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<blockquote data-quote="NotaBene" data-source="post: 1515462" data-attributes="member: 23332">I didn&#039;t even like the context.&nbsp; To be fair, I grew up in the more liberal evangelical church you speak of.&nbsp; So I have a radar for complimentarian, mutual submission crap, because it isn&#039;t scriptural, and doesn&#039;t even work.&nbsp; But if you are correct, and it&#039;s not that at all, then perhaps a better translation (or more context) is needed.A king does not cease to be a king because he is merciful, admits a mistake, or seeks advice.&nbsp; The husband is the head of the home, and is put in that position by God, no matter his personality.&nbsp; A wife makes it easier for him to be a good king when she submits to his authority.&nbsp; You can use words like &quot;counterpart&quot; but a better word is &quot;helper&quot;.&nbsp; The same word &quot;submit&quot; is used of both slaves/masters and wives/husbands.&nbsp; Sarah is held up as a NT example precisely because she calls her husband &quot;master&quot; and submits.Show me in scripture where it&#039;s the duty of the wife to &quot;identify blind spots&quot; in her husband.&nbsp; That is feminist crap, trying to be a husband&#039;s personal Holy Spirit.&nbsp; This leads to nagging and resentment.&nbsp; It does not work.&nbsp; It is not a wife&#039;s job to convict her husband, that is God&#039;s job. Her job is to submit, run the household, and pray for her husband.There are many times when someone close to you assumes different roles.&nbsp; CS Lewis has an interesting take on this in regards to his wife if you want to dig up the quote.&nbsp; There are certainly times when my wife has acted like a child, and other times when she&#039;s been like the mother I never had.&nbsp; That doesn&#039;t mean I go around calling her that, she is generally my best friend before anything else.&nbsp; But when direction or family guidance is needed, or questions on scripture need answering (remember wives are told to ask their husbands at home), I quickly assume the role of father/pastor.&nbsp; These roles are fluid and can shift in a second, but the relationship is many-faceted.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NotaBene, post: 1515462, member: 23332"] I didn't even like the context. To be fair, I grew up in the more liberal evangelical church you speak of. So I have a radar for complimentarian, mutual submission crap, because it isn't scriptural, and doesn't even work. But if you are correct, and it's not that at all, then perhaps a better translation (or more context) is needed. A king does not cease to be a king because he is merciful, admits a mistake, or seeks advice. The husband is the head of the home, and is put in that position by God, no matter his personality. A wife makes it easier for him to be a good king when she submits to his authority. You can use words like "counterpart" but a better word is "helper". The same word "submit" is used of both slaves/masters and wives/husbands. Sarah is held up as a NT example precisely because she calls her husband "master" and submits. Show me in scripture where it's the duty of the wife to "identify blind spots" in her husband. That is feminist crap, trying to be a husband's personal Holy Spirit. This leads to nagging and resentment. It does not work. It is not a wife's job to convict her husband, that is God's job. Her job is to submit, run the household, and pray for her husband. There are many times when someone close to you assumes different roles. CS Lewis has an interesting take on this in regards to his wife if you want to dig up the quote. There are certainly times when my wife has acted like a child, and other times when she's been like the mother I never had. That doesn't mean I go around calling her that, she is generally my best friend before anything else. But when direction or family guidance is needed, or questions on scripture need answering (remember wives are told to ask their husbands at home), I quickly assume the role of father/pastor. These roles are fluid and can shift in a second, but the relationship is many-faceted. [/QUOTE]

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