Was that meant to be shared? (Many consider a text message to be private). For the response, I don’t understand how it clarifies the previous statement in any way. Unless it is drawing a parallel (re: baptism) to the statement in the previous video that said the traditional Catholics have a real Eucharist? If so should I take it as extending this “reality” regarded for the Traditional Roman Catholic Eucharist to include the baptismal mysteries of the Roman Catholics as well ? It’s hard to tell.
Did he know you would post his response publicly? It's reasonable to assume he did not, so let's not share private communications of anyone here without their explicit consent. Read the subforum guidelines that I just updated today:I went ahead and asked him. Here’s the text:
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This is true. If we wrote off a person after they say one thing we believe to be wrong eventually we would write off everyone but ourselves (often we think we’re 100% correct). One also can’t just write off a whole group (e.g. GOAA, OCA, ROCOR) Wherever you go, there are issues of covidianism, ecumenism, secularism (so many problems) and there is no perfect group people among the militant element of the church because we have not been perfected yet. We do have to pray for each other and ask for mercy on our Church and fellow orthodox Christians. Because whatever happens good or bad to the Church and those who are in it also effects you and me because it’s a body.I would like to point out that St Augustine said some things that weren't accepted by the Church, but we still consider him a saint. I have been following Fr Tryphon for several years. He sometimes says a few things of his personal opinion that isn't always well received, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have grace. Let us pray for him.
Precisely. This is a point that Abbot Tryphon emphasizes in his teaching. He even admits that there were some things that he didn't agree with in Orthodoxy when he converted, but he resolved to keep him mouth shut in such cases. Over time God works on us and changes our hearts and minds.there are examples of the Fathers changing their mind based on correction, but note that on the whole, they are always seeking and tending towards the truth.
I think his point on ecumenism isn't that it is not a problem, but that it doesn't pose the existential threat that it did back in the 70's when organizations such as the World Council of Churches was more prominent and people such as St. Justin Popovich were defending the Faith against ecumenism energetically. Regarding the gay roommates, it does seem like that would be a potentially compromising situation.I did additionally find his defense of two formerly gay men (who were once in a "relationship) living together celibately very odd as well, and his claim that ecumenism isn't a problem anymore
I tend to agree with this statement. We can say that the sacraments of non-orthodox confessions are completely devoid of grace and we wouldn't be wrong, however there might be some nuance that could be added to that statement. For example, if I was trying to lead a Roman Catholic to the Faith, I wouldn’t lead with this argument.There is no Eucharistic mystery outside the Orthodox Church.
Lord have mercy!Abbot Tryphon being forced to step down from his role as police and fire chaplain for Vashon Island for not submitting to the "vaccine". Lord have mercy on the abbot, who has been beaten, mocked, and now fired for his faith, and may we find the strength to follow in his footsteps.
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- St. Paisios the AthoniteBut we are responsible for not letting the enemies of the Church corrupt everything. Though I’ve heard even priests say: “Don’t get involved in that. It’s none of your business!” If they had reached such a non-striving condition through prayer I would kiss their feet. But no! They’re indifferent because they want to please everyone and live in comfort. Indifference is unacceptable even for laymen, and all the more so for the clergy. An honest, spiritual man doesn’t do anything with indifference. “Cursed be he that doeth the work of the Lord deceitfully”, says the Prophet Jeremiah (Jer. 48:10). There’s a war on today, a holy war. I must be on the front lines. ... I see what awaits us, and it’s painful for me. The bitter taste of human pain is in my mouth.