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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas More" data-source="post: 1492157" data-attributes="member: 8402">So does setting a broken bone, or pulling a drowning person from the water. Natural is not always good, and is not always God&#039;s will. Fornication is natural, and so is murdering people you hate. Civilization is unnatural.This false worship of the natural is a secular, leftist hangover from European Romanticism in the 1800s.Edit: I would say that many men over 40 can maintain high levels of T naturally, and that the steps to raise T naturally are also the basis for healthy living generally. I wouldn&#039;t recommend TRT for these men. Furthermore, I would raise a warning based on personal experience that if you do TRT, and eventually go off of it, your body will have a harder time returning to natural production. To some degree, going on TRT is a lifetime decision, since you will be completely replacing your natural T production with an artificial source.If your T levels are naturally low enough to generate undesirable side effects, then I think it is reasonable to do TRT to raise your levels back into the normal healthy range somewhere between 700 and 1000. I agree with get2Choppaaa that a healthy T level can be balanced with a sanctified life. However, I agree with Roosh&#039;s warning that a person can become fixated on maxxing T for the purpose of feeling horny and pursuing illicit sex aggressively, and this problematic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas More, post: 1492157, member: 8402"] So does setting a broken bone, or pulling a drowning person from the water. Natural is not always good, and is not always God's will. Fornication is natural, and so is murdering people you hate. Civilization is unnatural. This false worship of the natural is a secular, leftist hangover from European Romanticism in the 1800s. Edit: I would say that many men over 40 can maintain high levels of T naturally, and that the steps to raise T naturally are also the basis for healthy living generally. I wouldn't recommend TRT for these men. Furthermore, I would raise a warning based on personal experience that if you do TRT, and eventually go off of it, your body will have a harder time returning to natural production. To some degree, going on TRT is a lifetime decision, since you will be completely replacing your natural T production with an artificial source. If your T levels are naturally low enough to generate undesirable side effects, then I think it is reasonable to do TRT to raise your levels back into the normal healthy range somewhere between 700 and 1000. I agree with get2Choppaaa that a healthy T level can be balanced with a sanctified life. However, I agree with Roosh's warning that a person can become fixated on maxxing T for the purpose of feeling horny and pursuing illicit sex aggressively, and this problematic. [/QUOTE]

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