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<blockquote data-quote="Seadog" data-source="post: 1202923" data-attributes="member: 4129"><p>I always find it amusing and mildly frustrating when someone with absolutely no experience in said particular field(s) chimes in with an "obvious" solution. In this case underwater ROVs and technical cave diving. </p><p></p><p>Just have them hold on, and breath water? Or get on of these ROVs that can haul a man, but can navigate hair pin turns with and are less voluminous that a dive kit?</p><p></p><p>"I understand the robot could explode"? You're understanding is based on what exactly. You might as well also caution against the robot going rogue in a terminator-esqe scenario. </p><p></p><p>It was the same thing with the BP Horizon/Macondo blowout. Armchair quarterbacking from people who've never been involved in the oil industry beyond a visit to the gas station suggesting that halting a literal river of oil a mile under the sea coming out at a pressure strong enough to lift a car for every square inch ain't no thang. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>People talk about swimming like it's some luxury good, why? When I was like 3, I got taken down to the lake, played around in the water, and swimming just came to me. I had an aunt who helped guide me through the motions of diving until I was doing it on my own, and then you just get better. And this is in Canada where you can access water maybe 4 months of the year. This could just be cultural too, I had family who would go to the water, and if I had kids I would do the same. It's like a reinforcing cycle either way. </p><p></p><p>I have however crossed paths with Asians who did grow up in the water, and these guys were literal fish. Like poor kids who grow up spending 40 hours a week kicking around a ball of tape becoming soccer stars, kids who grow up where diving/surfing are a way of life can become monsters of the sport.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Seadog, post: 1202923, member: 4129"] I always find it amusing and mildly frustrating when someone with absolutely no experience in said particular field(s) chimes in with an "obvious" solution. In this case underwater ROVs and technical cave diving. Just have them hold on, and breath water? Or get on of these ROVs that can haul a man, but can navigate hair pin turns with and are less voluminous that a dive kit? "I understand the robot could explode"? You're understanding is based on what exactly. You might as well also caution against the robot going rogue in a terminator-esqe scenario. It was the same thing with the BP Horizon/Macondo blowout. Armchair quarterbacking from people who've never been involved in the oil industry beyond a visit to the gas station suggesting that halting a literal river of oil a mile under the sea coming out at a pressure strong enough to lift a car for every square inch ain't no thang. People talk about swimming like it's some luxury good, why? When I was like 3, I got taken down to the lake, played around in the water, and swimming just came to me. I had an aunt who helped guide me through the motions of diving until I was doing it on my own, and then you just get better. And this is in Canada where you can access water maybe 4 months of the year. This could just be cultural too, I had family who would go to the water, and if I had kids I would do the same. It's like a reinforcing cycle either way. I have however crossed paths with Asians who did grow up in the water, and these guys were literal fish. Like poor kids who grow up spending 40 hours a week kicking around a ball of tape becoming soccer stars, kids who grow up where diving/surfing are a way of life can become monsters of the sport. [/QUOTE]
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