A dad is the tenth most popular Christmas wish of children

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Man up, you losers! How dare you waste your time posting inanity on this forum?

p.s.

It takes two to tango. Most single mothers didn't get conceived from a sperm bank. Most of them have dads that didn't stick around to raise their kids. There's plenty of blame to spread around for fatherless homes. The point of aid to women with children isn't to reward women, it's to protect kids who had no choice in being brought into the world under such messy circumstances. I don't like the moral hazard of rewarding irresponsibility any more than you do, but the alternative might mean more teens living in poverty and turning to crime, and breaking into my home. Sometimes you have to pick the lessor of two evils.

I think this is the explanation you're looking for:

Take for example the issue of out of wedlock births. Gilligans are especially susceptible to what I call the it takes two fallacy. In the proper context it isn’t a fallacy at all. If an individual woman has a child out of wedlock, it is a fact that there is somewhere a man who is also responsible for the problem. So far, no problem. But the Gilligans want to use this to form social policy. They mistakenly apply at the macro level what is only true at the micro level. They assume this means if you have 100 baby mamas, that there must also be an equal number of baby daddies. They took this logical error and combined it with their natural sympathy for sluts, and decided to create a social order where only men are punished for out of wedlock births. What they didn’t understand is that it only takes a small number of irresponsible men to sire all the bastards the baby mamas could ever want. No matter how draconian our child support laws become, there will always be a small number of irresponsible men who are willing to play their part.

http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/1...d-traditional-conservatives-are-our-gilligan/

That said, yes, I also agree it would be cruel and probably raise crime rates if we did not give them support. But I'm afraid that, if we do not, not only is it going to happen anyway, it's going to be much worse when it does.

I think a fine start would be just to have a national debate about the slut problem. Of course, this is not gonna happen, and I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Veloce]

Yeah, this isn't a free pass on not taking accountability as men, but I can say that I've fucked/dated several girls that were INCREDIBLY cavalier and open about their attitude and downright optimism about raising a child alone. I've listened gravely about how, "I'm gonna be a total milf. I'm gonna be a hot 30-something and it's just gonna be me and my kid, hanging out and having fun."

 

[Parlay44]

Yeah, this isn't a free pass on not taking accountability as men, but I can say that I've fucked/dated several girls that were INCREDIBLY cavalier and open about their attitude and downright optimism about raising a child alone. I've listened gravely about how, "I'm gonna be a total milf. I'm gonna be a hot 30-something and it's just gonna be me and my kid, hanging out and having fun."

There's just no shame in it anymore. No sense of community. Could you imagine if they tried to pull that shit in the 50's? Her father would have smacked the living shit out of her. We need to raise the bar again fellas.

 

[Jaydublin]

Yeah, this isn't a free pass on not taking accountability as men, but I can say that I've fucked/dated several girls that were INCREDIBLY cavalier and open about their attitude and downright optimism about raising a child alone. I've listened gravely about how, "I'm gonna be a total milf. I'm gonna be a hot 30-something and it's just gonna be me and my kid, hanging out and having fun."

I've heard that same shit so many times, all the way back to my gf in high school. They also always have such big plans for their income tax money.

 

[Roosh]

Gotta disagree with speakeasy here. It's not like Jennifer is banging the electrical engineer who professes his love for her through thick and thin and then suddenly disappears in an accidental pregnancy. While I'm sure it happens once in a while that beta boyfriends ditch out, more commonly these girls are getting impregnated by guys they know BEFOREHAND will not be there when the kid pops out. And then government money (i.e. our taxes) have to support her bad decision while she uploads baby pictures to Facebook from her iPhone and still gets a billion likes from thirsty dudes.

Feminists are trying to construct a society where it's impossible for a woman to make a bad decision no matter what she does. Society will applaud her and the government will have the money ready.

 

[Screwston]

Well, I think it used to be that single moms would at least try to get a boyfriend to play step dad and have some kind of father figure around. Now, every young single mom is "independent" and doesn't want to be tied down. She would rather get dicked down by different guys than look for thatt.

 

[tenderman100]

Gotta disagree with speakeasy here. It's not like Jennifer is banging the electrical engineer who professes his love for her through thick and thin and then suddenly disappears in an accidental pregnancy. While I'm sure it happens once in a while that beta boyfriends ditch out, more commonly these girls are getting impregnated by guys they know BEFOREHAND will not be there when the kid pops out. And then government money (i.e. our taxes) have to support her bad decision while she uploads baby pictures to Facebook from her iPhone and still gets a billion likes from thirsty dudes.

Feminists are trying to construct a society where it's impossible for a woman to make a bad decision no matter what she does. Society will applaud her and the government will have the money ready.

I had a sneaking suspicion you were a smart guy.

Now, that doesn't mean I am trying to butter you up to get my warning level reduced more quickly.

No, no...not at all. Not at all.

 

[KorbenDallas]

The chickens will come home to roost. In the past why where single mother households so poverty stricken? Because the mom has to take care of a kid (not producing anything of value) and provide a service to society, but without the skills of a man. So, a lower income than a man AND raising a dependent.
With more and more households SINGLE MOM households their will be a creation of a massive underclass and although the quality of people's lives will be worse, girls in America will get their sex lives subsidized and encouraged to make poor decisions. A lot of women will wise up when they see the few families they know living much better.

 

[WanderingSoul]

So I spent the past year working with children, and at one of the single mom's houses (5 kids, 3 fathers) I was at, a little 4 year old girl asks, "Mommy, can he be our Daddy?"

You hit that didn't you, you sick bastard?

 

[Parlay44]

Women take about 25% of your pay as child support. Once they get used to living that Welfare Queen lifestyle it's hard to quit. They start talking with other Welfare Queens and get in deeper. Having a second kid from the same guy nets her a small marginal gain. But getting knocked up by a different guy nets her a second 25%. Now life is magically better. Next thing you know she's the community baby factory and living better than you are.

 

[Cincinnatus]

Having a second kid from the same guy nets her a small marginal gain. But getting knocked up by a different guy nets her a second 25%.

Never thought about that.

I'm sure money received via child support isn't taxed either.

So with a net income of zero such a woman would probably be entitled to housing and food assistance, possibly a welfare check too.

 

[Samseau]

Having a second kid from the same guy nets her a small marginal gain. But getting knocked up by a different guy nets her a second 25%.

Never thought about that.

I'm sure money received via child support isn't taxed either.

So with a net income of zero such a woman would probably be entitled to housing and food assistance, possibly a welfare check too.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-01/why-americans-have-lost-drive-earn-more

A woman with one child earns $28,327 a year in benefits. Just subtract $29,000 from $57,327.

Makes you wonder how much women regret being knocked up by deadbeat dads?

 

[Mercenary]

Now that 4 years have passed since this thread was created I wonder if it's still number 10 on children's christmas wish lists or if it's actually gone higher than that.

 

[Glaucon]

Its probably number 5 now...