2024 US Presidential Election

[Cynllo]

The Founding Fathers were *exactly* the people that hated and subverted monarchy in the first place. Locke wrote angry rants about divine monarchy. Franklin belonged to the Hellfire Club. Washington was a Freemason. Complaining about how a fundamentally anti-God political system is shockingly not a Godly political system anymore is like Roman Catholics complaining about the subversion of their religion when it was already founded on subverting Apostolic ecclesiology. The failure is baked into the system from day one.

Good points. It seems that this was a LONG time coming, though, and we're talking several lifetimes.

It is curious that the arc of history goes on as long term laid (demonic?) plans, if in fact it is as you say. I think most are confused by this, if they even understand it at all. Heck, boomers and older can't even see what happened their lifetimes at this point, lol (regarding the lies and the aims of the government)

I think a lot of people are feeling something in the air. Not just people in the US. I can see constituencies that have been waiting for some form of crash, strong on the scent of it and pushing the boundaries. I've noticed such people, have been pushing the boundaries with what they can say. Myself included. The satanic system has crossed too many Rubicons and more people are taking the risk of saying things that are true. I have pushed norms on the failing society. They instinctually feel it, but don't want to look. They get very angry when you point it out, but have no comeback beyond you being bad.

It wasn't long ago I saw the modern era as having started in about 1920. Before that there were just sweet old granmas, country belles etc. To exaggerate a little. But then you inspect and you find that social, moral and spiritual decline's roots are much older. And that the pieces of the current things were set in motion centuries ago.

 

[Blade Runner]

It wasn't long ago I saw the modern era as having started in about 1920.

What's curious or discerning about your timestamp here also is if you know a lot about American history, you'll know that the Roaring 20s included a very prosperous period, including also "flappers" and marijuana usage with heralded musicians like Louis Armstrong, etc. It probably isn't a coincidence that convergent evolution was going on at the same time in Germany, though they had been in "wars" or just came out of the first great one.

 

[GuitarVH]

The Founding Fathers were *exactly* the people that hated and subverted monarchy in the first place. Locke wrote angry rants about divine monarchy. Franklin belonged to the Hellfire Club. Washington was a Freemason. Complaining about how a fundamentally anti-God political system is shockingly not a Godly political system anymore is like Roman Catholics complaining about the subversion of their religion when it was already founded on subverting Apostolic ecclesiology. The failure is baked into the system from day one.

Yes I'm aware the Founding Fathers were against monarchy.

When I referred to monarchies being subverted, I was thinking more how Jewish usurers would subvert the kingdom through lending money to property rich/cash poor royals and nobles and thus have an undue influence on state affairs. The problem with monarchies is that one evil king or queen can bring their society to complete ruination during their reign without many safeguards to stop them. On the other hand, the benefit of monarchies is having righteous kings and queens that help and protect their society against subversive influences.

Does the fact that Jewish usurers figured out a way to also subvert a constitutional republic make the system itself invalid? Do I think that the Founding Fathers planned or foresaw the open borders Sodom and Gomorrah dystopia of the current day? No I don't. Safeguards were built in but at the current time have been subverted by the rich and powerful.

I believe a homogenous, moral and Christian culture could function well in either system. If subversive elements are allowed to fester whether it's due to an apathetic king or an apathetic elected official, problems will occur. Subversives will always scheme and attempt to bring down any nation that is the target of their attack, regardless of their form of government. That is the key issue to consider.

 

[budoslavic]

 

[Cynllo]

You can't blame this all on Biden, or whoever types up his flashcards.

But the average person know nothing of the economy. They are trapped in whatever yarns are being spun by their partisan handlers. Though independents will instincitvley see the huge rot that has occurred under Biden and be more open to the GOP.

Biden's hand is so weak, there is no reason that he should be able to win.

 

[eradicator]

Biden's hand is so weak, there is no reason that he should be able to win.

Mail in /fake ballots

Edit this has me thinking. Let’s say Trump does win .

Does he try to dismantle the alphabet organizations? We can stop federally funding the fbi/cia but they likely would simply return to working for the Pinkerton detective agency and do the same work as private citizens and be owned directly by blackrock/vanguard. And nothing would change.

The only thing that would change all of this? The USA goes bankrupt, we are no longer a welfare state, we are no longer the worlds policemen because we no longer have the money for it. Let Russia, China and India fight over that role.

My concern is that we are already broke, and the lags built into the machine we keeping us from stopping doing all of this

 

[Cynllo]

Diversity becomes a threat to democracy.

 

[budoslavic]

 

[Thomas More]

He's right. It's a uniparty, and has been for decades. Look at the way Paul Ryan and the Republican congressional majorities responded to Trump in 2016, and when the election was stolen in 2020. The way they all reacted wasn't new. They've all been owned for a very long time.

They have all ridden the Lolita Express. They are all made men. The Deep State owns them lock, stock and barrel.

 

[Aloha50]

So last week we learned the Trump struggles with knowing whether a man can become a women or not (Meghan Kelly interview) and 6 week heartbeat bans are terrible (Meet the Press). Now I know this changes no hard core Trumpers opinion of the man; Trump himself said in 2016 he could shoot somebody in broad daylight and his peeps would still back him and this is 100 percent true (cult). But I wonder, are there Christians here who are thinking of tapping out? Just curious. I suspect not, but I could be wrong.

 

[get2choppaaa]

So last week we learned the Trump struggles with knowing whether a man can become a women or not (Meghan Kelly interview) and 6 week heartbeat bans are terrible (Meet the Press). Now I know this changes no hard core Trumpers opinion of the man; Trump himself said in 2016 he could shoot somebody in broad daylight and his peeps would still back him and this is 100 percent true (cult). But I wonder, are there Christians here who are thinking of tapping out? Just curious. I suspect not, but I could be wrong.

Meh... still the best alternative in the field to Biden that can actually win.

Reference South Park
Turd sandwich or Giant Douche. It's still applicable

 

[Cynllo]

 

[Cuchulainn2016]

So last week we learned the Trump struggles with knowing whether a man can become a women or not (Meghan Kelly interview) and 6 week heartbeat bans are terrible (Meet the Press). Now I know this changes no hard core Trumpers opinion of the man; Trump himself said in 2016 he could shoot somebody in broad daylight and his peeps would still back him and this is 100 percent true (cult). But I wonder, are there Christians here who are thinking of tapping out? Just curious. I suspect not, but I could be wrong.

What does it matter what Trump thinks of abortion? He always said that it should be up to individual states (and their citizens) to decide the abortion question, and thats what he made happen.

i would rather have a politician who lets the people decide questions like that, rather than one who forces their own view upon the majority.

 

[Cuchulainn2016]

Who isnt sure who they voted for 3 years ago?

 

[get2choppaaa]

What does it matter what Trump thinks of abortion? He always said that it should be up to individual states (and their citizens) to decide the abortion question, and thats what he made happen.

i would rather have a politician who lets the people decide questions like that, rather than one who forces their own view upon the majority.

R v Wade Getting overturned speaks for itself.

The folks pushing the national abortion ban, while I love the idea, wouldn't be able to get it done on a national level.

Trump got that

 

[Blade Runner]

You can't blame this all on Biden, or whoever types up his flashcards.

But the average person know nothing of the economy. They are trapped in whatever yarns are being spun by their partisan handlers. Though independents will instincitvley see the huge rot that has occurred under Biden and be more open to the GOP.

Biden's hand is so weak, there is no reason that he should be able to win.

Yes, I was thinking about this yesterday. If they are all stooges, or controlled opposition types who even if they aren't managed maximally, still can be somewhat neutralized (Trump), then the plan must go on, and in my view (one can see all of my recent predictions about what will happen this decade) we enter a recession/depression with major/increasing inflation. The point of that is to buy time and desensitize, or perhaps condition, the people into the next phase attempt, which will be the rug pull. At that time they will try to be as effective as possible with the enslavement and surveillance state. Everything else until then, including the Donald (sadly, though it is entertaining to me) is a distraction.

 

[Blade Runner]

I'm not sure how convincing I am to all of you, but I generally love James Woods, and in this tweet he shows that he is so much smarter than the average American, but also still doesn't see the big picture I'm talking about. And it plays into the hands of the grifters, shadow government, and blame game industry, which they love. Notice that it still takes the system seriously, as if the "Republicans" could somehow do something about this even if they wanted to (right now). That might have been the case if they realized that Joseph McCarthy was right, and even then it was probably too late - think of it, that's already 70+ years ago. And then JFK was assassinated shortly after his stint in the Senate, likely showing the fix was already in, as we might expect. By the way, not many know this, but Joe died from "Hepatitis" at age 48 in 1957 after all sorts of crazy stuff, being censured by the Senate, even weirdly losing prominence after a Wyoming Senator by the name of Lester Hunt committed suicide. Hunt was one of his big opponents.

 

[rainy]

R v Wade Getting overturned speaks for itself.

The folks pushing the national abortion ban, while I love the idea, wouldn't be able to get it done on a national level.

Trump got that

Yes. Trying to get things done on a national level is entirely different than pontificating one’s personal beliefs online.

There are strategic compromises one needs to make. And Trump’s game plan and the outcome on the abortion issue was the best rational and logical outcome. Doesn’t mean one has to completely agree with it.

 

[eradicator]

I'm not sure how convincing I am to all of you, but I generally love James Woods, and in this tweet he shows that he is so much smarter than the average American, but also still doesn't see the big picture I'm talking about. And it plays into the hands of the grifters, shadow government, and blame game industry, which they love. Notice that it still takes the system seriously, as if the "Republicans" could somehow do something about this even if they wanted to (right now). That might have been the case if they realized that Joseph McCarthy was right, and even then it was probably too late - think of it, that's already 70+ years ago. And then JFK was assassinated shortly after his stint in the Senate, likely showing the fix was already in, as we might expect. By the way, not many know this, but Joe died from "Hepatitis" at age 48 in 1957 after all sorts of crazy stuff, being censured by the Senate, even weirdly losing prominence after a Wyoming Senator by the name of Lester Hunt committed suicide. Hunt was one of his big opponents.

Someone mentioned last week that Eisenhowers farewell address warned of the military industrial complex. Boy was he right. I guess it’s not an understatement to say much of the world changed in the aftermath of ww2

 

[holgerdanske]

Who isnt sure who they voted for 3 years ago?

People who voted but are too embarrassed to admit who they voted for.