A $29,999 Bottle of Scotch
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TheWastelander
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I don't really drink scotch. I prefer tequila and occasionally vodka.
To each his own, I say.
To each his own, I say.
JoyStick said:
I only drink it neat. Room temperature at that. Too hot or cold and I save it for later. After I spend probably 5-10 mins getting that bouquet and swishing/gargling like a snob to get that smokey flavor in my tonsils.
To me the ice adds contaminated water that does not belong in the original scotch and cuts the flavor too much for me. If you drink the scotch too fast, the ice won't cool it at all. Do you make your ice in a clean maker that is not made out of tap water? Some of the ice lovers go to serious lengths to make sure their ice is very clean and pure, but most do not give a shit about that. Some like those fat custom ice rocks for looking cool with their cigars. That's a poser on a high class level right there. Not hating, just sayin...
teh_skeeze
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I love me some Johnnie Walker Black Label. I'd like to get into the single malts, but wouldn't know where to begin. The reason I like Black Label is 1) It's got a much bolder flavor than bourbon or Irish and 2) It's smooth. I would be looking for something under $100. Anyone have some suggestions?
$30k on booze? No. I'd buy a glass of it somewhere most likely though as that would be enough so see what it was like....though I expect it won't taste much different than 18 year.
I think I've also written somewhere else that I'm always looking for the intersection of price and taste...ie what's the cheapest whiskey or bourbon I can buy that still tastes acceptable. I find that to be more of a challenge than just the 'best tasting ever' as I would assume thats mainly just a function of dollars.
I think I've also written somewhere else that I'm always looking for the intersection of price and taste...ie what's the cheapest whiskey or bourbon I can buy that still tastes acceptable. I find that to be more of a challenge than just the 'best tasting ever' as I would assume thats mainly just a function of dollars.
Orion said:
Key word there. Whiskey. Did they say scotch whiskey? Or just plain ol whiskey? If they are talking about just whiskey in general, then yeah that is true for the most part. If they were talking about scotch, then no. The age matters the most. The barrel it was stored in even matters alot. If that barrel was fire-charred, sherry wood, or some other kind of wood, or not even matters. Single malt or blended matters alot too in some cases.
Canadian whiskeys, Jack Daniels, and all that other sour mash whiskey is not made with bog peat from Scotland. The water there makes a big difference. There is a big law in the UK that regulates what is real scotch and what is not. Maybe one of the UK RVF fellas when they wake up can drop their better knowledge on this stuff, but it's kinda of a big fucking deal over there for a good reason.
iop890 said:
Macallan 15. Actually going to a tasting this week. I've gone before, they do the 10, 12, 15, 17 and 18 and describe the process. I'm not into the peaty scotch's, I hear it just takes time to get used to those. They opened a new Whiskey/Scotch bar near me and I'm going through the menu, starting with the Japanese menu first.
Last Macallan event they had like a $100k or $200k bottle there for display.
TheWastelander said:
Every man should at least get a basic rundown style education or indoctrination on scotch and wine. You never know when you will need that knowledge to avoid losing face around hi-so people as a young man.
Even silly things like getting a dark bold Cab wine while eating a lightly seasoned white fish dinner can embarrass you without you even realizing it. If you need to make a decent impression on potential business partners, you cannot embarrass people at the table. Just getting a white wine with every fish is sill too. Only those cheap restaurants training their waiters to say silly stuff like this say junk like that. There are times when even a Pinot Grigio would pair well with a certain kind of steak that is prepared or cooked a certain way.
You do not need to know everything, just the basics is good enough.
To learn scotch read up on wikipedia or hang out with a few folks that know it within your circles. Then go to a nice bar one day with 100 bucks and get a shot of each year they have in the set.
You can also take a wine tasting class, which is best to do at the beginning because you will have a strong foundation to learn off of, by teaching yourself. Many wine bars give these. Costs anywhere from 20 dollars to 100. Depends upon what they are tasting and the class level. It's great for dates, especially on the cheap when you want to impress a stuck up chick.
teh_skeeze said:
Good introductory single malts are Glenlivet 12, Glenmorangie 10, Glenfiddich 12, Oban, Balvenie 12, or if you want to try one peatier, Laphroaig.
All are well under $100, at least where I am, but I would suggest buying different scotches by the glass in bars. It costs more but you'll educate yourself much faster.
The forum does have a whiskey thread if anyone is interested http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-20568.html?highlight=whiskey
Drazen said:
Single malts are strong (harsher) when they are younger. Not always, but that's the trend. Hence why even guys who are not all that into the heavy peat flavor still like the nice older ones, like that Macallan 15 or 18. That 18 is very nice too for the price. They all tend to get alot smoother with the age.
TravelerKai said:
Kai, what are your thoughts on bourbon? I remember going down to the Woodford Reserve in Lexington, KY and sipping on some of that good stuff :biggrin:
Cunnilinguist said:
Hmm Bourbons are usually something I drink when I am tired of other American types (rye) or Canadian whisky and do not have enough money for the scotch I want. Real Bourbon is made from corn, someone correct me if I am wrong. I use it for cooking and baking pies sometimes like any good Louisianian would. I do not get too serious about it, I just drink it to get right on Friday evenings and some Saturday nights.
I do not know why but Wild Turkey and Evan Williams' bourbons give me some funny hangover headaches as if I drank a clear liquor like vodka. Other than that, nothing else seems to give me headaches or hangovers. I used to drink lots of these kinds of whisky back when I thought Southern Comfort was bourbon (it's not) and before I ever had a scotch. I use to cut them with Coke, etc.
You know what, I keep hearing from guys that are members of these Jim Beam and Jack Daniels clubs and they go to the distilleries and get special access to reserves and they say the stuff is incredible. I would like to do something like this, but I know that some of these club's have different levels and there are waiting lists as well. Maybe some of you guys might get into that. I can imagine the business networking must be pretty decent in those circles.
TravelerKai said:
Yes, that's right, there needs to be at least 51% maize/corn for it to be legally called bourbon.
I'm partial to a good Old Fashioned, it's my go-to whenever I'm on a night out in the city.
With aged whiskies, more time in the barrel doesn't necessarily mean better, just different, because everyone's tastes and preferences are going to vary after all. The kind of barrels they're finished in will play a part as well - if they were finished in sherry casks, you'll get those nuttier characters, port casks will impart some sweetness, etc.
Interesting thing is happening in the other direction where wine is being "finished" in old whiskey barrels. Haven't tried any of that stuff yet, but would be interesting.
I'm more of a wine specialist, so my whiskey know-how is limited, but I have a few good friends I like to have a good time with over tumblers and poker.
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