A fat person has you pinned down on the ground- how do you escape?
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Statsi said:
You're an ESL student, right?
I never said it isn't common for people to get hurt in street fights. I said it isn't common for them to get their faces eaten. You're blatantly twisting my words in every one of your rebuttals.
And again, I clearly never said to just lie on the ground with the dude on top of you, please quote where I said that. This whole thread is about escaping while you are pinned. That obviously does not mean to lie there.
You're giving terribly ignorant advice that will get people hurt if they follow it. We both know you are arguing just to argue, and have no experience with what you are talking about.
Of course if a guy is bigger than you and knows jiujitsu or wrestling sorry but youre not getting out, youre staying there until he decides hes had enough.Statsi said:
There is no hail mary punch/gouging/biting that can save you against a more skilled opponent.
Stating the obvious? Maybe dont go around looking for trouble if you cant deal with the consequences?
The OP was what can you do (assuming an untrained guy with an obvious weight disadvantage) when someone holds him in the ground in the mount position. The only thing to do in that position is to do the bridge to try to throw him off balance long enough to get your legs free and get up. Thats it.
Why would anyone with no training want to stay in the ground and grapple a bigger opponent?
soup said:
Not bad Soup, but you obviously never trained in the butter attack.
My go to move is to carry some chicken wings in my pockets. I will throw them away from me and when he goes for the feeding frenzy I will slip away.
Now that I type this, I am starting to think the chicken wings is why the fat people are trying to smother me. It's like they can smell it miles away. Maybe it's time to find a new go to move.
My mistake, when you said it wasn't common I thought you meant serious injury. I don't want to argue about a hypothetical, we both have said it's best not to allow it to happen in the first place. I think if it does happen it's a precurser to serious damage and you should try anything, regardless of how little chance of success, to escape. You have said that doing so may escalate the situation.
Maybe if I had your experience on the mat I would agree with you, who knows. Maybe if you had experienced more knife attacks you would agree with me, who knows.
Maybe if I had your experience on the mat I would agree with you, who knows. Maybe if you had experienced more knife attacks you would agree with me, who knows.
The other technique is to always carry a roll of Velcro. If a fat gets you down you can put Velcro on it and Velcro it's limbs to it's body.
If you do it right, the arms will be vrlcored to it's back and legs .. It will be a ball of velcroed fat that you can easily roll off of you and into a mud puddle.
You can also stick hot peppers in it's folds.
If you do it right, the arms will be vrlcored to it's back and legs .. It will be a ball of velcroed fat that you can easily roll off of you and into a mud puddle.
You can also stick hot peppers in it's folds.
soup said:
Then smother him in honey. Get back a safe distance. Wait for bears. Pull out the popcorn and enjoy the show...
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...stop looking at me like that.
Wald
That Royce Gracie video is awesome.
My older brother was a good wrestler and used to pin me to the ground all the time growing up.
Here are the best techniques I learned to get him off of me..
1) Take a bite out of his stomach. I don't mean literally take a bite of flesh off of his stomach but I came close a few times. He bounced up like a fish out of water.
2) What Beyond Borders said..
That's all I got.
My older brother was a good wrestler and used to pin me to the ground all the time growing up.
Here are the best techniques I learned to get him off of me..
1) Take a bite out of his stomach. I don't mean literally take a bite of flesh off of his stomach but I came close a few times. He bounced up like a fish out of water.
2) What Beyond Borders said..
Beyond Borders said:
That's all I got.
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Listen to Rio or one of us who's actually trained. Anyone who hasn't been in the situation shouldn't comment.
The best answer, don't get there in the first place. If you did you already made a huge mistake.
If you do end up mounted as shown above, the two main escapes are an upa(bridge and roll) and the elbow escape. You can also combine these moves.
Against an untrained opponent you should be able to pull these off 100% of the time even if they have established position. Against someone who is trained it's more difficult.
Without practicing regularly chances are you'd be screwed.
The best answer, don't get there in the first place. If you did you already made a huge mistake.
If you do end up mounted as shown above, the two main escapes are an upa(bridge and roll) and the elbow escape. You can also combine these moves.
Against an untrained opponent you should be able to pull these off 100% of the time even if they have established position. Against someone who is trained it's more difficult.
Without practicing regularly chances are you'd be screwed.
Tytalus said:
You buck him off. But not straight up. To the side. Pretend that a quarter is sitting on on of your hips and that your object is to fling it over the shoulder on the opposite side of your body. You buck in that direction.
I have routinely thrown 300 pound guys off me with this method. This is not the best video, but it provides the general idea. Done the proper way you end up on top of him, but between his legs where he cannot buck you off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoJzRM0DgW8
Tail Gunner said:
Whoah....hey now...
What exactly are you doing with 300 pound guys routinely on top of you? :huh:
Beyond Borders said:
The largest dude in my Krav Maga class. A few others guys were over 250 pounds. You would be surprised at how many big guys get jacked and want to learn how to defend themselves. :tongue:
I vividly remember bucking the big guy off me once. The lead instructor happened to be walking by and gave me a big thumbs up.
The legs are the strongest part of the body. And although people usually don't think of it this way, the ass and hips are simply the uppermost extension of the legs. So, you have a very powerful weapon available to buck someone off (if the technique is done properly).
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