a culture where woman are the dominant gender and is the leader of their family

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Andy_B

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P Dog said:
This is *kind of* relevant: Equality in Barbarism

Indeed, this seems to indicate that women’s relative power is stronger in more primitive, anarchic and despotic environments, whether they are our contemporary urban ghettoes or early medieval barbarian kingdoms. Many other examples, such as 12th century Mongolia and early colonial era Iroquois tribes point to this phenomenon. In fact, as far as I know, in barbaric, warlike societies, as opposed to civilized or hunter gatherer societies, women have the most power and freedom of all. In example after example, one can see the relative status of women decline as societies become more orderly, literate and settled. Contrast Homeric Greece to Athenian civilization. Pre-imperial to Confucian China. Jahiliyyah to the Caliphate — the list goes on.

... And isn't Western civilization currently in the process of becoming less civilized?

Just a thought.
 

Deluge

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Andy_B said:
P Dog said:
This is *kind of* relevant: Equality in Barbarism

Indeed, this seems to indicate that women’s relative power is stronger in more primitive, anarchic and despotic environments, whether they are our contemporary urban ghettoes or early medieval barbarian kingdoms. Many other examples, such as 12th century Mongolia and early colonial era Iroquois tribes point to this phenomenon. In fact, as far as I know, in barbaric, warlike societies, as opposed to civilized or hunter gatherer societies, women have the most power and freedom of all. In example after example, one can see the relative status of women decline as societies become more orderly, literate and settled. Contrast Homeric Greece to Athenian civilization. Pre-imperial to Confucian China. Jahiliyyah to the Caliphate — the list goes on.

... And isn't Western civilization currently in the process of becoming less civilized?

Just a thought.

The author agrees with you.

The question, then, is whether feminists, when presented with the opportunity, would deliberately create the conditions of barbarism. That feminists romanticize a golden past of female empowerment, even going so far as to suggest that ape society is superior to our own, seems to suggest that they will. Perhaps, then, it isn’t so much that feminists want to change civilization, but rather – consciously or not – they aim to dismantle it.

If so, that may be exactly where we’re headed.

Athlone said it first that we're devolving back to our pre-Agricultural Revolution society.
 

kdolo

 
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Africa ....weakly gynocentric ?????

I guess you don't know many African men and their families do you ..........???
 

Samseau

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kdolo said:
Africa ....weakly gynocentric ?????

I guess you don't know many African men and their families do you ..........???

You misunderstand - it's not that patriarchy is sufficient for civilization, but necessary.


So while you can have patriarchy without civilization, you cannot have civilization without patriarchy.
 
Samseau said:
These people didn't advance in a single thing for thousands of years. Men are the creators of all inventions and ideas, but they need sexual motivation to do it.

Perfectly said. I couldn't have phrased it better if I tried.
 
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