Non cave in Chiang Rai province following a football game on June 23.
Something about this story stinks to high heaven....why would a coach lead 12 boys many miles into a series of dark caves ?
They disappeared after deciding to explore the Tham Luang Nang Non cave in Chiang Rai province following a football game on June 23.
Something about this story stinks to high heaven....why would a coach lead 12 boys many miles into a series of dark caves ?
Dalaran1991
Ostrich
There are a lot of fishy stuff here. I'm calling bullshit on the pics.
Like nigga for real? You've been trapped in a cave for 12 fucking days in frozen conditions (we have similar cave in Vietnam, and believe me it's freezing cold), with little food nor water, your coach/leader is barely alive, and you are smiling?
Maybe just some staged shots/smile for the camera (and still...) but if it's the case then the news are fucking pathetic. Or these kids are fucking war heroes. I've seen calm, stoic adults break down under much less stress. Shit most people freak the fuck out when they lose internet access.
And then, how the hell are they getting so deep in there in the first place? Supposed the cave wasn't flooded then. What people in their right mind go 1km deep inside underground tunnels where some places go as low as 1m? And how did they even get the words out that they were trapped? Who found them? How?
The omission of details about the beginning of how this happened just seems real fishy to me. Given this is Thailand I'm not surprised if this is smoke and mirror for something else. If so those who stage this are beasts for using children like that.
Like nigga for real? You've been trapped in a cave for 12 fucking days in frozen conditions (we have similar cave in Vietnam, and believe me it's freezing cold), with little food nor water, your coach/leader is barely alive, and you are smiling?
Maybe just some staged shots/smile for the camera (and still...) but if it's the case then the news are fucking pathetic. Or these kids are fucking war heroes. I've seen calm, stoic adults break down under much less stress. Shit most people freak the fuck out when they lose internet access.
And then, how the hell are they getting so deep in there in the first place? Supposed the cave wasn't flooded then. What people in their right mind go 1km deep inside underground tunnels where some places go as low as 1m? And how did they even get the words out that they were trapped? Who found them? How?
The omission of details about the beginning of how this happened just seems real fishy to me. Given this is Thailand I'm not surprised if this is smoke and mirror for something else. If so those who stage this are beasts for using children like that.
Jetset
Ostrich
Dalaran1991 said:
I'd be smiling too if I'd been trapped down there, a rescuer found me, and nobody told me I'm not even close to safety yet. Search operations began after their bicycles were found at the cave entrance.
Mercenary said:
That's the great joy of cave exploration, I guess.
As I understand it, they went in to carve their names on something and then it started raining, so they had to keep going to avoid the rising water.
Could have been worse, check this guy out. You can't go in the cave anymore because he's still in it:
EDIT: No announcement yet, but seems to be a consensus forming that they're going to try to swim the kids out urgently.
Rainy season in Asia is no joke. Surprise typhoons, this shit, flash floods out of nowhere. Asians cannot swim to save their lives making you wonder how could people that live in an area like these avoid swimming all their lives.
Looking at these infographs I would just give up. I think I am too claustrophobic to crawl through some shit like this, especially with water in it. I feel like I am suffocating from looking at those photos of John that Jetset posted. YECH!
Youth, poor judgement, a lack of skills, bad luck, and testosterone is one hell of a combo fellas.
Looking at these infographs I would just give up. I think I am too claustrophobic to crawl through some shit like this, especially with water in it. I feel like I am suffocating from looking at those photos of John that Jetset posted. YECH!
Youth, poor judgement, a lack of skills, bad luck, and testosterone is one hell of a combo fellas.
How did the kids get down there? That doesn't seem to be strange to anyone?
*find dangerous cave*
*take a bunch of young, twitchy kids*
*cave floods with no escape*
*inexplicably forget it was rainy season*
I really don't fucking get it. Is this one of those "you need to be thai to understand" things?
*find dangerous cave*
*take a bunch of young, twitchy kids*
*cave floods with no escape*
*inexplicably forget it was rainy season*
I really don't fucking get it. Is this one of those "you need to be thai to understand" things?
Spaniard88 said:
When I was 5 year old I got my dumb ass trapped between a bed and some other furniture piece. I freaked out like I was going to die. I don't recall if I could still breath okay or not, but I certainly could not move. My mom got me out, but I never crawled into tight spaces again.
I guess some of us get that lesson early in life.
My son recently got stuck behind the couch and freaked out. Waaaah I want mama!!! I bet he will do it again too. He's younger than 2 and is very stubborn. Oh well.