90% of office workers have NO LIFE...
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kosko said:
You'll have your work cut out for you. H1B1 visas are costly and high in demand.
Unless you want to cut your teeth in marketing, advertising, finance or corporate law, I would advise you to stay away. But the job market for the aforementioned positions is without question world class.
If you're in Finance, then Scotia Capital is making a push into the market. RBC as well. They employ mostly Canadians.
Brookfield Properties is becoming the premier Office REIT in America. They're headquartered at WFC. I'm very impressed by this organization: it's professional, competent, and has a great track record.
But my advice in another post still stands: if you're in your 20s and just starting out, Hong Kong is leaps and bounds better than NYC. If you move there, I expect you to buy me a drink in a few years thanking me.
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-2122-post-356273.html#pid356273
I agree, stay in Canada. I actually overheard a couple employees saying they are applying for jobs in Toronto...
If you are just starting off in the finance I honestly think the ONLY way to get employed is to work with a temp agency like Kelly or Manpower, etc. Thats's how I originally got hired out of grad school. I was making $19 an hour to temp, and I started drinking with my Irish Director and when something opened up he got me in.
I'd love to work front office, but its easier said than done. I'm 0 for 3 on interviews in the last 2 years, a lot of people looking for jobs.
That's why its important to diversify. I was looking at real estate in Seaside Heights with my cousin before this hurricane, and of course I just published my first book.
I think finance is going to keep shrinking in the next 20 years and become more and more automated...
If you are just starting off in the finance I honestly think the ONLY way to get employed is to work with a temp agency like Kelly or Manpower, etc. Thats's how I originally got hired out of grad school. I was making $19 an hour to temp, and I started drinking with my Irish Director and when something opened up he got me in.
I'd love to work front office, but its easier said than done. I'm 0 for 3 on interviews in the last 2 years, a lot of people looking for jobs.
That's why its important to diversify. I was looking at real estate in Seaside Heights with my cousin before this hurricane, and of course I just published my first book.
I think finance is going to keep shrinking in the next 20 years and become more and more automated...
TheCaptainPower said:
Ummm, no. You could get a good degree, or you could develop skills, or you could network. Actually, you did a bit of networking with your temp boss to get your current position. But you can do so much more. Your career passion isn't close to your fitness passion.
Serious, only three interviews in two years? You should be going to school part-time, getting CFA certification, attending industry meetings, volunteering for extra work projects so you can network. Instead you chose to write a fitness book that is probably not particularly different from existing books.
@Divorco I agree with you 110% that my fitness passion is stronger than my career passion, but I don't want you to think that I have been sitting on my ass...
I got my MBA a couple years ago going part time after work. I also took a couple certifications and passed. But I definately lost the passion, that's why I'm not pushing as much for the CFA and industry meetings, etc. I'm SLOWLY working on leaving the industry eventually.
I only interviewed 3x because it has to be a really good reason for me to leave. I'm a year away from vesting on some pension and 401k stuff, so not putting myself out there as much. Also if they lay me off I get a decent severence check.
I'm not dumb, I turned 33 last month and I saved close to $200K working in an office, but eventually I'd like to do something different and something I have a passion in.
And BTW, in 7 years I've never seen anyone hired straight from College.....We wouldn't even interview them
I got my MBA a couple years ago going part time after work. I also took a couple certifications and passed. But I definately lost the passion, that's why I'm not pushing as much for the CFA and industry meetings, etc. I'm SLOWLY working on leaving the industry eventually.
I only interviewed 3x because it has to be a really good reason for me to leave. I'm a year away from vesting on some pension and 401k stuff, so not putting myself out there as much. Also if they lay me off I get a decent severence check.
I'm not dumb, I turned 33 last month and I saved close to $200K working in an office, but eventually I'd like to do something different and something I have a passion in.
And BTW, in 7 years I've never seen anyone hired straight from College.....We wouldn't even interview them
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The evil Back Office machine is still slowly draining people`s life away
I HAD to contribute to this thread.
As a New Yorker, i constantly see the damage corporate culture is doing to our everyday lives (shameless plug of my own blog here).
However, there is another thing im starting to notice - if you don't subscribe to that life, people go out of their way to shame you as if you're doing something wrong.
I'm 28, i live with a roomate, I love video games, picking up girls in various ways, sometimes coding when the urge strikes me, and I work a job that pays me enough to live that lifestyle - and my day consists of mostly strolling in the office around 10:30, maybe doing about 20 minutes worth of real work a day, browsing the internet the whole time, or doing my own thing (coding, reading, taking 2 hour lunches).
Sometimes I watch pro wrestling, sometimes I attend hipster parties, sometimes I spend hours getting better at Tekken and Street Fighter, sometimes I get drunk at art shows, sometimes I spend a few hours in the Russian bath house on 10th st.
I am genuinely happy. And that seems to throw off a lot of people. People simply can't accept that I am happy with my lifestyle. They tell me that I am wasting my potential, and yet they turn around and work their constant 10-12 hour days and go home to their sub par girlfriends and wives, with no hobbies to speak of, while I, just minutes earlier, scheduled a date for next Saturday with a 6'2 skinny 19 year old Russian chick... no exaggeration. Yet I'm the bad guy
People thing being miserable is the standard, and I am starting to see hate for the mere fact that I am not miserable. I sometimes draw nude models on weekends (PLUG), while my roomate has been telling me for about a year now how he wants to try a fencing class. And fencing is cool as shit, why wouldn't you want to do that at least once? He has yet to fence, he just works, drinks, and takes care of his unattractive girlfriend (who he is now moving in with).
And yet I'm the bad guy thats wasting my potential.
PS: @TheCaptainPower - cool username, for a good part of my childhood I wanted to be Hawk, but since I was a chubby kid I got to be Tank a lot
As a New Yorker, i constantly see the damage corporate culture is doing to our everyday lives (shameless plug of my own blog here).
However, there is another thing im starting to notice - if you don't subscribe to that life, people go out of their way to shame you as if you're doing something wrong.
I'm 28, i live with a roomate, I love video games, picking up girls in various ways, sometimes coding when the urge strikes me, and I work a job that pays me enough to live that lifestyle - and my day consists of mostly strolling in the office around 10:30, maybe doing about 20 minutes worth of real work a day, browsing the internet the whole time, or doing my own thing (coding, reading, taking 2 hour lunches).
Sometimes I watch pro wrestling, sometimes I attend hipster parties, sometimes I spend hours getting better at Tekken and Street Fighter, sometimes I get drunk at art shows, sometimes I spend a few hours in the Russian bath house on 10th st.
I am genuinely happy. And that seems to throw off a lot of people. People simply can't accept that I am happy with my lifestyle. They tell me that I am wasting my potential, and yet they turn around and work their constant 10-12 hour days and go home to their sub par girlfriends and wives, with no hobbies to speak of, while I, just minutes earlier, scheduled a date for next Saturday with a 6'2 skinny 19 year old Russian chick... no exaggeration. Yet I'm the bad guy
People thing being miserable is the standard, and I am starting to see hate for the mere fact that I am not miserable. I sometimes draw nude models on weekends (PLUG), while my roomate has been telling me for about a year now how he wants to try a fencing class. And fencing is cool as shit, why wouldn't you want to do that at least once? He has yet to fence, he just works, drinks, and takes care of his unattractive girlfriend (who he is now moving in with).
And yet I'm the bad guy thats wasting my potential.
PS: @TheCaptainPower - cool username, for a good part of my childhood I wanted to be Hawk, but since I was a chubby kid I got to be Tank a lot
Help with the downpayment! Cripes, no wonder real estate prices where I live (DC) are still high. I'm lucky: my parents are broke as shit! Renters, no home equity, can never afford to gift me 200k to make a downpayment on a million dollar house. Looks like I have good reason to MGTOW.
Man I can relate so much to this thread. I been in office work for a few years. The people are insane. During summer, only 10% of the entire building take walks. They sit on their fat ass 7 hours a day and they don't even want to take some fresh air during lunch.
The men there are fucking hard to watch. They're wife-wipped to the point of having no testicles left. They openly admit that their wives make the decisions in the couple. One boss there had an "old wise man to young man" kind of talk with me once. He was explaining to me that in order to get sex from his wife, he had to cook dinner, and clean, otherwise, he doesn't get any. He was talking to me like he was giving me advice.
The other boss, mr beta, married his first girl friend from high school. Yeah... she was getting fucked by another dude, while mr beta was giving her gifts and patiently waiting for her to love him. One day the other guy dumped her and she went with mr. beta. So he married the first girl he ever touched and had kids with her. He told me that story himself... without shame.
Some women just got out of high school with their diploma and think they<re all that. Once one of them looked insulted because I was'nt giving a shit about her diploma. Bitch had 2 chins and wondered why.
I could go on... some stories that would make Chateau Heartiste cringe. But there are some good people there and I try to talk to them instead.
The men there are fucking hard to watch. They're wife-wipped to the point of having no testicles left. They openly admit that their wives make the decisions in the couple. One boss there had an "old wise man to young man" kind of talk with me once. He was explaining to me that in order to get sex from his wife, he had to cook dinner, and clean, otherwise, he doesn't get any. He was talking to me like he was giving me advice.
The other boss, mr beta, married his first girl friend from high school. Yeah... she was getting fucked by another dude, while mr beta was giving her gifts and patiently waiting for her to love him. One day the other guy dumped her and she went with mr. beta. So he married the first girl he ever touched and had kids with her. He told me that story himself... without shame.
Some women just got out of high school with their diploma and think they<re all that. Once one of them looked insulted because I was'nt giving a shit about her diploma. Bitch had 2 chins and wondered why.
I could go on... some stories that would make Chateau Heartiste cringe. But there are some good people there and I try to talk to them instead.
several years ago i worked in an office. one night i left work to go to my car in the parking garage. as i was walking to my car i saw one of my bosses (mid 40s, married w/ 2 kids) just sitting in his car staring ahead. i stopped walking and watched him. it felt like an hour but for the next few minutes all he did was sit and stare while sitting in his car. i don't know what was going on in his life, as far as i could tell nothing serious as i would have heard, but just watching him do that was a wake up call for what office life does to a man. i wondered what was going through his head as he sat and stared while sitting in his car? thoughts of a shitty homelife? the futility of his existence? how miserable his life had become?
the funny thing was this boss didn´t give off a depressed vibe at work, it took me seeing him in a honest moment to get a glimpse into the sadness of his existence. yea, im glad i no longer work in an office..
the funny thing was this boss didn´t give off a depressed vibe at work, it took me seeing him in a honest moment to get a glimpse into the sadness of his existence. yea, im glad i no longer work in an office..
The worst is you get these guys who move out to the suburbs and they take the fukin 5:30am train into work every day, and they get there around 7:45am...
Then they go "hey, what time did you get in?" "I got in at 7:45, ha ha ha"
Then the month before bonus time the managers get into a competition who can stay at the office the longest and surf the internet...
Best part is when these married guys from the suburbs get laid off they commit suicide or go crazy because they cant afford their long island $15k a year real estate taxes...
My rule of thumb is this, take a look at your managers and decide if you want to become them...If the answer is a definite "NO" then it is not a life long career for you.
Then they go "hey, what time did you get in?" "I got in at 7:45, ha ha ha"
Then the month before bonus time the managers get into a competition who can stay at the office the longest and surf the internet...
Best part is when these married guys from the suburbs get laid off they commit suicide or go crazy because they cant afford their long island $15k a year real estate taxes...
My rule of thumb is this, take a look at your managers and decide if you want to become them...If the answer is a definite "NO" then it is not a life long career for you.
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SnakeEyes said:
It takes ten minutes to walk from the front of my office to the beach, and I think I'm the only person in the entire company who goes to the beach almost every day on my lunch hour. The rest of them would rather sit inside and talk about retarded TV shows all day.
I'm lucky that I have a pretty easy job and it pays me well enough to do all the things that I enjoy, but constantly being around people who you don't like and who have no motivation is really draining after awhile. You can get really limited by the people you keep around you and the environment you live in if you're not careful.
As for the original point, considering how much my coworkers talk about lame TV shows and movies that I've never even heard of, I know they have pretty much no life aside from television. After the first few months I realized hanging out with them outside of work is a total waste of time.
TheCaptainPower said:
This is one of the reasons I quit university. Looking at the people taking my lectures and classes, who'd done these courses, admitted they hadn't got into the industry and ended up teaching it on a really shitty wage instead, I asked myself "why I am I here?"
Unfortunately for most, they lack that foresight.
MattC the problem is you need a capital to invest and make more money. In reality, a university degree is usually advantageous in that process assuming not overly debt filled. A high school degree by contrast is quite likely to lead to terrible job prospects and poor pay which never allows you to invest and get ahead. Guys who struggle it out in the office and save a few hundred g's are then in a position to invest and make more money and get out of that lifestyle. I'm not sure quitting university is a very good response to the criticisms in this thread.
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@Starcraft What neighborhoods are you looking in? I was looking at seaside heights with my cousin since NJ has been foreclosure city, but only found a couple properties remotely interesting....
I've been working since 21, so pretty much I saved 10-15K per year with interest for 12 years in a row. About half is cash, half in 401K.
I've been working since 21, so pretty much I saved 10-15K per year with interest for 12 years in a row. About half is cash, half in 401K.
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Honestly, outside of one dude who thinks a bit like me and my boss who lets me slide on BS work and plays video games on his ipad during meetings, most of the people there are just boring as fuck and are massive fucking pussies. I asked one person how he was doing and all he could talk about was how he's glad he's not fired yet.
The main thing I hate about office life is that 80%-90% of the "work" done is meaningless. You see people walk around fast heading nowhere just to seem busy; people always scheduling shitty meetings that don't do anything; people having useless conversations about shit that doesn't matter. If I'm there to work, I just want to finish up my shit and leave. Thing is if you cut out the BS, there really isn't that much work.
That and working from home means I can take a break without having to justify it and I can go down to Camden market to eat lunch at one of the best places for visiting London. I can then pick up a coffee, hit on a few girls that are there who are probably students or lazy bitches since its during the work day, and then head back to my flat to bang out some more work and finish work early. I just had a really good performance review last week despite doing so little work (or maybe because of it?).
The main thing I hate about office life is that 80%-90% of the "work" done is meaningless. You see people walk around fast heading nowhere just to seem busy; people always scheduling shitty meetings that don't do anything; people having useless conversations about shit that doesn't matter. If I'm there to work, I just want to finish up my shit and leave. Thing is if you cut out the BS, there really isn't that much work.
That and working from home means I can take a break without having to justify it and I can go down to Camden market to eat lunch at one of the best places for visiting London. I can then pick up a coffee, hit on a few girls that are there who are probably students or lazy bitches since its during the work day, and then head back to my flat to bang out some more work and finish work early. I just had a really good performance review last week despite doing so little work (or maybe because of it?).
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