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<blockquote data-quote="infowarrior1" data-source="post: 1480076" data-attributes="member: 6516">Even Caesar required loyal competent men at their back and call. Even as their personalities were magnetic and their strategies perfect. They cannot do much on their own.Even the perfect leadership of Aurelian later on was destroyed by treachery by a bureaucrat who forged a fake document of execution of the top officers of the Army. And he was murdered not long after to the regret of officers who then later found out.Even many previous great Emperors of Rome died at the hands of Praetorian guards. So even if a Caesar is perfectly virtuous not even his leadership is guaranteed if moral decay has undermined the soldiers&#039; sense of duty and honor as much as such moral decay affects other key areas of society.God cannot on the other hand be murdered by treachery or revenge. Since God has already experienced this in the person of Jesus Christ its impossible for that to happen again.Also why we are extorted to leave vengeance in God&#039;s as well as the State&#039;s hands since they could handle attempted revenge on themselves far better. The long list of crushed revolts can testify.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="infowarrior1, post: 1480076, member: 6516"] Even Caesar required loyal competent men at their back and call. Even as their personalities were magnetic and their strategies perfect. They cannot do much on their own. Even the perfect leadership of Aurelian later on was destroyed by treachery by a bureaucrat who forged a fake document of execution of the top officers of the Army. And he was murdered not long after to the regret of officers who then later found out. Even many previous great Emperors of Rome died at the hands of Praetorian guards. So even if a Caesar is perfectly virtuous not even his leadership is guaranteed if moral decay has undermined the soldiers' sense of duty and honor as much as such moral decay affects other key areas of society. God cannot on the other hand be murdered by treachery or revenge. Since God has already experienced this in the person of Jesus Christ its impossible for that to happen again. Also why we are extorted to leave vengeance in God's as well as the State's hands since they could handle attempted revenge on themselves far better. The long list of crushed revolts can testify. [/QUOTE]

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