4 Reasons Why Lifting In Gyms Is A Bad Idea

Sasha4ever

 
Banned
Orthodox
I am facing big problems with women in my gym. They tend to wear less and less clothes on purpose,some of them have cosmetic procedures. I don't know why this is happening to me but i lose my mind every time, i cant control it. I have noticed most men don't seem to distract from their appearances. They are acting normally like that women don't wear sexy clothes. But to me its like i am living in hell, its so disturbing, all these sexy women bodies are sticking in my mind. I feel like i am the only male who has this problem in my gym. Whats wrong with me??
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
I am facing big problems with women in my gym. They tend to wear less and less clothes on purpose,some of them have cosmetic procedures. I don't know why this is happening to me but i lose my mind every time, i cant control it. I have noticed most men don't seem to distract from their appearances. They are acting normally like that women don't wear sexy clothes. But to me its like i am living in hell, its so disturbing, all these sexy women bodies are sticking in my mind. I feel like i am the only male who has this problem in my gym. Whats wrong with me??
Nothing is wrong with you. What you're talking about is normal. If i were to work out in a public gym, I'd still be looking too. That's another reason to invest in your own equipment. Forgive me, but it sounds like you might not be having as much positive (non lustful) interaction with the opposite sex and that might be part of it. I know when i was fornicating and going to a public gyms and only saw women as sex objects due to my own state of mind... I had similar experiences.

Well when you are exposed to a hupersexualized culture it takes time to unplug from seeing wormens (who present themselves as objects) as little more than vessels for lustful gratification. Getting to know a woman and inculcating the reality that they are icons of Christ is hard to do when you're only seeing women with their junk being highlighted through see through spandex tights...

Most women don't ever realize the degree of sexualization they are opening themselves up to, they just go with the flow of what their peers are doing...that's why they all have tattoos, wear biki tops to the gym, and wear tights that show off their genitals.

If I'm grocery shopping and saw a woman dressed in tights and her breasts hanging out, I'm still going to look. Only now, after the initial look and the initial primal thoughts, i recognize how sad it is for this person that they feel that they need to give it all up in the open instead of the obviously more attractive method of leaving someone with a little mystery.

I would say, for those who want to go to a gym and avoid some of the above, find a powerlifting gym that focused on the powerlifting culture... They're heavily male dominsted and a lot less mostly naked wormens running about.
 

Sasha4ever

 
Banned
Orthodox
Nothing is wrong with you. What you're talking about is normal. If i were to work out in a public gym, I'd still be looking too. That's another reason to invest in your own equipment. Forgive me, but it sounds like you might not be having as much positive (non lustful) interaction with the opposite sex and that might be part of it. I know when i was fornicating and going to a public gyms and only saw women as sex objects due to my own state of mind... I had similar experiences.

Well when you are exposed to a hupersexualized culture it takes time to unplug from seeing wormens (who present themselves as objects) as little more than vessels for lustful gratification. Getting to know a woman and inculcating the reality that they are icons of Christ is hard to do when you're only seeing women with their junk being highlighted through see through spandex tights...

Most women don't ever realize the degree of sexualization they are opening themselves up to, they just go with the flow of what their peers are doing...that's why they all have tattoos, wear biki tops to the gym, and wear tights that show off their genitals.

If I'm grocery shopping and saw a woman dressed in tights and her breasts hanging out, I'm still going to look. Only now, after the initial look and the initial primal thoughts, i recognize how sad it is for this person that they feel that they need to give it all up in the open instead of the obviously more attractive method of leaving someone with a little mystery.

I would say, for those who want to go to a gym and avoid some of the above, find a powerlifting gym that focused on the powerlifting culture... They're heavily male dominsted and a lot less mostly naked wormens running about.
sadly, i don't have space in my house for home gym. In quarantine i used my bedroom but that's not a permanent option.
In the past i can describe myself as an incel guy and not an fornicator. I have stopped to watch porn 3-4 months now but it seems it will take years to recover my brain. Others guys don't look, i have checked it, on the other hand its a nightmare for me to not take a look.
Powerlifting gyms are most expensive here,also i have back,neck and knee history issues so i skip exercises like squats and dead lifts.
 

Psycho Rooster

Pigeon
Orthodox
All you need to get a full body workout is a doorframe pull up bar. I'm about 230lbs and use it for weighted Pull-ups at times, so as long as your not comically obese or 7' tall it should work. Push-ups, pull-ups, squats, shadowboxing, jogging. If you have wood's nearby you can lift rocks and logs,or get gymnast rings and open up a whole other world. Look up calisthenics progressions towards one arm pull-ups, handstand push-ups, pistol squats ect. It isn't just cardio, you can get some serious strength out of calisthenics and you'll be more athletic from moving your own body (and heavy stuff in the woods) than someone using weights. No reason to go to a gym unless you want to learn martial arts, and realistically it doesn't take long to get the fundamentals that you can practice at home if you don't plan on competing.
 

MartyMcFly

Ostrich
Other Christian
All you need to get a full body workout is a doorframe pull up bar. I'm about 230lbs and use it for weighted Pull-ups at times, so as long as your not comically obese or 7' tall it should work. Push-ups, pull-ups, squats, shadowboxing, jogging. If you have wood's nearby you can lift rocks and logs,or get gymnast rings and open up a whole other world. Look up calisthenics progressions towards one arm pull-ups, handstand push-ups, pistol squats ect. It isn't just cardio, you can get some serious strength out of calisthenics and you'll be more athletic from moving your own body (and heavy stuff in the woods) than someone using weights. No reason to go to a gym unless you want to learn martial arts, and realistically it doesn't take long to get the fundamentals that you can practice at home if you don't plan on competing.
Rocky followed similar advice. Go back to the basics; you don't need a fancy gym to get fit.

 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
sadly, i don't have space in my house for home gym. In quarantine i used my bedroom but that's not a permanent option.
In the past i can describe myself as an incel guy and not an fornicator. I have stopped to watch porn 3-4 months now but it seems it will take years to recover my brain. Others guys don't look, i have checked it, on the other hand its a nightmare for me to not take a look.
Powerlifting gyms are most expensive here,also i have back,neck and knee history issues so i skip exercises like squats and dead lifts.
Read the book Convict Conditioning. You don't need gym equipment to stay in shape.
 

Yamamoto the Third

Sparrow
Protestant
My own struggle is that I have used exercise as a false god in the past. Using it as a way to regulate my emotions throughout the week. Not "feeling myself" if I didn't lift even just once or twice during the week.

The word "repent" means to change one's mind. Anything that alters one's psychological state apart from the gospel – whether it be alcohol, work, caffeine, etc, can be a false repentance.

There is some level of physical activity that is necessary to sustain life. I am still testing to find out what that level is. This might require figuring out how to live without "exercising" all the time, which I'm currently trying to do.
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
I don't know about a better feel and attitude, but I think every sport or occupation at a professional level can be harmful and beneficial. I'm talking about myself, and I think there are some unspoken rules that everyone is silent about. Athletes take doping, many drink protein shakes. I shudder to think what will happen to women if they take low-quality supplements. We need to talk about what https://reaperlabz.net/product/testolone-rad-140/ is, what supplements are, and how to take them correctly. Please do another article on this topic
Don't be shilling research chemicals and SARMS. That poison is completely unregulated and you have no idea what you're putting in your body.
 

Gallienus

Chicken
Catholic
Alternate viewpoint.
I'm a slightly older guy, have a scientific background and do weightlifting and work out in a gym. I think there is a lot of evidence that physical exercise is good for men of all ages. It's good for the heart**, and helps people concentrate and think. If one is in an occupation where you get plenty of physical exercise already; then you may not need more. But if not, then physical exercise: i.e. weight lifting and not just cardio, like running, cycling, etc, is very beneficial.

I've had an LA Fitness (or equiv) membership for >30 years. I've never had any problem with the way women dress. 99.5% of them are dressing solely for exercise and don't want to be approached by guys: or at least not by me.

I don't think home gyms are effective at all unless you have a lot of money for one (like 100K). The machines required for good workouts use weights rather than elastic bands. For stability, these machines are extremely heavy. The lighter machines used in some hotel gyms can be dangerous. When one goes to a regular gym you get dressed, drive to the gym and go in. At that point few are really anxious to work out but having driven there you may as well go thru with it and not back out. With a home gym, many people don't use them and the stuff just sits in a corner.

It's done me a lot of good & I'm in better shape physically than 95% of men my age.
** According to "LifeForce" T.Robbins, cardiovascular disease kills 9X more men in the USA than Covid does on an annual basis.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
I don't think home gyms are effective at all unless you have a lot of money for one (like 100K).

Disagree completely....all you really need is a squat cage with adjustable pins, bench, barbell, and some plates. If you look around on Craigslist and Facebook marketplace and you should be able to find all that for less than $1000.
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
Disagree completely....all you really need is a squat cage with adjustable pins, bench, barbell, and some plates. If you look around on Craigslist and Facebook marketplace and you should be able to find all that for less than $1000.
Yep. No need to spend 100k or even 10k

I've got about 8k in mine... But I got a bunch of specialty equipment and bought the really expensive stuff when i thought it mattered.

Realistically a rack, barbell, plates and an adjustable bench can get you for less than 3k new, with nice equipment.

If you can buy local do so because that will save on the shipping.
 

Amata

Chicken
Woman
Orthodox Inquirer
I technically still have a commercial gym membership, but I've not been for a long time now to be honest. I have a pretty good set up of gym equipment at home so it's not necessary really. The only reason I'd go now is for the novelty of more varied equipment, but even then you tend to stick with certain favourite exercises/equipment anyway so I never used half of the equipment there most of the time anyway.

Also, the atmosphere of my gym changed quite a bit. Originally, it was an independent powerlifting gym, and had a great atmosphere. Now, it's still technically an independent chain and has some top level equipment, however it caters far more to the Instagram/social media gym culture and bodybuilding far more than it did before, so it gets busy and I think you can imagine the clientele I mean. In terms of other women, before it was mostly people serious with their training, but now seems to be a lot more attention seeking due to fitness influencer types and bikini competitors. You probably know what I mean if you've been to similar gyms like what Roosh describes. Plus, the music is dreadful. I might cancel the membership actually.
 

Akaky Akakievitch

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Yep. No need to spend 100k or even 10k

I've got about 8k in mine... But I got a bunch of specialty equipment and bought the really expensive stuff when i thought it mattered.

Realistically a rack, barbell, plates and an adjustable bench can get you for less than 3k new, with nice equipment.

If you can buy local do so because that will save on the shipping.

I'd say you could go even simpler than that and way way cheaper. Less than $200 dollars if you're savvy.

Scrap the barbells, the fancy equipment, gym membership, and all the rest.

All you need is some chalk, a dedicated workout space, and some kettlebells. Or, as they call them in Russian, girya. If you master the kettlebells and become super strong, you are known as girevik = "kettlebell man", or for the ladies, girevichka = "kettlebell woman".

Just think, you could be like this guy, a true girevik:

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[from "Enter the Kettlebell" from Pavel Tsatsouline]

Sound like fun?

Start here: https://www.strongfirst.com - this is Pavel Tsatsouline's international strength training academy. I'm currently on his "Simple & Sinister" program, which is a bare basics strength training course, where you start where your at strength-wise and, with commitment and focus, can go as far as you want. It takes you all the way to a certification but you stop wherever's good for you. I'm just at the beginning really, a couple weeks in but was playing with it for months before.

If you want strength that matters in the real world, that's affordable and easy to begin, look no further than the kettlebell.

...Obviously, I'm being a bit over-zealous here trying to showcase the power of this piece of equipment, and personally I'm seeking to move onto bodyweight and barbell fundamentals once I reach a certain level. But I would highly recommend anyone to invest in some high-quality cast-iron kettlebells, because they last a lifetime and it's pretty much a handheld gym you can take with you anywhere. The potential with them is endless. Just make sure they are high quality and in a couple years time, you'll be crossing yourself like your man Pyotr Kryloff here!
 
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BasilSeal

Kingfisher
Trad Catholic
Gold Member
The total gym 1500 in my basement (that I purchased over two decades ago), is still my favorite piece of gym equipment. It is so easy to modify to accept additional weight on the bed. All of the wearable parts (rollers, etc) are easily procured on Amazon. You can work almost everything with it. And, it is endorsed by Chuck Norris. Gets my full endorsement for medium impact, upper and lower body strength exercises.
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
I'd say you could go even simpler than that and way way cheaper. Less than $200 dollars if you're savvy.

Scrap the barbells, the fancy equipment, gym membership, and all the rest.

All you need is some chalk, a dedicated workout space, and some kettlebells. Or, as they call them in Russian, girya. If you master the kettlebells and become super strong, you are known as girevik = "kettlebell man", or for the ladies, girevichka = "kettlebell woman".

Just think, you could be like this guy, a true girevik:

View attachment 40957
[from "Enter the Kettlebell" from Pavel Tsatsouline]

Sound like fun?

Start here: https://www.strongfirst.com - this is Pavel Tsatsouline's international strength training academy. I'm currently on his "Simple & Sinister" program, which is a bare basics strength training course, where you start where your at strength-wise and, with commitment and focus, can go as far as you want. It takes you all the way to a certification but you stop wherever's good for you. I'm just at the beginning really, a couple weeks in but was playing with it for months before.

If you want strength that matters in the real world, that's affordable and easy to begin, look no further than the kettlebell.

...Obviously, I'm being a bit over-zealous here trying to showcase the power of this piece of equipment, and personally I'm seeking to move onto bodyweight and barbell fundamentals once I reach a certain level. But I would highly recommend anyone to invest in some high-quality cast-iron kettlebells, because they last a lifetime and it's pretty much a handheld gym you can take with you anywhere. The potential with them is endless. Just make sure they are high quality and in a couple years time, you'll be crossing yourself like your man Pyotr Kryloff here!
Kettle bells are a valuable piece of equipment... But not a substitute for weights.
How you look is mostly diet, then genetic, then weight training/exercise.

If you have no space the kbs are great... But when you can afford the price and space, there is no substitute for a barbell regime.
 

rodion

Robin
Orthodox
I'd say you could go even simpler than that and way way cheaper. Less than $200 dollars if you're savvy.

Scrap the barbells, the fancy equipment, gym membership, and all the rest.

All you need is some chalk, a dedicated workout space, and some kettlebells. Or, as they call them in Russian, girya. If you master the kettlebells and become super strong, you are known as girevik = "kettlebell man", or for the ladies, girevichka = "kettlebell woman".

Just think, you could be like this guy, a true girevik:

View attachment 40957
[from "Enter the Kettlebell" from Pavel Tsatsouline]

Sound like fun?

Start here: https://www.strongfirst.com - this is Pavel Tsatsouline's international strength training academy. I'm currently on his "Simple & Sinister" program, which is a bare basics strength training course, where you start where your at strength-wise and, with commitment and focus, can go as far as you want. It takes you all the way to a certification but you stop wherever's good for you. I'm just at the beginning really, a couple weeks in but was playing with it for months before.

If you want strength that matters in the real world, that's affordable and easy to begin, look no further than the kettlebell.

...Obviously, I'm being a bit over-zealous here trying to showcase the power of this piece of equipment, and personally I'm seeking to move onto bodyweight and barbell fundamentals once I reach a certain level. But I would highly recommend anyone to invest in some high-quality cast-iron kettlebells, because they last a lifetime and it's pretty much a handheld gym you can take with you anywhere. The potential with them is endless. Just make sure they are high quality and in a couple years time, you'll be crossing yourself like your man Pyotr Kryloff here!
Kettlebells are legit.

In march 2020 I missed a 200kg deadlift, then lockdown hit. I did nothing but simple and sinister, working up to a 40kg kettlebell. First day back in the gym in July and I repped 200kg on the deadlift comfortably.

Barbells are the best for maximising muscle mass and brute strength. But for just being fit, lean and looking half decent all you really need are kettlebells and calisthenics
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
Kettlebells are legit.

In march 2020 I missed a 200kg deadlift, then lockdown hit. I did nothing but simple and sinister, working up to a 40kg kettlebell. First day back in the gym in July and I repped 200kg on the deadlift comfortably.

Barbells are the best for maximising muscle mass and brute strength. But for just being fit, lean and looking half decent all you really need are kettlebells and calisthenics
They all have their place. As you say, there is no replacement for barbell training... which you can easily set up in your home/grarage... I like the Thompson Fatbells a lot also instead of kettlebells, but use both.

Andy Bolton (first man to deadlift 1000 lbs, no straps, in a powerlifting meet) used to do tons of kettlebell swings to develop muscle memory for pulling your hips through in the Deadlift. He would swing kb's for several sets after deadlifting. Turns out it mirrors your Deadlift form in most cases.

Donnie Thompson (first man to total 3000 lbs in a full powerliftingmeet) used to do swings with an 80 lb kettlebell in between sets of squats for conditioning. At 300+ lbs the dude was one of the fittest people on the planet and a gas tank for days.

 

DanielH

Hummingbird
Moderator
Orthodox
Went to the gym with the Mrs. yesterday. Really surprised at the attire of the women. They never wore much, but with the warm weather, many were wearing these yoga pant short type things that's skin tight and not even black, so you can see every curve. Then as a top literally just a bra. My wife had to comment on it. This was much more rare at the more male oriented gym I used to go to. This is an LA Fitness. I think we might have to cancel the gym membership which is a shame. I'm imagining the conversation with the gym manager "Why are you leaving us?" "The women here are naked." ":hmm:... [no programmed response found in database] Okay sorry to see you go!"
 

Pete345

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I listen to Orthodox chant while working out, I ignore the thots except to kindly encourage them to get out of the way and not use the equipment for photoshoot props, and I only look in the mirror to check my form (so I don't injure myself). I am somewhat older and not staying fit results in a bad health spiral that will quickly careen out of control.
 
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