4 Reasons Why Lifting In Gyms Is A Bad Idea

Brother Thomas 256

Ostrich
Other Christian
Originally posted on RooshV.com

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For nearly two decades of my life, I would go to the gym two or three times a week. While I never had huge muscles, my body was athletic and toned. Women would compliment it. I want to claim that I went to the gym to be “healthy,” but my true intention was to be attractive to the opposite sex for the purpose of fornication. When I repented of my sins before God and no longer sought fornication, I decided not to go to the gym anymore. As an Orthodox Christian, working out in a gym today would be exceedingly dangerous to me for the following four reasons.

1. The music is filthy​


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The vehemently secular music that all gyms play is painful to my hymn-loving ears. I don’t want to hear songs about sex, seduction, getting rich, dancing all night in the club, driving expensive cars, and becoming a big boss. Thankfully, I can hardly understand the “English” being sung in most modern songs, especially hip hop, but even then, the Satanically-engineered melody will find a way to worm its way into my brain and remain there for at least a day, distracting my spiritual life with the potential to insert sinful and pornographic ideas.

I strive to listen to no secular music at all, whether modern or oldies, because of how it corrupts my nous (spiritual eyes of the soul). One of the reasons I like shopping at Walmart is because they are one of the only supermarkets I know that don’t usually play music.

2. The women are almost naked​


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There seems to be a competition among gym-going women to see who can display the most skin without technically being naked according to local ordinances. The arrival of “sports bras,” which are still bras (just because you put the word sports in front of them and remove the lace doesn’t mean they should be displayed publicly), confirmed to me that the gym has become like an antechamber to the brothel bedroom. It’s too natural a progression for people who are sweating in little clothing to become enraptured with carnal lust.



I like to think that I can maintain custody of my eye, but inside the gym, half-naked women cavort all around me, and then enter into compromising positions on their yoga mats which immediately sends my mind into the gutter without conscious effort. Yes, I am admitting that I’m too weak to not glance at these women in bras with gigantic bulbous rear-ends when they bend right in front of me. Before I turned to Christ, I actually saw this as a benefit of any gym, for why not be sexually entertained by women to lustfully prepare for an act of fornication? But now, I run away from it.

3. There are too many mirrors​


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I never got to the point where my muscles were impressive, but nonetheless I loved looking at my athletic body in the gym mirrors. I wouldn’t go so far as flex or take selfies of myself, but I would puff out my chest and check out a profile of my body that incorporated my long masculine beard. I’d wonder if I achieved a good-enough pump where the vein in my bicep would remain popped out so that I could later wear an extra-medium v-neck before going to the nightclub for my satanic liturgy.

Since all gyms coat the walls in mirrors, my time in them exercised my pride as much as my body. I came to believe that I have achieved a physical state that was admirable, and that I was better than all the fat people who didn’t go to the gym, including the puny men I would out-compete for sexual favors at the midnight hour. My bulging vein (only in my right arm, not my left) was proof to women that I was a superior male.

The mirrors were my teachers. Over many years, they taught me that my look is the most important part of me, that I had to cherish it if I wanted to continue receiving sexual benefits, and I could maybe consider getting botox injections when I became older to still be sexually attractive to young European women. It encouraged me to focus exclusively on the material. These days, I don’t look in mirrors much and don’t fuss over my appearance. Worldly women don’t look at me either, which I am grateful for, because I know I am only one temptation away from falling back into the mud.

4. Desire to get bigger and bigger muscles for no practical reason​


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You’re never the biggest guy at the gym. There’s always someone who lifts more than you, or who has a better steroid supplier than you, so you will constantly aim to compare yourself to other men to subliminally attract the half-naked women that aggregate around the butt machines. Your body is fine as it is, you’re healthy, but pride ignites within you to be even bigger and stronger, not to lift heavy things outside of the gym, but solely to lift heavier things within the construct of the gym itself to make you think that your body, given to you by God, is an achievement of your own. This temptation makes you a slave to the gym, and begins to cross over into real life as you develop a neurotic obsession with eating the right foods in the right amount. Instead of working out to be fit, you consider waking up in the middle of the night to gulp down a protein shake or eat a chicken breast just to look good in the gym mirror.

Conclusion

Does all this mean I’m anti-fitness? Certainly not. In the neighborhood playground I do callisthenic training a couple of times each week, where my body weight is used as resistance instead of metal plates. I haven’t been inside a gym in three years, and my muscles are certainly weaker, but I’m still alive and able to serve my daily duties before God, which mostly involve reading, writing, praying, and baking. I don’t need engorged muscles for those activities.

For me to go into a gym today, I would need to cover my eyes and ears to not fall back into the world of the material. Every man should ask himself why he wants to go to the gym and get big. Is it to achieve more from the world or to achieve a healthy physical state that optimizes his worship of God? For the role God has given me, where I use my mind more than my body, my modest workouts in the playground are good enough. For most men, push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups, and bodyweight squats will be all they need to stay fit and slim into old age.

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What about having your own workout equipment at home instead Roosh ?
 

newcomer

Robin
Orthodox
I might get rid of the mirrors in my home gym soon, if not the whole thing.
I am not going to use it this Lent and see how it will turn out to be.

You are right about hitting PR being motivated by pride, Roosh.
(I kind of hoped this article would be more hard-hitting, like the TRT one was lol)
 

Paleblood Knight

Sparrow
Protestant
I'm lucky that when I moved into my new house with the wife late last year, there was a summer house with mirrors already that could be used as a gym/office. Since buying the dumbbells, kettlebells, resistance bands, jigsaw mats and some accessories, I've created a space where I can control the environment and also, one good reason is to potentially work out with the wife as I know she sometimes feels insecure in the gym (also I've had years of experience doing all sorts of exercises) and we both need to maintain a healthy level of weight to prevent future health issues.

I agree with that more often than not, the music in gyms ("hip-hop", EDM, banal pop music etc.) were one of the biggest drawbacks of enjoyment of doing a workout as I knew it was NPC-inducing nonsense that poisoned the mind and soul.
 

Trewolla

 
Banned
Protestant
I never worked out in gyms. But during my late teens/early 20s I had a very physically demanding job that put me in the best condition of my life. It felt good to be that strong. I can't imagine it now, but at one point I recall loading a contractor grade cement mixer into the back of a pick up truck by myself. Also, a friend owned an automotive machine shop with a large hot acid tank about chest high. It was nothing for me to lift a stripped V8 auto engine block and set in on the tray that lowered it into the tank.

Being physically fit to that extent is good for both the body and the mind.
 

The Beast1

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
I get the spirit of the blog post, but working out is what purges my mind of depression. Ironically when I first started working out years ago, after a really deep heavy squat I heard a voice in my head and immediately knew I had to repent and attend church.

When I don't work out, it's much easier for me to slip back into sin. I prefer to go to small time gyms with a strong local community where everyone knows each other. Much harder to stare at women when you've met them and know whats going on in their lives.

There's an Instagram account called muscle Christianity that I follow for the enjoyment.

Ask yourself, what's in your heart: Is it Jesus or vanity?
 

thatWay

Sparrow
Orthodox
I can't understand the reasoning behind restricting daily walks? If there's one outlet and escape from the world that really works it's long walks, in nature mostly. I hike 20-30k most days and I would be dead a long time ago without it to be honest.
My guess is that Saint John lived in a very different time where most people were physically active and so aimless walks would be mostly for leisure. So I think it makes sense you wouldn't be going on walks every day.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
I get the spirit of the blog post, but working out is what purges my mind of depression. Ironically when I first started working out years ago, after a really deep heavy squat I heard a voice in my head and immediately knew I had to repent and attend church.

When I don't work out, it's much easier for me to slip back into sin. I prefer to go to small time gyms with a strong local community where everyone knows each other. Much harder to stare at women when you've met them and know whats going on in their lives.

There's an Instagram account called muscle Christianity that I follow for the enjoyment.

Ask yourself, what's in your heart: Is it Jesus or vanity?
How about if you get injured and cannot workout, or you are ill... will you then be constantly depressed? I also have found various tricks to alleviate some problems (e.g. working out does reduce my adrenaline; a quick meal does reduce my "hangry" irritation), but in the long run, we want our spiritual life to address these problems instead of bodily changes.
 

Hermetic Seal

Pelican
Orthodox
Gold Member
One benefit of weightlifting that I’ve personally noticed is that it makes me more alert and focused. When I’ve gone long periods without going to the gym, I’ve felt physically and mentally lethargic and like I’m stuck in some sort of weird funk, and also tend to have trouble sleeping. Not sure if this is often the case with others or not. I haven’t developed big muscles, but these physiological effects seem beneficial.
 

The Beast1

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
How about if you get injured and cannot workout, or you are ill... will you then be constantly depressed? I also have found various tricks to alleviate some problems (e.g. working out does reduce my adrenaline; a quick meal does reduce my "hangry" irritation), but in the long run, we want our spiritual life to address these problems instead of bodily changes.
Honestly, yes. That's exactly what happened during the start of Rona. When I couldn't work out at a gym because of shutdowns, I worked out at home doing body weight exercises, p90x etc etc.

There are army vets with lost limbs who still find ways to work out. Injuries are just ways to get creative.

I work out to control my bodily desires and my anger.

You are right it is important to not lose sight of things. Only the church provides ever lasting life. A gym just makes a strong temporary body. So long as I am able, I will continue to provide a strong and sturdy house for the holy spirit to reside in.
 
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MRBR1908

Robin
Other Christian
Gyms should only be allowed for men looking to gain strength. I've noticed that the majority of females who go to the gym are there to get their ass bigger.

I have thought it would be cool to have a men's only version of a small gym focused solely on strength gain, and maybe a little of other stuff (in my case I row 3-4 times a week for 30 to 60 minutes). Much like Curves is only for women, the gym would use the Max Contraction training method for heavy strength gain, and be a circuit that last just under an hour per person. Once a week. Anyway, that's a dream.

I've got a super great deal where my gym membership is only $100 a year renewal, and I get premium level access, so no way under $10 a month could get me all the benefits of the gym. However, the gym near my house I feel is exactly what has been discussed, it's full of dude bros, some homosexuals, and women in too tight clothing with lots of rap music, way too much flexing, mirror time, etc... as previously discussed. So now I travel twice as far (5 miles each way versus 2) to go to a different gym in same chain, BUT no music plays there, it is full of older gym goers, not as many thots, and so on. Much more relaxing, and I still get the pool, sauna and hot tub.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
I have thought it would be cool to have a men's only version of a small gym focused solely on strength gain, and maybe a little of other stuff (in my case I row 3-4 times a week for 30 to 60 minutes). Much like Curves is only for women, the gym would use the Max Contraction training method for heavy strength gain, and be a circuit that last just under an hour per person. Once a week. Anyway, that's a dream.

I've got a super great deal where my gym membership is only $100 a year renewal, and I get premium level access, so no way under $10 a month could get me all the benefits of the gym. However, the gym near my house I feel is exactly what has been discussed, it's full of dude bros, some homosexuals, and women in too tight clothing with lots of rap music, way too much flexing, mirror time, etc... as previously discussed. So now I travel twice as far (5 miles each way versus 2) to go to a different gym in same chain, BUT no music plays there, it is full of older gym goers, not as many thots, and so on. Much more relaxing, and I still get the pool, sauna and hot tub.


You'd never be able to get away with an overtly all-male gym in the west but you could set one up with an atmosphere, rules (like a dress code), etc geared towards making the clientele all or at least mostly male. No idea how commercially viable that would be but the weird thing for me personally is that even back in the days when my primary goal in life was casual sex with as many women as possible I still preferred a more Spartan gym environment, wanted a home gym (never had the time/space for it back then), wore earphones at the gym and didn't talk to anybody, honestly would've preferred an all male atmosphere, don't remember ever trying to pick up a girl at the gym, etc.
 

MRBR1908

Robin
Other Christian
Yeah, it would be cool, but hard to get away with, but you could "steer" it more masculine. I would like it with a boxing set up as well. women ignore me anyway, so I've got no use for them being around me at a gym. I'm there to workout, get fit, and get back to my life afterward.

My true dream would be a great home gym, plus I would want a sauna (big enough for hot yoga), a hot tub, a cold dip, and a sensory deprivation tank, but that would be a whole garage size place and a lot of money.
 

Brebelle3

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
Yeah, it would be cool, but hard to get away with, but you could "steer" it more masculine. I would like it with a boxing set up as well. women ignore me anyway, so I've got no use for them being around me at a gym. I'm there to workout, get fit, and get back to my life afterward.

My true dream would be a great home gym, plus I would want a sauna (big enough for hot yoga), a hot tub, a cold dip, and a sensory deprivation tank, but that would be a whole garage size place and a lot of money.
That would be awesome.

I'd like to have 10-15 Christian or in search of Him guys with a garage gym. We could pray together, have a fellowship meal after exercise, and maybe a round table where we could discuss how to be better servants of Christ.

My church has a group of men that hike all of the 14ers in Colorado which provides great exercise and fellowship.

Maybe this would be better than exposing oneself to the distractions of a coed gym?

 

Peptalk

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
A few months ago I was at the gym, and some dude was filming this girl's ass close up while she was squatting and dressed like a lady of the night. This is when I decided I was done. I have a simple 90$ bench, a set of bands, an Eztoned bar and some bowflex adjustable dumbells. You can get some real good results with just that. I no longer have to waste mental energy to avoid staring and can stay in shape.
 

MichaelWitcoff

Hummingbird
Orthodox
I’ve been blessed with the undeserved grace of ignoring scantily-clad women at the gym, but I’m also building my home gym this weekend so I won’t have to deal with driving all the way out here and occasionally waiting for a machine. I had a home gym for nearly all of last year before I moved and it’s really an excellent thing to have.

On a related note, I recently switched back to 5x5 after a few years away from it. Thought it would be too simple for me now but I’m definitely getting stronger.
 

MRBR1908

Robin
Other Christian
Still hoping that once the scamdemic blows over all these dudes with too much money who splurged on home gyms, and then go back to the gym dump equipment cheap over the next couple of years. I'll spend some cash and invest in my home gym at that time, and keep my $100 a year membership still, so I have both options.
 

bobmjilica

Sparrow
Working out is important, particularly accumulating strength, and building/protecting your muscle mass, as it is a health conscious action, and can build some character.
That being said, when men go to the gym just to 'look good', they usually spend hours playing with machines and looking themselves in the mirror just to get a 'pump'. Focus on getting stronger in the gym. As Louie Simmons says, a stronger man is harder to kill, and is also better at manual labor, which is what men were built for.
Going to the gym 'to look good' is a feminine and narcissistic endeavor. I've seen many men become sucked into this, where if they eat one 'bad' food they go into a state of panic, or if they can't see 'proper' definition of their abs, they become freaked out. Just pick up heavy stuff and put it down. Don't worry about staying super lean or achieving the 'perfect' look.
Use lifting weights as a supplement to your life to stay healthy and strong. Not as an end goal. Too many people lift weights and stay fit for the sake of staying fit today.
And I agree with Roosh 100% with regards to commercial gyms. They are cess pools of degeneracy. Build yourself a home gym.
Most of the men and women in commercial gyms are fornicators, and use the gym to supplement their fornicating lifestyle. Additionally many of the jacked and roided up dudes at gyms are gay. For young people who think that it will help them to attract a traditional wife: traditional (and most secular) women do not like the bodybuilder look, in fact they find it disgusting.
 

Diadem

Woodpecker
Orthodox
I just hope nobody reads this article and uses it as an excuse not to lift. The truth is lifting is a healthy activity; it increases a persons self confidence, and can be a good atmosphere for socialization. Many young men, and especially the type of people who spend time on internet forums, are either too fat or too skinny or simply unprepared for any physical challenge that they could face in a troubled world such as ours.
I recently switched back to 5x5 after a few years away from it.
Thats a lot of volume - :oops: - pace yourself, Brother!
 
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