2020 South American Expat Thread

mr2

Pigeon
^That makes sense, I’ve actually never been up to the 3 crosses because years ago locals told me it was dangerous so I never bothered. Yes all of the tiendas and CCs were open, other than a 1am curfew, things were relatively normal.
How recently were you there?

Are the locals mostly masked up and afraid?
 
I'm curious on that too. I have no experience in Mexico, but met a (married) Mexican woman years ago who was slim and in-shape. I'd suspect there must be a sub-culture of that maybe in the wealthier classes?

The last part was/is discouraging, but should you write off the entire country? What about throwing the net on the other side of the boat?
I see skinny attractive women everyday even in my small town. Our interactions go well enough and almost always walk away with a phone number.

The texting doesn’t go far though. Even in Spanish. I’ve tried all different things. The women are obviously overwhelmed by choice.

1/3 ask for money (usually indirectly). Or they just act really stupid. Like mental retardation helplessness. Surprised they can walk around without an emotional support animal and cane. A lot of poorly educated people here. Even the smart ones are rather dumb.

The other 1/3 are not exactly single. They are working and too busy for anything besides spending time with friends and family on sundays. No good for a relationship. Have huge egos and get hostile and flaky.

The remaining 1/3 are usually from broken homes. Have no hobbies. Uneducated. Live at home. No money. No job. On meds. Etc. Basically all around broken people.

I call these 3 categories:
-dumb/ho
-legit/busy
-broken/boring

*There is considerable overlap. 8s show up at my golf club. They act super polite. They only want $50 (1500 pesos). They have normal jobs. The fatter ones just want a dinner first. Not my thing though.

Dating in Mexico is better in the big 3 cities. But not for long term. No escaping Latin culture.

90% of women I dated here had a bad side that came out too often to be worthwhile.

The other 10% were not in a position to travel and I wasn’t that into them to make it happen. Still not that into mexico or finished in my SMV to settle down here with all the problems most women have.

SEA will be my light at the end of the tunnel for another decade or more.

Mexico has added warning labels to the foods. Big black box labels from the secretary of health. Warn about excess sodium sugar calories.

Maybe in 30-40 years North America can be good again? It’s gotten to competitive hostile and FAT for my taste.

So unfortunate.
 
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mr2

Pigeon
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Dating in Mexico is better in the big 3 cities. But not for long term. No escaping Latin culture.

90% of women I dated here had a bad side that came out too often to be worthwhile.

The other 10% were not in a position to travel and I wasn’t that into them to make it happen. Still not that into mexico or finished in my SMV to settle down here with all the problems most women have.

SEA will be my light at the end of the tunnel for another decade or more.

Is the negative Latin Culture, the telenovela culture where they are saying "mi amor" while cheating left and right?

What's SEA?
 
SEA = Southeast Asia

The Philippines is where I’m thinking I should have made my last stand. It’s a Catholic country, divorce and abortion are illegal, and it is an English speaking. I spent months there looking for a wife but could not find one.

Hygiene, facial attractiveness, polite manners, non-whorishness, diet, exercise are important to me. But I guess I’ll have to give up on some of that. I might just settle down for a girl who never thanks me for paying for everything.

Latin culture is largely soft feminism and simp culture now. The men still pay but tolerate bad behavior and do nothing. I really don’t understand what they get in return besides the ability to cheat and fornicate (which I don’t like). Most of the women aren’t even skinny anymore. Basically like being in the USA.

There are some good Catholic women in latam. I keep in touch with one skinny Brazilian woman who’s very caring and good. The rest of the women who’ve been nice to me were all fat. They just wanted to trade up 2 points in SMV.

Mexico is doable if you’re under 30. But even offering a nice life, marriage, stability I’ve been jerked around here. I wasted two years here trying to find a wife and start a family.

I figured Mexico had free healthcare and education. It’s our neighbor so I could raise a large family here but give them access to the USA if they wanted that.

That’s not really an option in SEA. I’d have to commit to a life there. Or go back to the USA with my wife and work 12 hours a day to support a small family. Thereby having no time with my kids.
 

Mountaineer

Pelican
Gold Member
Forget about Philippines if you want to avoid hard convid dystopia. It will be one of the first to implement the new slave system. There are users of this forum who got the taste of it during first lockdown.
 

mr2

Pigeon
Forget about Philippines if you want to avoid hard convid dystopia. It will be one of the first to implement the new slave system. There are users of this forum who got the taste of it during first lockdown.
Has anyone started a ranking of the lead/most dystopic places?

I would think that places with weak governments and police susceptible to small bribes would be free-est?
 
This thread IS heading in the direction I had hoped. Some solid and encouraging responses thus far.

Uruguay:
To the people curious about Uruguay I lived there for 3 months last year in Montevideo in the Punta Hermosa neighborhood. I also rented a car and drove across the country to the Brazil border and back..... Montevideo is the most expensive city I have ever lived in, its generally known as one of the most expensive countries in South America. I was in Colonia del Sacramento a cool little city a few hours from Montevideo with a friend and we were chatting with out waiter while having lunch and asked him about Uruguay being so expensive... an I will never forget his response, which was "Yes its expensive but here we have legal marijuana, gay marriage, and abortion" He must have mistakenly took us for the woke types jaja. We just smiled and nodded but for the rest of our trip and beyond we made jokes about being willing to pay more for homosexual sodomy, drugs and killing babies. Anyways a lot of Uruguay is pretty "woke" however its super safe and has great steaks. Plenty of diversity in the looks of the people there from white European to typical Latino. I enjoyed my time there but the cost really takes it off the list of places to set up shop.

Brazil:
I spent a few months in Porto Alegre and had a absolute blast, but a big part of that is cause there was a nice basketball park near my condo and literally everyday it didn't rain I was there balling up Brazilians. They were great people in general, the food was good, the prices were cheap, the girls were insanely sexy, safety wasn't a issue but as some of my Brazilian baller buddies pointed out... I was living in a very rich neighborhood. Brazil is a special place with a vibe thats hard to put into words. However for whatever reason I just never consider it for a "forever" destination. The language barrier kind of sucks to. I spent 2019 in South America and I legit had the best time in Brazil. After my time was up in Porto Alegre I rented a car and drove it up to the Bolivian border, which again was also a amazing experience.

Boliva:
I spent a little over a month in Santa Cruz Bolivia which is a lot different then most other cities in Bolivia, its seemingly more Brazilianish then Bolivian. It was ok not really much to say about it, seemed safe and cheap. I then rented a car and Drove up to La Paz which was a really cool experience. I stopped along the way at Cochabamba which seemed really cool and I wish I had spent more time exploring there. Fun story, I went to the big Jesus statue in Cochabamba and then just started exploring all these random dirt roads on the mountains and out in the middle of nowhere I came across a band playing on a path in full traditional costumes. I stopped and chatted with them an we all took pics with each other, they gave me the name of their YouTube channel and later when I was back in civilization and looked them up they had a few million subscribers, they are one of the more famous Bolivian bands in their genre. Then there is La Paz.... I started out La Paz on the wrong foot and probably never gave the city a real chance after that. Driving into La Paz my damn GPS had me go down some crazy steep road with a big cliff at the bottom, I was thinking F this and pulled into a little side road and planned on turning around but when I backed back onto the steep road my SUV started sliding sideways towards the cliff that would have been the end of me... fortunately it stop sliding before the cliff so I had to drive down the road and saw a little road that went off to the side, it was a tight little one lane road and I drove a few hundred yards to the end of it only to find out it just ended with no where to run around. I hopped out of the SUV pretty much in a full fledged panic attack at this point, walked down to the end of that road where the cliff was... thought to myself "Ain't no one gonna get me out of this mess but me" walked back to the SUV and had to back down that crazy narrow road then managed to turn around at the cliff drop off, put the SUV in low 4wd and gunned it up the steep road and that was that. I've never been so happy to turn in a rental car. After that I was pretty shitty on La Paz, its also a very high altitude, very busy, very dirty city. I booked a apartment there for a month but just left the city after 6 days and just chalked up the lost rent money to the game.

I'm in Peru now and there is tons of info on it so I'm not going to post much other then Miraflores in Lima is my nice little first world city bubble that I like to live in. Its safe, clean, and the food is AMAZING. I also spent a month in Cali Colombia in the past and it was great but it was pretty great cause it was in the Cali hay day and we had a team of RVF killers there at the time an it made everything more fun.

I'm also curious to hear about Guatemala or Nicaragua from someone who has been. there.


Brazil is one of those places where you can be in a safe upscale area one minute, and then five or ten minutes of walking in the wrong direction puts you in a very bad place around very dangerous people.

Brazil has a lot to offer, but unless you are very well-off and connected to the point you can get an insanely unattainable permit to carry a pistol in public for self-defense, Brazil is a total write-off and a hard pass as far as living there goes.
 
I was thinking of going to Santiago, Chile. I met a tall a skinny educated Chilean girl from there but working here in Mexico. Surfed, golfed, worked at a Bloomberg terminal so not a moron. She would have been perfect for me but only wanted fun. Then could only keep in touch by sending me attention whore videos of herself I was already forced to look at on Insta.

Thought maybe there was a un-poisoned version of here there. But probably just a fluke though. I’m guessing no abundance of that there.

Anyone doing any Latam traveling lately? Talked to a few guys privately. Basically fake baller for chubsters. Doesn’t seem like much has changed.


When you encounter an exceptionally beautiful and smart woman who is originally from one country and she is living alone on her own in another country, she is either a slut or a call-girl/escort. She moved across the world to be able to live a lewd riotous life of indolence and sin away from the watchful gaze of her family, friends, and those who would know and judge her. She projects a carefully constructed image of herself on IG for likes and shares.

She wouldn't have been perfect for you unless you would have been okay with a woman who likely had dozens of former partners and possibly clients.

Ask yourself, if she was only wanting fun and she was into constant recreational activities such as surfing and golfing, unless she came from family money, well, how did she support herself?

She was probably a call-girl.

I've seen a LOT of office girls and secretaries moonlighting as call girls. They tell mommy and daddy they're in Antwerp or Munich working in an office and they are, but they don't make enough in the office for the lifestyle they live, the majority comes from being a call girl.

An educated woman who is tall and beautiful and works in another country is a huge red-flag. Most of the higher level call-girls and escorts are fairly educated, some even have Ivy League educations, they cater to wealthy corporate level elite men and will often provide business advice in addition to sexual services or even the full "girlfriend experience."



 
Thank you for this advice. Have been lurking this forum lately and lots of great advice here.

@LawTalkingGuy 's posts have been really eye opening for me. Perspectives which I had not considered in the past. You're a prolific writer and a man with experience.
 
Thank you for this advice. Have been lurking this forum lately and lots of great advice here.

@LawTalkingGuy 's posts have been really eye opening for me. Perspectives which I had not considered in the past. You're a prolific writer and a man with experience.

Most of my career involves analysis, writing, talking, or negotiating, or some combination.

I'm sort of on a light vacation of sorts since I am wrapping up a few huge deals and doing some light work on various cases, so I have switched from legal writing to just plain life writing for the time being. It is a welcome switch.

Writing about nothing except law, facts, analysis of this or that case as it relates to a rule of law that can be applied to a present fact pattern, gets sort of dull and draining. I like a switch. Every now and then I have to just spend a few days reading novels instead of reading cases.
 
Brazil is one of those places where you can be in a safe upscale area one minute, and then five or ten minutes of walking in the wrong direction puts you in a very bad place around very dangerous people.

Brazil has a lot to offer, but unless you are very well-off and connected to the point you can get an insanely unattainable permit to carry a pistol in public for self-defense, Brazil is a total write-off and a hard pass as far as living there goes.

Yeah I only spent about a month there, but Brazil is weird because exactly like you said you’ll be in a modern area that has a complete first world (re: safe) vibe and you may feel like you can let your guard down. Reality is that there are some very hard characters in the big cities and the northeast that can really mess you up. In Salvador they had pairs of military police on each street corner. Some older guy came up to me on a fairly large and open square with a knife at night and asked for money. Luckily I’m fast so I just bolted away.

It’s edgy but it also gets old quick if you just want to meet cool people, girls, and enjoy a different culture and not be watching your back every night.
 
Yeah I only spent about a month there, but Brazil is weird because exactly like you said you’ll be in a modern area that has a complete first world (re: safe) vibe and you may feel like you can let your guard down. Reality is that there are some very hard characters in the big cities and the northeast that can really mess you up. In Salvador they had pairs of military police on each street corner. Some older guy came up to me on a fairly large and open square with a knife at night and asked for money. Luckily I’m fast so I just bolted away.

It’s edgy but it also gets old quick if you just want to meet cool people, girls, and enjoy a different culture and not be watching your back every night.

Brazil is the only place where I had whores openly proposition me on the streets and multiple instances of people trying to strong-arm rob me in the street during a period of a few months.

I wouldn't live there without the ability to legally carry a pistol in the street for self-defense and having an AR-15 at home for defense at home. I would also want to live in a gated area with a razor wire and electrified fence with private security. In short, Brazil is basically a prison of sorts, if you want to live with a measure of safety.

Six months there was quite enough.

Paraguay is actually more relaxed even though gunfire at night was the norm where I was [in the area of the Triple frontier].
 

mr2

Pigeon
Brazil is the only place where I had whores openly proposition me on the streets and multiple instances of people trying to strong-arm rob me in the street during a period of a few months.

I wouldn't live there without the ability to legally carry a pistol in the street for self-defense and having an AR-15 at home for defense at home. I would also want to live in a gated area with a razor wire and electrified fence with private security. In short, Brazil is basically a prison of sorts, if you want to live with a measure of safety.

Six months there was quite enough.

Paraguay is actually more relaxed even though gunfire at night was the norm where I was [in the area of the Triple frontier].

re:Brazil.

Is that the case all over Brazil? I had read that the south was safe(r)?
 
re:Brazil.

Is that the case all over Brazil? I had read that the south was safe(r)?

I was exclusively in southern Brazil, Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina.

It is safer but it is "safer by Brazilian standards."

A murder rate of 25 or 32 per 100,000 in a city in southern Brazil is considered "safe" or "safer" compared with the Northeast where a murder rate might be 60 per 100,000 for a similarly sized city, although both murder rates are ridiculous by American standards. A murder rate of 25 per 100,000 or 32 per 100,000 for an American city in the Midwest or Southwest would make it a city in the top 10 for most dangerous cities in the USA.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Interesting map:

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iop890

Crow
Gold Member
Anyone have any experience in the German/Polish/etc enclaves in southern Brazil, like Blumenau? Those would be the only places in Brazil I'd have much interest in.
 

Cortés

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Anyone have any experience in the German/Polish/etc enclaves in southern Brazil, like Blumenau? Those would be the only places in Brazil I'd have much interest in.

I spent a few weeks in a small German town in South Brazil. It wasn't exactly 100% German, there were a few Jews, Italians. There was also a small group of Haitians, but even the Jews i talked to did not have good things to say about them. Something like 80% were blond blue eyed. What's unique about that area is that it was the one of the very few areas in Brazil where houses weren't barracaded with huge ugly walls and barbed wire. This town and the similar neighboring towns had suburban houses similar to what you see in the US. Pretty safe area and cheap for the quality of life. The Germans for the most part had been there since the 1800s. I did meet a few grandchildren/great grandchildren of Nazis, but most of them have the same views on Nazis as most young Germans do. With that said, many are very proud to be German and still speak the language. Most of them identify first as German and then as Brazilian after.

I personally liked the Italian diaspora areas better. Beautiful wine yards and a deep catholic tradition. Maybe it's cause I'm med but i liked those parts alot

What i love about Brazil is that its not at all hard to find a small city/town that fits with you. Even down to the ethnicity you can find where you belong. I've come across quite a few great gems that i would 100% live in
 
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