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<blockquote data-quote="Penitent" data-source="post: 1515891" data-attributes="member: 20857">Thank you all for being gracious.&nbsp; It looks like we can come to some reasonable conclusions here if we put our heads together.Precisely.&nbsp; This is a point that Abbot Tryphon emphasizes in his teaching.&nbsp; He even admits that there were some things that he didn&#039;t agree with in Orthodoxy when he converted, but he resolved to keep him mouth shut in such cases.&nbsp; Over time God works on us and changes our hearts and minds.I think his point on ecumenism isn&#039;t that it is not a problem, but that it doesn&#039;t pose the existential threat that it did back in the 70&#039;s when organizations such as the World Council of Churches was more prominent and people such as St. Justin Popovich were defending the Faith against ecumenism energetically.&nbsp; Regarding the gay roommates, it does seem like that would be a potentially compromising situation.I tend to agree with this statement.&nbsp; We can say that the sacraments of non-orthodox confessions are completely devoid of grace and we wouldn&#039;t be wrong, however there might be some nuance that could be added to that statement.&nbsp; For example, if I was trying to lead a Roman Catholic to the Faith, I wouldn’t lead with this argument.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Penitent, post: 1515891, member: 20857"] Thank you all for being gracious. It looks like we can come to some reasonable conclusions here if we put our heads together. Precisely. This is a point that Abbot Tryphon emphasizes in his teaching. He even admits that there were some things that he didn't agree with in Orthodoxy when he converted, but he resolved to keep him mouth shut in such cases. Over time God works on us and changes our hearts and minds. I think his point on ecumenism isn't that it is not a problem, but that it doesn't pose the existential threat that it did back in the 70's when organizations such as the World Council of Churches was more prominent and people such as St. Justin Popovich were defending the Faith against ecumenism energetically. Regarding the gay roommates, it does seem like that would be a potentially compromising situation. I tend to agree with this statement. We can say that the sacraments of non-orthodox confessions are completely devoid of grace and we wouldn't be wrong, however there might be some nuance that could be added to that statement. For example, if I was trying to lead a Roman Catholic to the Faith, I wouldn’t lead with this argument. [/QUOTE]

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