A feminist summons a shitstorm via Twitter; a dude gets fired over nothing

[Private Man]

Personality disorder and/or mentally ill.

 

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

Personality disorder and/or mentally ill.

Feminism IS a personality disorder.

 

[BLarsen]

Personality disorder and/or mentally ill.

Narcissistic personality disorder

Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition in which people have an excessive sense of self-importance (Joan of Arc? Future of programming on the line?), an extreme preoccupation with themselves, and lack of empathy for others.

 

[augen sehen]

Her hamster in action:



Sounds like she's still in SF. We have RVF agents there for sure. RVF powers activate!

This video is nuts. 02:30... "I was sitting at this cafe, and there was this couple sitting next to me, and the guy was talking about himself, ..." Does she fucking do anything other than strain to overhear private conversations between people she doesn't know, just so she can tweet about them? Like, is that really her full time job?

 

[kolovrat]

The sad (but hilarious) thing is that the dude who got fired actually apologized:

Hi, I'm the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I'd like to say I'm sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. She had every right to report me to staff, and I defend her position. However, there is another side to this story. While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes were made about forking. My friends and I had decided forking someone's repo is a new form of flattery (the highest form being implementation) and we were excited about one of the presenters projects; a friend said "I would fork that guys repo" The sexual context was applied by Adria, and not us.
My second comment is this, Adria has an audience and is a successful person of the media. Just check out her web page linked in her twitter account, her hard work and social activism speaks for itself. With that great power and reach comes responsibility. As a result of the picture she took I was let go from my job today. Which sucks because I have 3 kids and I really liked that job.
She gave me no warning, she smiled while she snapped the pic and sealed my fate. Let this serve as a message to everyone, our actions and words, big or small, can have a serious impact.
I will be at pycon 2014, I will joke and socialize with everyone but I will also be mindful of my audience, accidental or otherwise.
Again, I apologize.

 

[Eusebius]

Fucking pathetic apology from him. His livelihood has been ruined and he comes out with that? I'd be a caged animal maintaining radio silence while seeking legal advice.

 

[Lemmo]

Fucking pathetic apology from him. His livelihood has been ruined and he comes out with that? I'd be a caged animal maintaining radio silence while seeking legal advice.

Yeah, the apology is permeated with the stench of a dying culture. A healthy male would be angry. This guy compliments the bitch, promises to be a good boy and then hopes he'll be seen as a weak little victim by mentioning his kids. He is seeking pity and forgiveness rather than revenge.

 

[YoungGunner]

Fucking pathetic apology from him. His livelihood has been ruined and he comes out with that? I'd be a caged animal maintaining radio silence while seeking legal advice.

Makes it harder for her to play victim though, for what thats worth

 

[Tuthmosis]

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[TheRookie]

And it begins: http://www.mercurynews.com/jobs/ci_22852550/adria-richards-firing-tech-developer-twitter-pycon

"Adria Richards: Lawyers say firing of developer who outed inappropriate comments on Twitter hard to defend in court"

The ambulance chasers are going to smell blood in the water.

No one is going to make "teh evil patriarchal" argument that she got shitcanned because she negatively affected her employer's bottom line.

Edit: cunt lawyer speaks in the article:

Therese Lawless, a San Francisco attorney who represents employees in employment and discrimination cases does not know Richards but said Richards would have a "groundbreaking case" if it went to court because her complaint was made on social media.

"I like it," Lawless said. "She has a case."

"They're basically retaliating against her for speaking out about sexual harassment," Lawless said. "Oftentimes, employers say their excuse is that 'We want this person out of the workforce because they don't fit into the culture, they don't get along with their co-workers.' But she's in a situation where she's speaking about inappropriate behavior."

 

[Hades]

The sad (but hilarious) thing is that the dude who got fired actually apologized:

Hi, I'm the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I'd like to say I'm sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. She had every right to report me to staff, and I defend her position. However, there is another side to this story. While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes were made about forking. My friends and I had decided forking someone's repo is a new form of flattery (the highest form being implementation) and we were excited about one of the presenters projects; a friend said "I would fork that guys repo" The sexual context was applied by Adria, and not us.
My second comment is this, Adria has an audience and is a successful person of the media. Just check out her web page linked in her twitter account, her hard work and social activism speaks for itself. With that great power and reach comes responsibility. As a result of the picture she took I was let go from my job today. Which sucks because I have 3 kids and I really liked that job.
She gave me no warning, she smiled while she snapped the pic and sealed my fate. Let this serve as a message to everyone, our actions and words, big or small, can have a serious impact.
I will be at pycon 2014, I will joke and socialize with everyone but I will also be mindful of my audience, accidental or otherwise.
Again, I apologize.

I can't blame the guy because if he's realized that somebody who overhears his conversations can have power of his job (and essentially power over his income and ability to provide for his kids) it's understandable that he'd put his ego aside in the interests of his family.

 

[Nonpareil]

And it begins: http://www.mercurynews.com/jobs/ci_22852550/adria-richards-firing-tech-developer-twitter-pycon

"Adria Richards: Lawyers say firing of developer who outed inappropriate comments on Twitter hard to defend in court"

The ambulance chasers are going to smell blood in the water.

No one is going to make "teh evil patriarchal" argument that she got shitcanned because she negatively affected her employer's bottom line.

Edit: cunt lawyer speaks in the article:

Therese Lawless, a San Francisco attorney who represents employees in employment and discrimination cases does not know Richards but said Richards would have a "groundbreaking case" if it went to court because her complaint was made on social media.

"I like it," Lawless said. "She has a case."

"They're basically retaliating against her for speaking out about sexual harassment," Lawless said. "Oftentimes, employers say their excuse is that 'We want this person out of the workforce because they don't fit into the culture, they don't get along with their co-workers.' But she's in a situation where she's speaking about inappropriate behavior."

The way I see it is this; if this nasty bitch somehow has a harassment case for tweeting pictures of guys making jokes most guys make when they're 13, against a guy who publicly apologized and has three kids, and somehow she wins, I'm leaving after I return home soon and never coming back, not even for funerals, because it's so shitty and totalitarian...she won't win (too many people can corroborate the story that she's a whiny and uptight cunt), but who do you think gets to foot her bills in the 3 year court battle of it all?

 

[Veloce]

Adria Richards is not a person. She is a hologram reverse engineered by woman-hating reactionaries to perfectly fulfill every antifeminist nightmare. There is just no way that this human being can really exist.

Or if she does, I salute her canniness. She is the hedgehog who knows one thing: how to latch on to PC self-flagellants with computer money and promote herself without actually doing any work or spreading any knowledge. She is a perfect creature of our time.

She doesn't deserve death threats, but, as a Developer Evangelist she ought to know that a twitter death threat is as credible as a craigslist ad for free pussy. The guy didn't deserve to get fired but, who knows. Maybe they just needed an excuse. He mentioned liking his job, which means he sucked at it. If you're leaving enough on the table to be happy at the end of the day you aren't a productive worker. Like a wise man once said, what would it take for them to kick Jordan out of the league versus a guy riding the bench?

Back to her, though-- her whole life was building to this moment. Her reason for being is to get famous by being offended. This is her Ulysses. A success beyond her wildest dreams. I am the most famous offended person in the world, and rivers of fresh offences just keep flowing in. They want to rape me, they want to kill me. She felt like Joan of Arc when she heard the dick joke, she said. Imagine how her mouth watered when they said they really wanted to wheel her to the stake. Death threats! She thinks, in the tone of a thirteen year old girl asking Bieber to the dance and hearing “yes.”

There is nothing but calculation happening behind Adria Richards' eyes. She is not a person. She is what happens when you feed a bunch of slogans from a cultural studies department meeting at a third tier stoner college into a hat and just keep picking them out at random. African Americans Can't be Racist Marginalized Privilege Rape Culture Hegemonic Cisnormative Microaggression. She got this job and then in her heart she was just begging them to fire her. Or better still, begging them to say something racially insensitive, or-- God-- dare she hope to be sexually harassed? Waiting and praying for that one magic slight that would launch her up to the Olympus of self-pitying internet scolds. And then this... this. Fucking Powerball.

Meanwhile, somewhere, a genocide survivor is off to a productive day, not dwelling on it.

otd:

I can't believe I'm the first person to give you the post of the day. Brilliant post.

 

[Veloce]

I'd be willing to bet she only complained because the guy is such an herb.

If it was some ripped alpha behind her somehow I don't think she would have taken the photo or tweeted anything about it.

 

[NY Digital]

I'd be willing to bet she only complained because the guy is such an herb.

If it was some ripped alpha behind her somehow I don't think she would have taken the photo or tweeted anything about it.

This is what feminism is all about. If he was "attractive" (meaning non-creepy), this is probably what would've happened instead...

:hump:

 

[esperar]

She'll win if there's a case. Yes, it's nice that she was fired, but let's be honest here, she has a vagina, and that means feminists and their white knights will steam roller everyone in their way.

 

[bacon]

Adrina Richards embodies the reason many men expatriate from the US

 

[Tuthmosis]

You know what's interesting: for the last several years, I've reflexively covered or obscured my face whenever I see a camera pointed in my direction--even when it's a professional photographer at a high-profile function. I used to think it was paranoid but, if I were that guy, I'd still have a job.

Something to think about fellas.

 

[kolovrat]

I can't blame the guy because if he's realized that somebody who overhears his conversations can have power of his job (and essentially power over his income and ability to provide for his kids) it's understandable that he'd put his ego aside in the interests of his family.

Even without bringing game/alpha-beta considerations into this, apologizing when you're being canned for what are essentially political reasons frankly almost never works out for anyone. This I have gathered just from simple observations of the shitstorms and scandals that regularly break out on the Internet. I really don't know why people still do it. 9 times out of 10 it's not going to make the scandal go away or get you your job back, while at the same time you lose the respect of sympathizing bystanders because of your cringing pussytude.

That said, here's another thought I had (and please don't take it as support for Adria and that whole detestable crew). If a worker is truly valuable to a company, chances are the company - provided it's run on normal capitalist principles - is going to stick by him to the maximum extent feasible. Mr. Yang did not have to fire that herb, if anything in terms of pure publicity he would have been better off keeping him because the court of public opinion was firmly against Adria even on the Internet and Twitter (although granted, he might not have realized that). Still, the alacrity with which he was let go means that another possible explanation is that that programmer wasn't working up to scratch, and his company was already looking forwards to seeing him slip up so as to fire him.

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

It took a while for public opinion to turn against Adria, so the boss might not have seen it. Also, the lamestream media is on her side and he may have sensed how that would play out.

Finally, he probably would have fired any employee, no matter how good, because of his fear of HR-driven bullshit, especially as it pertains to these conferences, which feminists now watch like hawks.

The only way out of this would have been for the guys who were accused to deny deny deny and claim she was lying out of spite (or something). It was her word against theirs, after all.

I can't blame the guy because if he's realized that somebody who overhears his conversations can have power of his job (and essentially power over his income and ability to provide for his kids) it's understandable that he'd put his ego aside in the interests of his family.

Even without bringing game/alpha-beta considerations into this, apologizing when you're being canned for what are essentially political reasons frankly almost never works out for anyone. This I have gathered just from simple observations of the shitstorms and scandals that regularly break out on the Internet. I really don't know why people still do it. 9 times out of 10 it's not going to make the scandal go away or get you your job back, while at the same time you lose the respect of sympathizing bystanders because of your cringing pussytude.

That said, here's another thought I had (and please don't take it as support for Adria and that whole detestable crew). If a worker is truly valuable to a company, chances are the company - provided it's run on normal capitalist principles - is going to stick by him to the maximum extent feasible. Mr. Yang did not have to fire that herb, if anything in terms of pure publicity he would have been better off keeping him because the court of public opinion was firmly against Adria even on the Internet and Twitter (although granted, he might not have realized that). Still, the alacrity with which he was let go means that another possible explanation is that that programmer wasn't working up to scratch, and his company was already looking forwards to seeing him slip up so as to fire him.