5G and Coronavirus

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Robin
Some fresh meat for you:

Measuring Electrosmog Pollution through 5G radiation with measurement technology by Gigahertz-Solutions
Very worth reading, explains a lot on radiation.
Questions:
* Does the 5G frequency spectrum really reach 100 GHz?
* At which frequencies does 5G transmit?
* Are 5G frequencies above 30 GHz particularly harmful?
* Why are the 5G frequencies below 6 GHz particularly critical?
* Why does the market launch of 5G start with the lower frequencies?
* Can you measure 5G yourself?
* Can conventional electrosmog measurement technology measure the 5G modulation correctly?
https://www.gigahertz-solutions.de/en/5g/frequencies-and-meters
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Psalm27

Sparrow
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Roosh said:
paninaro said:
Roosh said:
The purpose of 5G would more logically be needed to upgrade bandwidth and network power to handle the massive increase in population surveillance in the name of protecting the public from the virus.
You don't need much bandwidth to do this. Phones have been doing this for years -- the "cell" in cellphones refers to each tower which is a cell. Even before smartphones, the wireless communications channel on cellphones has a voice channel and a signaling channel used to coordinate handing off a call between cells, like as you drive along and get closer to one cell and further from the one you were using. That signaling channel does the tracking, and it's also how SMS (text messages) first came about -- the engineers realized there was so much bandwidth available on the signaling channel that they might as well let people send text messages on it. (Text messages these days mostly go on the data network instead, like with Whatsapp and iMessage).

So even with 2G, they can pinpoint your rough location by triangulating based on distance from each of the cells. For more accurate data, you can rely on a phone's GPS data, but that's also very low bandwidth -- just send the phone's unique identifier and the GPS coordinates. That's just a tiny bit of data.

Besides, the vast majority of people don't even have 5G-capable phones. The first 5G chipsets were released about a year ago, and the first all 5G phone came out last month (Samsung Galaxy S20).

The technology has existed for years to do surveillance, and 5G is not required for this.
I never stated that 5G is "required" for greater surveillance, but with internet networks overloaded with quarantine, I would guess that the extra bandwidth would, at the minimum, be more helpful.
5G is also the same tech that is used by self-driving car radars. You can potentially use it to 3D map the areas surrounding the 5G antenna and track moving objects with much more accuracy than GPS.
 

CynicalContrarian

Peacock
Gold Member
Don't worry folks!
The mainstream media is here to set things right!

Don't pay attention to all those silly conspiracy theories!
The news outlets have the answers!


Why the 5G coronavirus conspiracy theory is physically impossible: Doctor explains viruses CANNOT travel on radio waves and can only enter the body at specific points
- GP Gero Baiarda has explained why the COVID-19 conspiracies are fake news
- The virus is passed by direct human contact, coughing or via touched surfaces
- 5G does not generate the virus, nor does it weaken the body's immune system
- To avoid COVID-19, people should practice hand washing and social distancing

...
Dr Baiarda dismissed claims that 5G signals act to weaken the human immune system, saying: '5G radio waves carry too little energy to cause harm.
'There have been many research studies that demonstrate this beyond all doubt.
'The wavelengths emitted from your microwave oven are more powerful than 5G – both are perfectly safe.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...-conspiracy-theory-physically-impossible.html
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
This is a red herring and only gaining ground now because people are already in a state of fear from everything else that is going on.

The mind control is done psychologically through mass media and societal conditioning. It's done through "software" if you like, which is far more effective than anything you can do with "hardware" or a radio signal.

The Human Condition is well known by the controlling elites and their mystery schools. Most people are already deeply mind controlled.

It's true that 5G will facilitate tighter control, but not because of the effect of the electromagnetic energy - rather the ungodly ultra HD media that people welcome straight into their soul through the high speed connection. The ability of the providers to pinpoint your exact location is to a higher accuracy, but lets face it - if you have a cell phone on you they already know where you are.
 

kamoz

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Roosh said:
paninaro said:
Roosh said:
The purpose of 5G would more logically be needed to upgrade bandwidth and network power to handle the massive increase in population surveillance in the name of protecting the public from the virus.
You don't need much bandwidth to do this. Phones have been doing this for years -- the "cell" in cellphones refers to each tower which is a cell. Even before smartphones, the wireless communications channel on cellphones has a voice channel and a signaling channel used to coordinate handing off a call between cells, like as you drive along and get closer to one cell and further from the one you were using. That signaling channel does the tracking, and it's also how SMS (text messages) first came about -- the engineers realized there was so much bandwidth available on the signaling channel that they might as well let people send text messages on it. (Text messages these days mostly go on the data network instead, like with Whatsapp and iMessage).

So even with 2G, they can pinpoint your rough location by triangulating based on distance from each of the cells. For more accurate data, you can rely on a phone's GPS data, but that's also very low bandwidth -- just send the phone's unique identifier and the GPS coordinates. That's just a tiny bit of data.

Besides, the vast majority of people don't even have 5G-capable phones. The first 5G chipsets were released about a year ago, and the first all 5G phone came out last month (Samsung Galaxy S20).

The technology has existed for years to do surveillance, and 5G is not required for this.
I never stated that 5G is "required" for greater surveillance, but with internet networks overloaded with quarantine, I would guess that the extra bandwidth would, at the minimum, be more helpful.
Anyone notice their internet at home is much slower now that everyone is at home streaming Netflix and porn? Although not directly related (cable internet vs cell data) this situation might be used to further push this narrative.
 

kel

Kingfisher
At work we've been using Google video meetings (I think the product is called "meet" now, though you still get links that say "hangouts" sometimes - Google puts out a new video or text chatting app/system every two weeks it seems) and they're really laggy and poor quality. Some of that might be people's connections, but honestly I think they just weren't ready for this spike in usage.
 

EvanWilson

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I had a chance to talk with one of my friends that was working at Frontier Communications a few months ago. His was mainly working on rural broadband installations. I mentioned to him that the 5G rollout across the USA should be a big help since it would be easier to connect rural areas since they would not need to do all kinds of additional wiring; just put up more 5G towers to cover the area. Prior to talking with him my impression that 5G would cover a much larger area than typical cell phone signals and provide greater coverage. He told me that 5G is really not that good since it IS effected by anything in the way and really needs a line of sight to work properly; so 5G networks will do especially poor in built up areas like city centers with large buildings.

While he did agree that 5G could do things that typical signals could not do over long distances, like say 20 or 30 miles, if conditions were just right, he did not think that the 5G technology would be much, if any, improvement over other technologies currently available for internet broadband.
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
I've only watched the first 15 mins of this video - but this is the mechanism of control. It's "software" (media) not "hardware" (radio frequency).

Seems this guys is an ex stunt double with an insight on Hollywood.

 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
Captain Gh said:
Check out the posting history of Enhanced Eddie! He previously posted key studies from scientists who voiced concerned over this new 5G Tech!
I think it's overdue for me to make a mini data-sheet about this topic, since this is an area I've researched in great depth for personal reasons. I've had severe health effects from microwave radiation ever since 4g hit the market. In fact it's likely that if you have health issues, some of them are due to EMFs and you just don't know... I didn't know for years.

My symptoms started with insomnia and got gradually worse over the years... then inability to concentrate on work, then reduced libido, and finally depression. All four symptoms have cleared up completely ever since I started protecting myself from this radiation.

I'll add that this couldn't have been a placebo, because I had no idea 4g even existed at the time, and I didn't trace these symptoms back to microwave radiation until 5 years later. So I first got the symptoms, then (much later) the idea that it might be connected to radiation... which turned out to be true.





The fact that 4g seriously disrupts my health makes me more susceptible than most people, but make no mistake: it is very harmful to everyone in the long run. Other friends of mine have also been able to heal all kinds of health issues simply by shielding from wifi, 4g, bluetooth, and anything "smart".

Yes 5g is bad, but that's barely the tip of the iceberg. All the older microwave technology is also extremely harmful to health. Is there a direct connection to corona virus, beyond weakening people's immune systems, which EMFs indisputably do? I have no idea. But we definitely need to stop 5g, corona or not. We even need to roll back 4g and the new 2.4GHz and 5GHz WiFi technologies.

For some science, the Bio Initiative study is probably the best source to look at. The mechanism that makes these frequencies harmful to human health is the disruption of voltage gated calcium channels. We are bio-electric beings, our entire nervous system runs on electric impulses.

Here are some of the bio initiative conclusions about health effects:
https://bioinitiative.org/conclusions/

This is not a website made by conspiracy kooks. The team that put it together are a powerhouse of expertise and credentials:
https://bioinitiative.org/participants/

Their work is based on about 2600 peer-reviewed scientific studies. Yes you will find studies that say non-ionizing radiation is safe, but most these studies are funded by the industry. Similar to how there were industry-funded studies casting doubt on the health effects of smoking or even asbestos several decades ago.

The overwhelming majority of independent studies concludes that electromagnetic fields and especially microwave radiation (such as 4g, 5g, Wifi, Bluetooth, smart anything) is extremely harmful to human health, even though it does not break ionic bonds.

The bio initiative is the best place to start looking into the science, but it is by no means the only one. EMF Portal has tens of thousands more peer-reviewed scientific articles on this subject.
https://www.emf-portal.org/

These technologies are dodgy as fuck, and they clearly have negative effects on biological life forms. I'm convinced the reduction in biomass of our insect populations is directly linked to the emergence of cell phone tech, as they occurred at the same time and the impact on insects is obvious:


If you want to learn more about this topic, including suggestions on how to protect yourself, reduce your exposure and shield your home or at the very least the area where you sleep, here are two resources to get you started (you can dive deeper into the rabbit hole from there if you want):

The "Non Tinfoil Guide to EMFs" by Nicolas Pineault:
https://www.amazon.com/Non-Tinfoil-Guide-EMFs-Stupid-Technology/dp/1976109124/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1

The "Electric Sense" blog by Lloyd Burrell:
https://www.electricsense.com/

I'm sure a major reason why we see more mental disorder and depression than ever before are smart phones, and in more ways than one. Yes there's the damaging effects of narcissistic and isolating social media, but there's also the constant exposure of our brains and nervous systems to microwave radiation.

By the year 2020, depression is projected to reach second place in the ranking of Disability Adjusted Life Years (DALY) calculated for all ages. Today, depression already is the second cause of DALYs in the age category 15-44 years.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137804/

Finally, for those more inclined to watch a youtube video than dig into scientific studies or even books or blogs, here's a TED talk to get you started on that:


And finally a documentary, a bit on the sensationalist side, but has some good data as well... as always just do your own due diligence and fact-checking. From personal experience and from doing that work myself, I can assure you, the massive negative health effects of EMFs are very real.


Any questions, let me know... hope that was helpful to some!

Enhanced Eddie
 

TheMost

Robin
Thank you, great references, hope to have some questions for you soon. I want to build small sleeping shelters to get away from the electro-smog. And is the problem 4G, or are there ground current issues as well? How to tell? I'm 500 yards away from some quite high voltage power transmission lines.
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
Enhanced Eddie said:

This data is from 2002! That's before even 3G was around... Why are you putting this in a thread about 5G, and talking about 4G! The technologies are vastly different.

This is the problem with these "secret knowledge" guys.

"since this is an area I've researched in great depth"

You mean you've spent years finding graphs and tables that fit your cognitive bias without actually understanding their origin or what they mean.
 

Stats

Robin
Eddie would be great if you can share what you did personally to reduce exposure. what worked what didnt.

And Sooth you are wrong. they are very related. The 5G antenas do not soley emit new 5G frequencies. they also emit all the same frequencies that 3 and 4G use in addition to being able to emit the higher frequencies. so in addition to the effects on the chart we can add possible other symptoms of difficulty breathing and low blood oxygen levels.
 

Stats

Robin
TheMost said:
Thank you, great references, hope to have some questions for you soon. I want to build small sleeping shelters to get away from the electro-smog. And is the problem 4G, or are there ground current issues as well? How to tell? I'm 500 yards away from some quite high voltage power transmission lines.
You could use a emf meter. Power lines are very low frequency 50-60hz. so generally that would suggest that the emf they emit travels through obejects better compared to higher frequencies. this also means they will interact less with your biology. potentially less risk then higher frequency emf. but also harder to block with shielding.
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
Stats said:
Eddie would be great if you can share what you did personally to reduce exposure. what worked what didnt.

And Sooth you are wrong. they are very related. The 5G antenas do not soley emit new 5G frequencies. they also emit all the same frequencies that 3 and 4G use in addition to being able to emit the higher frequencies. so in addition to the effects on the chart we can add possible other symptoms of difficulty breathing and low blood oxygen levels.
I give up.

I urge anyone looking into this to only take information from someone that has the required credentials to prove they actually understand the technology.

 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
TheMost said:
And is the problem 4G, or are there ground current issues as well? How to tell? I'm 500 yards away from some quite high voltage power transmission lines.
I've not looked into power lines much since I don't live close to any, but as far as I understand, those are ELF (extremely low frequency) and among the most harmful EMFs. You will need a separate meter for those.

For most people, the main causes of health issues from EMF will stem from 1. microwave radiation, 2. electric fields, 3. magnetic fields and 4. dirty electricity. For 1, I recommend getting an "acousticom 2", for 2 and 3 a "pocket PF meter" from the same company (EMFields), and for 4 a "stetzerizer meter".

TheMost said:
This data is from 2002! That's before even 3G was around...
Correct, this is from the 2002 Santini study. It's a great study to point to, and still relevant today, because

1. it demonstrates that YES, electromagnetic fields are a health issue
2. it demonstrates which health problems are caused by EM radiation
3. it demonstrates that the the distance from a cell towers is directly proportional to how often people experience these symptoms

Simple question: do you think we have more, or less exposure to man-made electromagnetic radiation than in 2002? Do you think the fields we have now are stronger or weaker? More or less intense? More or less harmful?

Common sense can give anyone a pretty good idea but if not, dig into the studies and material I linked up above.

Why are you putting this in a thread about 5G, and talking about 4G!
This is a thread about the connection between Covid-19 and 5g. My post demonstrates that microwave radiation weakens the immune system, so it is relevant. I assume 5g played a role in the worst 3 outbreaks in Wuhan, NYC and Northern Italy. All three regions have 5g. At the very least, it's bound to have damaged people's immune systems there.

The technologies are vastly different.
Yes, 5g is vastly more powerful and vastly more harmful, for a number of reasons. Plenty of data here: https://www.electricsense.com/5g-radiation-dangers/

This is the problem with these "secret knowledge" guys.
Very rude comment and very stupid. I'm not talking about any secret knowledge, I linked up literally thousands of peer-reviewed scientific studies.

Stats said:
Eddie would be great if you can share what you did personally to reduce exposure. what worked what didnt.
First I shielded just my bed buy building a makeshift Faraday cage made of materials from the hardware store... aluminium mesh, iron mesh, mylar (emergency blankets), tin foil, aluminium impact sound isolation material, chicken wire, aluminium mosquito screens, and so forth. That worked great, but it's a shit ton of work to put together properly.

Then I started buying professional shielding material, such as a canopy for the bed, a sleeping bag, and certain accessories like clothes. Those work somewhat well, not great but okay. They're better than nothing and ideal for travel.

Then there's professional shielding material for buildings, such as shielding paints, shielding wall papers, shielding fabrics you can hang at your walls and so forth. I'm also going to look into getting big aluminium plates and copper plates for my walls.

With any attempt to shield, you need to use a meter and measure because shielding can sometimes make things worse.

And Sooth you are wrong. they are very related. The 5G antenas do not soley emit new 5G frequencies. they also emit all the same frequencies that 3 and 4G use in addition to being able to emit the higher frequencies. so in addition to the effects on the chart we can add possible other symptoms of difficulty breathing and low blood oxygen levels.
Correct. 5g antennas are currently still operating on the 4g frequencies, which are in the single digit GHz range. It's possible that the higher frequencies are already being emitted secretly for testing purposes.

TheMost said:
I give up.
Good lol. I've posted a truckload of science and you reply with emotional nonsense. There are always some blue pillers who still believe the mainstream narrative about anything, they will be the first to tell you that "akshually, non ionizing radiation is harmless".

It's nonsense. Ionization isn't the only effect radiation can have on our biology... see my previous post.
 

void

Pelican
Sooth said:
Enhanced Eddie said:

This data is from 2002! That's before even 3G was around... Why are you putting this in a thread about 5G, and talking about 4G! The technologies are vastly different.

This is the problem with these "secret knowledge" guys.

"since this is an area I've researched in great depth"

You mean you've spent years finding graphs and tables that fit your cognitive bias without actually understanding their origin or what they mean.
Didn't check the study, did they do the survey 500 m or 1000 m away as well and substracted those baseline measurements from all the other survey results?
 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
void said:
Didn't check the study, did they do the survey 500 m or 1000 m away as well and substracted those baseline measurements from all the other survey results?
I'm not sure if they did, it's been a while since I read the study... I don't think it's a relevant question. Whether they did or not, either way the result is clear: cell towers cause health effects, and the closer you are to a tower, the more of these health effects will present.

Here's a link to the study if you want to dig in deeper:
https://www.researchgate.net/public...ase_stations_I_Influences_of_distance_and_sex

TheMost said:
Eddie, that wasn't me you were replying to, that was Sooth.
My apologies, yes. The multi quote feature can get a bit confusing.

Anyway, the reason I laid out my post the way I did (including information about 4g, WiFi, etc.) was to show that all EMFs are harmful to your health and to the immune system in particular, and so it's very clear that 5g, at the very least, makes corona worse than it would be with a healthy immune system. Again - the main hot spots, NYC, Northern Italy, Wuhan, all have 5g rolled out.

What about Iran... it could be they have 5g tech already, that they secretly got it form China, it could also be that Mossad released an actual bioweapon in Iran, who knows.

If you want only the information about 5g in particular and the connection to corona:

This link discusses the health risks of 5g in detail:
https://www.electricsense.com/5g-radiation-dangers/

This link discusses the possible connection between 5g and corona virus in detail (beyond just effects on the immune system):
https://www.electricsense.com/5g-coronavirus/

That last article is from 6 weeks ago so some details of the situation have since developed and changed, but much of it still applies.
 
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