2020 United States Election Results

Orson

Kingfisher
An epic 30 post Twitter thread has gone viral and beyond, explaining how the Right Side is defining itself in opposition to the Left Ruling Class.

One podcaster Martyrmade's (Darryl Cooper) insights are worth sharing for discussion and review of the Trump Years and the treason and subversion of democracy and the Constitution, culminating in a likely stolen election.

This Tweet thread has made it onto Bonjino and Tucker Carlson, already.

Read it!

Darryl Cooper: Why Trump Supporters Are Pissed Off And Don't Trust Anything​

 

Dusty

Peacock
Gold Member
They seem to be setting a narrative that Republicans are destroying democracy by adhering to the letter of the law (I.e., the Constitution) rather than the ”spirit of law” ( as defined by lefties). They would respond to Tucker’s litany of anomalies in Fulton county as quibbles, and who cares,..just allow as many votes as possible, and forget about silly rules and laws.


Some quotes:

The looming danger is not that the mob will return; it’s that mainstream Republicans will “legally” overturn an election.

Because of that behavior, as well as its behavior over the past six months, we are convinced that the Republican Party leadership is willing to overturn an election. Moreover, we are concerned that it will be ableto do so—legally.

For elections to be democratic, all adult citizens must be equally able to cast a ballot and have that vote count. Using the letter of the law to violate the spirit of this principle is strikingly easy. Election officials can legally throw out large numbers of ballots on the basis of the most minor technicalities (e.g., the oval on the ballot is not entirely penciled in, or the mail-in ballot form contains a typo or spelling mistake). Large-scale ballot disqualification accords with the letter of the law, but it is inherently antidemocratic, for it denies suffrage to many voters. Crucially, if hardball criteria are applied unevenly, such that many ballots are disqualified in one party’s stronghold but not in other areas, they can turn an election

Throwing out thousands of ballots in rival strongholds may be profoundly antidemocratic, but it is technically legal, and Republicans in several states now have a powerful stick with which to enforce such practices.

We believe that the U.S. Constitution, in its current form, is enabling the radicalization of the Republican Party and exacerbating America’s democratic crisis.

Following the example of other democracies, we must expand access to the ballot, reform our electoral system to ensure that majorities win elections, and weaken or eliminate antiquated institutions such as the filibuster so that majorities can actually govern.
 
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Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
In other words “applying the letter of the law is legal but its wrong unless we are the appliers”...Thats the complaint.

Nothing new

The most surprising tidbit to me out of all of this is that Atlanta Journal Constitution publicly acknowledged their agreement with VoterGA. I picture somewhere in Atlanta thers a guy with a funny hat getting on his walkie talkie...
 

Dusty

Peacock
Gold Member
They seem to be setting a narrative that Republicans are destroying democracy by adhering to the letter of the law (I.e., the Constitution) rather than the ”spirit of law” ( as defined by lefties). They would respond to Tucker’s litany of anomalies in Fulton county as quibbles, and who cares,..just allow as many votes as possible, and forget about silly rules and laws.


Some quotes:

The looming danger is not that the mob will return; it’s that mainstream Republicans will “legally” overturn an election.

Because of that behavior, as well as its behavior over the past six months, we are convinced that the Republican Party leadership is willing to overturn an election. Moreover, we are concerned that it will be ableto do so—legally.

For elections to be democratic, all adult citizens must be equally able to cast a ballot and have that vote count. Using the letter of the law to violate the spirit of this principle is strikingly easy. Election officials can legally throw out large numbers of ballots on the basis of the most minor technicalities (e.g., the oval on the ballot is not entirely penciled in, or the mail-in ballot form contains a typo or spelling mistake). Large-scale ballot disqualification accords with the letter of the law, but it is inherently antidemocratic, for it denies suffrage to many voters. Crucially, if hardball criteria are applied unevenly, such that many ballots are disqualified in one party’s stronghold but not in other areas, they can turn an election

Throwing out thousands of ballots in rival strongholds may be profoundly antidemocratic, but it is technically legal, and Republicans in several states now have a powerful stick with which to enforce such practices.

We believe that the U.S. Constitution, in its current form, is enabling the radicalization of the Republican Party and exacerbating America’s democratic crisis.

Following the example of other democracies, we must expand access to the ballot, reform our electoral system to ensure that majorities win elections, and weaken or eliminate antiquated institutions such as the filibuster so that majorities can actually govern.
I think the Dems have been cheating in elections forever (in 1960, JFK beat Nixon due to obvious cheating, but Nixon didn’t want to dispute). More than half the country knows Dems cheated to kick Orange out.

Now that there is going to be more scrutiny, Dems are freaking out. They freaked out when Kris Kobach headed up a project to check voter rolls. Dems, including judges, threw so much sand in the gears (RESIST!) that he had to stop.

And now that some Repubs are taking a closer look at the 2020 quirkiness and trying to tighten things going forward, Dems are totally freaking out and fearful. Now they’re all “screw the rules! Screw laws! Rules are racist!”

Don’t you love the jew-jitzu too? Accuse your opponent of that which you do.

By Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt

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Uzisuicide

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I campaigned hard for Bush in '00 and '04. There was no way Kerry had a prayer in that election after the Swift Boat Vets were finished with him. Bush won Ohio by over 100k votes. Republicans picked up seats in the '02 mid-terms and Democrats were seen as war wimps at a time when Americans were out for blood after 9/11.
I used to tease Democrats that were being bused in to Metro stations in Norther Virginia in '04. "Shouldn't you be in Ohio" I said. "We were there yesterday" he replied. Now Ohio is a stronghold for Republicans and Northern Virginia is a stronghold for Democrats. There used to be a robust Republican organization in Northern VA, I used to campaign with those guys. By '08 it was all but gone. Amazing to think that Bush won Loudoun County Virginia with 55% of the vote.
 

Uzisuicide

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Loudoun County saw mass immigration of Indians due to the number of data centers going up and expanding outsourcing of metro DC jobs to immigrants. That’s why it went so crazy.
Loudon County is full of rich, liberal whites EC. Demographics doesn't explain Biden/Clinton lawn signs being ubiquitous in Leesburg and the surrounding properties of million + dollar homes. Nor does it explain a total inversion of the red/blue vote from Bush '04 to Obama '08. This is tantamount to blaming Connecticut being overwhelmingly white and Democrat on demo's. Democrats are losing blue collar middle class voters and Republicans are losing rich 'country clubbers'.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Kind of. Keep in mind there was also a lot of mass immigration to the area which turned the entire state blue. Once they had control over the state then it was off to the races
 

Orson

Kingfisher
YouTube currently has the Maricopa County hearing recorded on Charlie Kirk’s feed (for now). Geez the irregularities boggle the mind: Anomalies!!!

3,981 voted despite registered AFTER Oct 15 deadline

11,326 voted who were NOT on rolls on Nov 7 but WERE on Dec

18,000 voted and then were removed from rolls AFTER election

74,243 mail-in ballots w/ NO evidence of ever being sent

176,000 votes that had BLEED THROUGH! Desire AZ official SECURE ballots not bleeding through

*Meanwhile crickets elsewhere. Truly shocking insistence on ignorance “Big lie”. ~~I think not! Hearing coverage starts after hour 1.

SPREAD THE WORD!

Elsewhere, find deep discussion about election fraud and the delegitimization of the Democrats here
 
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Orson

Kingfisher
Geoffrey Britain at the last link posts this insightful comment:

"As we proceed further into this fraudulent farce, the perception that the Republic is gone will further deepen and spread among both the Republican base and the independents.

"An illegitimate government has no recourse but to increase its tyranny. Sooner or later, tyranny brings rebellion.

"Everything the left and its political arm the democrat party and its enforcement arm the deep state are doing is bringing America closer to civil war. They imagine that putting down another false flag insurrection will provide the excuse for the imposition of martial law and the rounding up of the “domestic terrorists” who protest.

"Instead, it will light a fire across the land. What the left doesn’t get is that their passion is intellectual in origin. If only things could be made ‘fair’ for everyone. Children can be made to see what’s ‘right’.

"While the passion on the right, originates in the heart; at base a love of family, friends and country. The right’s passion doesn’t burn as brightly as the left’s but it’s a much deeper, slower burning.

"Courage, persistance, determination and loyalty originate in the heart.

"Soldiers do not face the possibilities of death and permanent disability through a belief in ideology. They face those horrors and refuse to run away due to the bonding that going into harms way together brings. When that bonding is absent, you only have a mob. And mobs are easily routed when they encounter real force."
 

Easy_C

Peacock
While I expected these audits to just turn out some vague BS...

Happy to be wrong. 74k ballots with no record of them being shipped is massive. Biden won by about 10k votes, so if even 1/8th of those are fraudulent it's enough to have flipped the state.

Will anything come of it? Probably not but it does a lot to help "de-fortify" the elections moving forward.
 
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the high

Kingfisher
Only way I could see Trump being sworn back in is if their play is to gaslight the country into a civil war. No matter how much evidence is presented that they stole the election even if CNN/MSNBC admitted as much, the optics of Biden being inaugurated only to have it be revoked and Trump take his place would make the 2016 meltdowns when Trump won look light.
 

Elipe

Pelican
Only way I could see Trump being sworn back in is if their play is to gaslight the country into a civil war. No matter how much evidence is presented that they stole the election even if CNN/MSNBC admitted as much, the optics of Biden being inaugurated only to have it be revoked and Trump take his place would make the 2016 meltdowns when Trump won look light.
Oh man, that would be entertaining as heck.
 
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