Absolutely best takedown/argument against gun control

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Malekhit

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houston said:
Why are foreigners so obsessed with American culture and gun policies?

America is like big brother to most of the countries and most of the countries look up to America, they want to be like America. Plus America is so diverse that you can find anything you wish there.
 

Alpharius

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houston said:
Why are foreigners so obsessed with American culture and gun policies?

Because the rest of the world is baffled by it, in my experience.

We go around the world promoting democratic efforts, but refuse to give up our guns in case our democracy fails us.

We claim to be the leader of the free world, but we can't keep our children safe. Again and again they see news of mass shootings in the US and go, "Why do these guys think they're so much better when they can't get their shit together?"

Here's something that was going around facespace a couple weeks ago. Sixteen foreigners and what they couldn't believe about America until the moved here. Guns gets mentioned about as much as food and cars.
 

Sombro

Ostrich
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Malekhit said:
houston said:
Why are foreigners so obsessed with American culture and gun policies?

America is like big brother to most of the countries and most of the countries look up to America, they want to be like America. Plus America is so diverse that you can find anything you wish there.

On the flip side:
I have a friend in Australia who says they air "Good Morning America" on TV. wtf?

That, and add international editions of Time and Newsweek, plus Hollywood's version of the U.S., and no wonder people some people hate America, based on this narrow vision of how things supposedly are here.
 

Kaizen

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Are background checks reasonable for those seeking firearms? To exclude a psychiatric history, for example. A number of recent mass killings in the US have been caused by these individuals.

Just curious.

I'm not american, so a gun free or gun filled USA doesn't make a difference to me personally.
 

Screwston

 
Banned
Not if you just buy a gun from someone selling a used one. I sold a pistol in a Dennys parking lot the other day to someone from a Facebook sell page.
 

Tail Gunner

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Windom Earle said:
But, if immediacy of a kill is what you're after in the heat of the moment, having access to firearms will lead to people being killed and wounded by these weapons.

That makes logical sense does it not?

That makes no sense whatsoever. Using that logic, if people were that mentally unstable and prone to violence, the highway system would be a giant war zone of death and carnage. A vehicle is a far more effective killing machine than a firearm.
 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
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Osiris said:
I have a background in law enforcement and I switched career paths a few years ago and am currently working in education at a major city public school. I still have my conceal and carry license, but I would never take a gun outside the home except to the range for practice (it's something fun I do with the bros from time to time). I've been in a lot of situations, at no point when I wasn't in uniform would a weapon have made a positive difference.

That is a wonderful theoretical argument to make, at least until you are actually placed in a life-threatening situation. After being accosted by three gang bangers, I might not be alive today if not for the presence of my Beretta. Once they saw the handgun, they decided that they had other things to do -- and other people to see. And yes, being alive has made "a positive difference" in my life.

Conceal and Carry: If you've taken any weapon training you know it takes time to draw and fire your weapon. Even someone trained and ready takes enough time to draw as it takes an attacker to move roughly 21ft.

I had plenty of time to see what was coming. Those gang bangers wanted me to see what was coming. I changed directions three times to avoid them. Each time, they changed direction to intercept me. They were getting off on it. But you should have seen their faces when the role reversal occurred.

It makes no sense to make such theoretical arguments. Every scenario is different. Everyone should have the choice as to whether to defend themselves.
 

Screwston

 
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Winton Earle, why aren't states like New Mexico Arizona, Nevada, Texas war zones then? I don't even think you need a license in AZ to walk around and have it showing. Funny how the biggest crime shitholes have hardcore gun restrictions like Chicago.
 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Malekhit said:
USA have over 89 guns per capita soooooo its almost double to any other country in the world therefore your argument is invalid....

We also don't talk about homicide but school shootings.... also these are homicide by using everything from sticks to guns, so it just irrelevant to the topic subject.

What kind of logic is that? If the U.S. has a huge per capita gun ownership and yet has an average murder rate compared to most other nations, even those with low gun ownership levels, then that merely proves that those other countries are the ones with the murder problem -- not the U.S.
 

Tail Gunner

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Malekhit said:
wiscanada said:
Shotgun Styles said:
Malekhit said:
Instead protecting the kids shoot them on the spot, yay instant solution. Weird that only USA have problem with guns, no other country in the world have school shootings....

Excuse me, what?

European School Shootings

Malekhit..you are canadian? Marc Lapine and Ecole Polytechnique gets brought up every other day among other Canadian School Shootings

I'm Polish Canadian. You linked 6 shootings which 2 were in 70's 1 were in 80's and 2 were in 2000 which latest one was in 2006. so in period of 40 years you had only 6 shootings...

Ohh well lets compare Canadian school shootings to USA school shootings. I Can't even count because every year you have so many of them, here is the link enjoy scrolling down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

here is Malasian proverb "An ant across the ocean is seen, but not the elephant nearby."

1. You make the claim that "Weird that only USA have problem with guns, no other country in the world have school shootings...."

2. Then he proves you dead wrong.

3. Then instead of graciously admitting that you were wrong and addressing the original issue, you change the topic.

Here is a Manosphere proverb "A beautiful babe across the ocean is seen, but not the hamster in the mirror."


:malehamster:
 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
houston said:
Why are foreigners so obsessed with American culture and gun policies?

That is actually quite understandable. We have a right that most people in the world do not, so they find it somewhat exotic. You must remember that half the people in the world do not even have the right to free speech.

That, combined with the insane levels of gun violence portrayed in American movies, inserted by the same profit-taking whores who would destroy that right, makes it a tantalizing issue for many people in other countries.

But not all other countries! From one of friends from down under:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU

It looks like a fine Cambodian shooting gallery!
 

Pete

 
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Rotisserie said:
I eat a lot less fatty food and sport a pretty decent body as long as I don't have the food in the house. But if I have the cereal and hot pockets, I'm scarfing them down.

The more interesting thing is how pro-gun people swear on their lives that gun control would not solve the problem, or at least alleviate it. So it's only fair to post what I think is a pretty good argument for gun control. It's also funnier.



That interview is totally edited with the purpose of making one of the parties involved look stupid. So manipulating the words and geestures someone said into something that looks laughable does not serve as a good argument for anything.
 
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