2020 South American Expat Thread

Dilated

Woodpecker
I hate to ask, but is it because they assume they're rich doormats? Or is it because of "machismo" in Latin men? Also, where in Colombia are you based out of?

What’s happening in LatAm is a bad sign- fathers are teaching their daughters behavior that they never would accept.

My girlfriend’s dad taught her to never rely on a man- get education and make $$. Her car breaks down a few months back and her dad is pissed at me that I didn’t fix it immediately (tied up n a conference call). Well...you taught her to not need a man...and now you’re pissed at me because I didn’t take care of it?

it doesn’t work that way, muchacho. So, naturally she’s confused and has expectations that can’t be rationalized...manifesting in giving me a hard time...something her father would never accept from a woman.

To give you an idea of the level of machismo of this guy his wife who is 58 has never driven a car. She couldn’t drive a car if she had to save her life. He won’t allow it- he drives her everywhere.
 

lonewolf1968

Kingfisher
I hate to ask, but is it because they assume they're rich doormats? Or is it because of "machismo" in Latin men? Also, where in Colombia are you based out of?
Hypergamy in general, but here is a list:
1. Genetics. The Nordic phenotype is uncommon in Colombia and girls like tall white, blonde, blue eyed dudes, cleanliness of blood is ingrained in the collective as the spanish used to call it. Other ethnicities also get an advantage over the short colombian mestizo type in their own niches, African colombian women or other mestizo girls.
2. Resources and wealth, this goes without saying. Girls here feel they are stuck; a foreigner would represent a good chance to improve their life long term. Whether she is a gringo hunter or not.
3.'machismo' in latino men, the only machismo i can think there still exists is in rural areas, old generations and the lower classes, millenials and x gens are just as blue pilled as the ones we know of.
4. Exoticness.

I've lived in the biggest cities mostly, in low class and high middle class circles, Cheers.
 
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How is Acapulco otherwise, if one were to avoid the libshit gringos and debauchery there? Is it at least safe and affordable? Decent health care? It might still be worth it if you can live freely and not be forced to take the vaccine there.


Don't go to Mexico. The left populist president is destroying this country. The three main cities (Guadalajara, Monterrey, Mexico City) have been corrupted by globohomo bs. Women from those cities tend to be super spoiled, entitled and bitchy. They get super fat once married, and even then, they still want a white skinned buff CEO chad. Also, outside of the three great cities, most of the territory is controlled by drug cartels. Spring break cities such as Cancún, Puerto Vallarta or Acapulco are also degenerate shitholes full of the worst blue pill gringos you can imagine. You could find some trad women in the small towns of places like Michoacán, Jalisco, Aguascalientes, Guanajuato and Querétaro but most of them in lower-middle classes are uneducated and tend to be single moms. Don't recommend you the northern states ( pretty women, but dominated by degenerate narcoculture, want a narco Chad) or the southern states (ugly women leaning towards hard left commie bullshit
 
How is Acapulco otherwise, if one were to avoid the libshit gringos and debauchery there? Is it at least safe and affordable? Decent health care? It might still be worth it if you can live freely and not be forced to take the vaccine there.
Well, Acapulco is shitty if you live in the poor-middle class area. It's still kinda good in the high class areas but there's where most debauched gringos are. Drug cartels are still on dispute of the town so you gotta be careful. Women tend to be on the uglier side. You gotta buy a medical insurance because public healthcare sucks balls not just there but in Mexico overall. And regarding the vaccine, you can still choose if you want it or not.
 

Cr33pin

Peacock
Gold Member
Cortés your recommendations are never unsolicited.

I rented a car and drove to Barranquilla to check out that Suzuki.... man its nice. Everything is upgraded on it including the whole undercarriage treated and sprayed so it wont rust. I am in talks with a few different highly recommended import companies in Panama and a export company in Colombia. If everything seems ok in terms of ease and price I may end up pulling the trigger on it. However I am not going to rush into buying it though, like I want to and normally would haha.

Also I just booked a apartment in Barranquilla for next month. Everyone says its a industrial shithole, but from what I saw of it it seemed just as nice as other Colombian cities. Also I am saving almost a G on my rent. After a year here in Cartagena its certainly time to at least venture out a bit and check out a few other spots along the coast while I wait to see when Panama will reopen the border.
 

scotian

Peacock
Gold Member
Barranquilla is a tough city to love but for those who do find their niche there, they really do seem to enjoy it. I would say that the pros of the place are that the locals are really friendly and like to have a good time, there's far fewer gringos there than Cartagena so your exotic factor is up and locals are less jaded because they aren't so exposed to the loser gringos one sees in Cartagena (fat cruise ship types, greasy sex tourists, drunk rowdy hostel types). The cons are pretty obvious: there's no beach (30 minutes away), it's flat, very spread out and not very green like the cities of the interior. Crime is also a major issue compared to Cartagena; I recall a few years ago a police station was bombed in the south a week before carnaval, killing a few cops. The southern part of the city, in barrios like Soledad are very poor and dangerous, an American expat was recently killed there by guys on a motorbike who robbed him for his cell phone and gold chain but apparently there was a lot more to the story and he may have been set up by his novia, he had recently bought a building with apartments whose tenants he was planning to evict, to open a ribs restaurant, in the ghetto-not a wise choice.

Anyway, while I was there for a week last March, I did have a decent time and was really impressed by the new mall called Viva, that area in the north is pretty nice and probably the only place I'd recommend staying while in Barranquilla. Cr33pin, I highly recommend checking out Parque Venezuela in the evening at around 7-9pm-it's a new park with a ton of outdoor activities to do like basketball, soccer, gym, etc you'll see a bunch of locals there exercising and doing zumba, it's a good spot to meet locals or take a girl out for a date.

Another great thing about the city is that it's not as hot as Cartagena, I didn't take any pants with me up to the coast and they definitely weren't needed in Cartagena where the heat and humidity was unbearable for me but in Baq the evening breeze got a bit chilly and I had to buy a pair of jeans.
 

IM3000

Pelican
I second what Scotian wrote above.

In addition, another pro: Food is great. Another con: It's super ugly in most parts, then again it's a Colombian city...

Definitely stay out of the south. If I remember correctly, it starts getting a bit shifty south of Carrera 46.

Parque Americas was also a good place to play Basketball when I was there. If you don't mind concrete floor that is.
 
Is anyone familiar with Argentina/Uraguay? Being a white nationalist, I'm not really interested in much of Latin America, but these countries have me thinking.
 

scotian

Peacock
Gold Member
^I’m not familiar with either country but don’t get too excited about a white nationalist haven in Latin America especially if you don’t speak Spanish and aren’t familiar with Latino culture, you’d probably be better off in rural Montana.
 
^I’m not familiar with either country but don’t get too excited about a white nationalist haven in Latin America especially if you don’t speak Spanish and aren’t familiar with Latino culture, you’d probably be better off in rural Montana.
Yo hablo Espanol, y yo se latin culture
 

scotian

Peacock
Gold Member
Yo hablo Espanol, y yo se latin culture
No te creo jaja how you gonna claim you speak Spanish when you don’t know the difference between the very basic verbs of saber and conocer bruh?

Now, I could be wrong as my Spanish isn’t perfect but you should’ve said “hablo español y conozco la cultura Latina” you don’t need to include the “yo” in the simple present tense, it’s assumed when you use hablo that you’re referring to yourself, or did they not teach you that in Spanish 101?

Good luck with establishing yourself in your white wonderland amongst the locals using Google translate amigo, I wish you the best jaja.
 
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IM3000

Pelican
No te creo jaja how you gonna claim you speak Spanish when you don’t know the difference between the very basic verbs of saber and conocer bruh?

Now, I could be wrong as my Spanish isn’t perfect but you should’ve said “hablo español y conozco la cultura Latina” you don’t need to include the “yo” in the simple present tense, it’s assumed when you use hablo that you’re referring to yourself, or did they not teach you that in Spanish 101?

Good luck with establishing yourself in your white wonderland amongst the locals using Google translate amigo, I wish you the best jaja.
Technically, there is no need to use the personal pronoun but using it, isn't wrong. You can also use "sé" (with accent, please) but you'd also need to add "de" as in "saber de algo". :nerd

This aside, the entire premise of being a white nationalist and emigrating to Latin America is pretty retarded. Do you think that you'll be happy being surrounded by negros, indios, trigueños, etc.? And vice versa? That said, it has been done before (e.g. by Dr. Mengele), so good luck to you.
 

Cr33pin

Peacock
Gold Member
Initial impressions of Barranquilla

I tell ya what... I wish every industrial shithole was as nice as Barranquilla. Granted I found my apartment by googling "nicest neighborhood in Barranquilla" also Scotian referred me to the same neighborhood. I dont doubt for a second I can find some shithole here but thats the same for any city of this size anywhere in the world. Every day I just walk off in a different direction and find plenty of nice plazas, restaurants, and parks. As long as you stick to the right neighborhoods in the north you are golden. Rent up here is very reasonable, I stay in a super nice building with a pool, theater, lounge area, gym, etc.. My rent is $800 USD a month ( I did talk them down from $1200) However I am sure you can stay in a just as nice apartment in a less fancy building for much less... maybe $500 or more.

One thing I did notice was that they take their Covid serious here. I have seen a few different people decked out in full on hazmat gear, I didn't know if they were going to explore Chernobyl or tend to their bee hives. I realized I was the only one walking around outside not wearing a mask. I also noticed I was getting a lot looks and I didn't know if it was cause I was a tall, jacked, devilishly handsome gringo with the beard of Zeus...or that I didn't have a mask on. However I was still getting looks in the mall when I did have a mask. There is not much touristy about Barranquilla so they dont get a ton of foreigners compared to the other big cities in Colombia. Plenty of cute girls floating around as well if you feel like trying to put in the work to see if they are decent chicks or not.

 

LoveBug

Kingfisher
I realized I was the only one walking around outside not wearing a mask. I also noticed I was getting a lot looks and I didn't know if it was cause I was a tall, jacked, devilishly handsome gringo with the beard of Zeus...or that I didn't have a mask on. However I was still getting looks in the mall when I did have a mask. There is not much touristy about Barranquilla so they dont get a ton of foreigners compared to the other big cities in Colombia. Plenty of cute girls floating around as well if you feel like trying to put in the work to see if they are decent chicks or not.


Ahh, being a devilishly handsome tall gringo in the third world. The continual quandary. Who is looking and why
 

magaman

Woodpecker
My (not COVID) passport just arrived. Where is the best place in Latin America at the current moment? (Besides Mexico, it's practically right next door to me)
 
I'm an American expat in the Philippines, who has my own personal concerns about my safety. I live not far from a supposedly bad area, where the police occasionally show up in great force, and when I walk home from the street where my partner's extended family lives, they often give me a security escort, if it is late. I have never felt threatened, but people tell me you can go years being fine here, and then something terrible happens. My partner knew a Korean guy who after six years here, was brutally mugged in Manilla, and then decided to go home.

I am no tough guy, but even tough guys can get hurt here. My partner's aunt told me how several decades ago a former member of the British SAS special forces came to my current area to court his local fiancee. He was a big muscle bound guy who laughed when people told him to not travel alone at night, despite his strength and size. Well, while along an isolated path he was jumped by around a half dozen men who were all armed with daggers and who knew how to use them effectively. The ex special ops guy put up a ferocious fight and seriously hurt several of them, but this resulted in them going from "wound you" mode to "kill you" mode. They eventually ran off, but he collapsed from blood loss, only a few hundred feet from his fiancee's front door and his corpse was found the next day. I realize this is an extreme story, but it does make me think about things.

I have played with the idea of getting pepper spray and a knuckle blade, but beyond weapons, not going out late at night, not being in isolated areas where there would be no witnesses, and traveling with friends rather than alone, are smart options. My partner's aunt said the more redneck locals around here think all white men must be rich, and as the old Filipino saying goes, "have pockets stuffed full of hundred dollar bills."

Stay safe!
 

Kimby

Chicken
Don't go to Mexico. The left populist president is destroying this country. The three main cities (Guadalajara, Monterrey, Mexico City) have been corrupted by globohomo bs. Women from those cities tend to be super spoiled, entitled and bitchy. They get super fat once married, and even then, they still want a white skinned buff CEO chad. Also, outside of the three great cities, most of the territory is controlled by drug cartels. Spring break cities such as Cancún, Puerto Vallarta or Acapulco are also degenerate shitholes full of the worst blue pill gringos you can imagine. You could find some trad women in the small towns of places like Michoacán, Jalisco, Aguascalientes, Guanajuato and Querétaro but most of them in lower-middle classes are uneducated and tend to be single moms. Don't recommend you the northern states ( pretty women, but dominated by degenerate narcoculture, want a narco Chad) or the southern states (ugly women leaning towards hard left commie bullshit).

I was in Mexico over the past 2 months and it wasn't a very good experience. I'm French and yes the women love French here but most of Mexican women are fatties, the higher-class women are uber-entitled and I wasn't willing to make the effort for them, I'd rather court French women instead (and that says something).

Note that beauty and wealth are very correlated there. That's because Mexico has some of the most disgusting diets I've ever encountered so if you can't afford the best food here you're bound to end up either a fat lard or skinny-fat. I didn't go to Mexico for the food but you can't even go to a store and find something edible, all they sell are brands of disgustingly processed stuff. All I was asking was for some bread or a cookie or something. But even that is so crappy that I'd rather eat at mcdonalds. It's a warzone for eating decently in Mexico. Your only option is to cook everything at home. Once I went to a french bakery where they supposedly home-make the bread. It tasted like cardboard and was expensive. These useless people can't even make something simple like bread.

Ah also something I didn't understand was why people say Mexico is one of the freest countries in the world right now. That wasn't my experience at all lol. CDMX is really oppressive, the corporate drones are all under stress 24/7 all wearing masks, if you go to a mall you even have to dip your feet to "clean the covid" before entering a shop. Sometimes they'll tell you in their obsequious tone that a certain corridor is only one way. Typicall passive-aggressiveness of Mexican people. These fat lards are such a bunch of cowards and obese they never dare to confront people too strongly. But don't be duped. They ARE aggressing you, you just don't notice because not used to the "Mexican way".

I don't vibe well with Mexicans especially of CDMX. I don't know what it is. I think I don't like fake people. That's why in general I don't like Americans and to a lesser extend I don't like Mexicans. I don't remember hating on Chileans when I was living there. Because they are not fake. They don't sugarcoat things or try to bullshit you all the time. Oh and they hate America. I've come to thing that countries recommended by American forums are usually exactly the countries that I should avoid. Mexico, Colombia, Philippines... These are the most shitty countries I've visited, yet always recommended. Not that I thought Mexico would be great. I didn't have any other option. All of Europe was going under lockdown. I said fuck it, I'll go to Mexico to change my mind and leave it soon.

Thought that if I don't like CDMX I can chill to a beach town. Went to Puerto Vallarta. It sucked. Was like a much shittier version of Nice. Way too many tourists for my taste. I don't even care if it's full of gays as long as they are not ladyboy freaks touching you when you walk in a street. But that place was way overpriced for what you get (like most of Mexico), and all the walkable streets were full of old boring tourists. So I went to Puerto Escondido. I thought if Puerto Vallarta is like that then for SURE I won't like the Riviera Maya. I know it's full of Americans. I refuse to talk to them in english. So Puerto Escondido was actually better than Puerto Vallarta. I really like the long beach Zipolete. I guess I like danger and adrenaline. I swam there a few times. Almost got drowned by a huge wave lol and another time got caught in a huge corrent that wanted to take me away, I had to litterally dig my hands in the sand to not end up a little spot away in the sea. But that part of Mexico is not developed. You can't stay there like you would in Chiang Mai to be a digital nomad. Their internet is prehistoric. They don't have taxi apps nor a food delivery app. Way too hot outside so you'd better have a scooter. Nice place to chill but wouln't stay there more than 1 or 2 weeks.

So then I've been to Guadalajara. That was the only city that I found was liveable. Not sure how I would like it if I stayed longer. You need a car for sure too, it's very spread out. People don't have shitty attitudes like in CDMX. I know people like to criticize the horrible attitude of girls in CDMX. One time I was walking in CDMX and crossed a cute girl and looked at her like a normal person would do. She cleared her throat while crossing me. In CDMX girls that are thin and a bit tall are often like that. I don't go to an overpriced city with oppressive covid rules to meet 6s that think clearing their throats on my way is ok because they own 2 dogs and can afford Condesa while living with 3 roommates and having 2 sugar daddies.

But it's not only girls that have a bad attitude. It's everyone. The Mexican men there are not fun. Obsessed with making money. Greedy. Greed is a word I like to associate with Mexican men. They think we should tip them all the time. I don't even do that shit in other countries. Did it a few times in Mexico but wouldn't do it if I had to do it again. They don't deserve it. They are lazy and fake. I can't imagine what it's like for people going there without spanish skills. Mexican people are so passive aggressive. And the foreigners are Americans so it's not like I wanna change my minds with them either. Got an american girl talk to me once with her luggage she thought I was the airbnb guy. She talked to me in the most entitled voice ever. I pretended I didn't speak english and left. She asked that I don't close the building entrance. I should have closed it with my key and made her wait outside in the heat. Just wanted to leave and avoid any contact with her. I am a bit absent minded but sometimes should think more "in the moment". When I am not in a "high-T" day I let things slip like that. But I think I should have treated her in the most rude way possible. That's ok. I will do that to Americans who visit France.

Well all Mexicans are not that fake. Many cool people too. But I don't know, I hate their obsequious tone when they wanna tell you something to avoid confrontation. Or the way these fat ass lady clerks seem to get outraged when you talk to them in a too direct way instead of doing the obsequious little bitch as they would expect. I'm a cold person. Like most Europeans. I don't like bullshit or having to "not offend people". I don't like to feel forced to smile in the streets if I don't want to. Mexicans are like that. These little cowards. I also hate something some women or old Mexicans do to aggress you is to walk a bit towards your way. But they don't do it if they sense you're angry or something. Mexicans and most midget races are very Emotionally intelligent. They live in chaos and rely on emotions like pity, love and laughter to get by with their lives. Once I got a condesa bitch walk to my way at night. She seemed upper class and was with a tall mexican dude. I guess she thought I wouldn't dare. But she got a good hit by my shoulder and I continued my way. But you can't do that long term if you stay in that dump. If you brush the wrong person in Mexico I guess things could happen. I don't know but can feel it. Heard it's pretty cheap to hire someone to kill you. Maybe that's why these cowards are so passive aggressive. They want people to give you the benefit of the doubt.
 
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scotian

Peacock
Gold Member
Something tells me that Kimby would be angry and find fault with most destinations in Latin America, I don't think it's a great place for sophisticated, cultured Euro Weenies, as he seems to have noticed-Yanks and Canucks seem to like it more and get on better with the locals, since we're used to eating crappy food and we sugar coat everything so as not to come across as rude, "sorry" goes a long way sometimes.

That being said, as much as I do enjoy my quick beach vacations to Mexico, it's never "clicked" with me the way Colombia does although Mexico does have some definite advantages, there's just something about it that I haven't quite figured out yet.
 
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