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<blockquote data-quote="NotaBene" data-source="post: 1515201" data-attributes="member: 23332">Love the article, disagree with the part on submission.&nbsp; Wives are told multiple times in scripture to submit to/obey their husbands *as they submit to Christ* himself.&nbsp; Nowhere are husbands told to do the same thing.&nbsp; It&#039;s different.&nbsp; I&#039;ve been married over 20 years, and my wife submits to me in everything because she knows her place in the church, our family, and God&#039;s kingdom.&nbsp; She knows what the Word says and puts it into practice.&nbsp; It tells her to be silent in church and to cover her head in prayer, and she does these things, too.&nbsp; It&#039;s not &quot;cartoonish&quot; but brutally effective in being a witness to other women - who frequently cannot understand her - but know they want what she has, a happy, fulfilled marriage and life of purpose.&nbsp; She is training several women to be better wives, as the Bible tells older women to do.Your caricature/strawman paragraph doesn&#039;t work - you call it &quot;cartoonish&quot; but you made that up yourself.&nbsp; It&#039;s dramatic and does not represent reality or scripture well.&nbsp; But if it&#039;s a choice between your &quot;taliban&quot; style approach and a life of American simphood, I&#039;ll take the former, and gladly.Consider that simp husbands who do most of the housework and his ladyship&#039;s bidding are actually less respected, have less sex on average, and their wives frequently report that they wish their husbands were more assertive and more dominant.&nbsp; I&#039;m not saying husbands should be ultra-alphas and never do *any* housework, I&#039;m saying that household chores are the domain of the keeper of the home.&nbsp; In a marriage, that is the wife.&nbsp; That is why the Bible commands women to be &quot;busy at home&quot; and Proverbs 31 lists some of her duties.&nbsp; Husbands are given no such instructions.&nbsp; They have other duties.&quot;Thus a good marriage is not a matter of one partner obeying the other, but of both partners obeying each other.&quot;That is simply ridiculous, a twisting of scripture.&nbsp; Again, wives are given direct orders to obey their husbands, never the other way around.Men are called to *love* their wives by protecting and providing for them (not by being simps), women are called to submit to and obey their husbands.&nbsp; When you keep frame in your house, you are actually making her job *easier* because women find it easier to submit to/obey a man who is more dominant than herself.A husband is the head of the family.&nbsp; &quot;A wife of noble character is her husband&#039;s crown.&quot;&nbsp; My wife is my crown, the symbol of my authority.&nbsp; Under the freedom that brings to our relationship, I can breathe easier, and have headspace to consider her needs and the direction of our family.&nbsp; I wish all husbands this freedom.&nbsp; It is not mutual obedience, at all, it is merely a recognition of the authority structure in the family that God has instituted.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NotaBene, post: 1515201, member: 23332"] Love the article, disagree with the part on submission. Wives are told multiple times in scripture to submit to/obey their husbands *as they submit to Christ* himself. Nowhere are husbands told to do the same thing. It's different. I've been married over 20 years, and my wife submits to me in everything because she knows her place in the church, our family, and God's kingdom. She knows what the Word says and puts it into practice. It tells her to be silent in church and to cover her head in prayer, and she does these things, too. It's not "cartoonish" but brutally effective in being a witness to other women - who frequently cannot understand her - but know they want what she has, a happy, fulfilled marriage and life of purpose. She is training several women to be better wives, as the Bible tells older women to do. Your caricature/strawman paragraph doesn't work - you call it "cartoonish" but you made that up yourself. It's dramatic and does not represent reality or scripture well. But if it's a choice between your "taliban" style approach and a life of American simphood, I'll take the former, and gladly. Consider that simp husbands who do most of the housework and his ladyship's bidding are actually less respected, have less sex on average, and their wives frequently report that they wish their husbands were more assertive and more dominant. I'm not saying husbands should be ultra-alphas and never do *any* housework, I'm saying that household chores are the domain of the keeper of the home. In a marriage, that is the wife. That is why the Bible commands women to be "busy at home" and Proverbs 31 lists some of her duties. Husbands are given no such instructions. They have other duties. "Thus a good marriage is not a matter of one partner obeying the other, but of both partners obeying each other." That is simply ridiculous, a twisting of scripture. Again, wives are given direct orders to obey their husbands, never the other way around. Men are called to *love* their wives by protecting and providing for them (not by being simps), women are called to submit to and obey their husbands. When you keep frame in your house, you are actually making her job *easier* because women find it easier to submit to/obey a man who is more dominant than herself. A husband is the head of the family. "A wife of noble character is her husband's crown." My wife is my crown, the symbol of my authority. Under the freedom that brings to our relationship, I can breathe easier, and have headspace to consider her needs and the direction of our family. I wish all husbands this freedom. It is not mutual obedience, at all, it is merely a recognition of the authority structure in the family that God has instituted. [/QUOTE]

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