Adderall isn't the miracle drug everyone makes it out to be

Does anyone else find it difficult to communicate, while using Adderall? I tried it fairly recently before a big exam and could definitely feel its stimulating effect, but, I felt as if my mind could only concentrate on one thing at a time. I had to pause a little bit while I was talking with other people and I wasn't sure if this is normal or just a little bit of a poor reaction to the drug.
 

Zep

Pelican
Other Christian
I was diagnosed four years ago, I knew I had Adhd ( an inability to sit still ).

I'm on 60mgs right now and want to say something that I think is important.

Adderall and other consciousness influencing drugs can help you realize that 'consciousness' is chemical. This can be a great thing, because it can mean that the 'hell' you are going through for no apparent reason, is a brain chemistry issue.

Take any street you've walked down at least fifty times and are very familiar with. You probably have a set of feelings and thoughts associated with it.

Now take adderall, note the interpretation of the same street. It will be different.

Or, take LSD, the interpretation of the street will be extremely different.

Same street, different experience of it due to a difference in brain chemistry.

I would recommend Adderall to people who have been depressed if only to show them that their brains are in fact, capable, of much better functioning, and to show them that there is another world other than the one they are sadly stuck in. It can crack the bubble for a few hours.

When I was on LSD 30 yrs ago, my body felt like a meat jacket, it was clear to me that I was a spirit inhabiting this body thing, I also felt love, pure love, and joy. It was incredible, however, this is like putting a turbo-charger on a car and pushing the engine to 12000 rpms, it will burnout, similarly if you take too much LSD you will fry your circuits, we are just not designed for this kind of constant elevated experience. We must come down.

When we come down we are 'down to earth' again and need to operate in this dimension with its relative parameters. We have an 'ego' or personality to interface with the world. That's it function, to interface with the material world.

I have been thinking lately about my drop-off of interest in women and sex. I'm 50 something so this is normal apparently and a result of lowering testosterone. What I notice I'm craving more these days is connection and love. If someone half-decent offered me sex I probably wouldn't take it, actually I've met a couple of much younger Pua's who have refused sex simply because they were 'bored of it'...they'd rather do other activities than engage in empty, connectionless, sex.

Back to Adderall, I'm on 60 mgs right now so I'm rambling a tad.

It can work, I can sit still for about 3 hours, but it won't think for you, it has made the conditions necessary ( sitting still ) available to me so that I stand a fighting chance of disciplining my mind. It's still difficult. I see this Persian man in the coffee shop studying 8 hours a day, monday to friday, I'm stunned, a little envious, this guy studies at least 40 hours a week, dammit, if I could do that my life would be completely different. There he is, every day, working on very very complex stuff, 8 hours a day, and when I talk to him we joke about this and that, in other words, he's normal, has friends, family and girlfriends. Why can't I be like that?

There is a down side to Adderall, and that is the crash. After about 3 or 4 hours of the good part I start to notice I get in a reeeeally bad mood. People make me sick, I want to punch them, I hate them, I hate the world, this is typical btw, I've spoken to others who state the same. It's a dopamine or serotonin crash I guess, and it is very unpleasant. The movie "Limitless" with Bradley Cooper, is clearly about Adderall type stimulants.

The only thing you can do is to eat after 3 hours. Adderall kills appetite, you have to force yourself to eat, otherwise the crash is going to be very nasty. Eat a massive bowl of spaghetti, or a big meal with chicken and carbs, it can make a big difference in the severity of the crash.

One day I will stop taking these things. I have had enough of the ups and downs now, and will try to figure out a better and healthier way into this state using diet and yoga.

That's it for now, hope this helps someone.
 
How do you guys approach your GP to get dexies?

Can you tell him something like hey Doc, I think I have ADD pls prescribe me some amphetamines

I did it that way with Viagra and it worked but I suspect asking for harder drugs might be different


Modafinil works for me, it gives me very mild high but my creativity sucks, its almost non existent. Combining it with a good green tea helps.
 

Zep

Pelican
Other Christian
If Modafinil works for you then don't bother with Adderall.

I seriously needed it.

I forgot to mention that Adderall improves focus at the expense of awareness ( maybe this is why your creativity isn't so hot on modafinil )

In some ways I become dumber on Adderall, I'm far less aware, and find it a struggle to find the right word, or remember something when I'm on it. I notice that my dreams are also shallow when I sleep after a day on it, like, no feeling or depth. So, I take breaks, let my brain recover, make sure I get at least one night of very deep dreaming in, then I feel right again, back on track.

Now that I think of it, Adderall makes me into an "Efficient Worker" like George Carlin once said. I'm focused, okay with what i'm doing, and not bothered with the responsibilities that come with awareness. A chemically induced blissful? ignorance. I wonder if the over-prescribing to kids is partly a sinister plot. I think giving this to undeveloped brains is risky business.
 

Laner

Crow
Protestant
Gold Member
I have only taken it as a way to grind through a 16 hour day.

But from outside observation of friends who have a prescription, it is THE SINGLE BIGGEST HUMOR DESTROYER.

Make no mistake, 80% of the jokes spoken in a social environment will go straight over your head.
 

LowerCaseG

 
Banned
Zep said:
LowerCaseG said:
60 mg is a very very high dose.

Yes it is. Tolerance.

Tolerance is a real issue. I specifically try not to take it every day so it keeps working. Usually MWF, but even that schedule tends to lose efficacy over time. I really like taking it on Monday to start off the week productively, and shit out everything I consumed over the weekend.

The extended release should ameliorate some of your crash issues.
 

INTJ333

Chicken
I've taken Adderall and for me the dopamine spike made me do stupid stuff like look at porn on no-fap and even go back to smoking 1 or 2 cigs a day. I see it as the Devil's drug. It might be good short-term but it is slowly destroying your body long-term. I think I almost had a UTI on Adderall. It made me hurt to piss... And yes the effect only lasts a few hours and you always need more.. I would only recommend to college students or professionals who absolutely have to get shit done fast.
 

BigStretch

Chicken
Dexedrine got me through university, and really helps me do things that I don't enjoy doing, job applications included.

Makes me socially retarded though and messes with my other wise good mood, so I stay clear of it.
 

BlastbeatCasanova

Kingfisher
"Side Effects:
High irritability.
Bests shits I've ever taken."

100%. The comedown makes me absolutely hate everything. And my ass would pretty much explode whenever I took it. Still a fan though. Don't forget hardcore dry-mouth (at least for me).

I think I saw in a supplement thread on here a poster recommended a couple of supps to negate the oxidation of nerve cells (apparently heavy stimulant use causes this) and something else to ease the comedown.

Whenever I take it I feel geeked as hell, super sociable and like I can convince anyone to do anything. A ton of guys at my old sales job used it religiously to consistently put up numbers. This shit is definitely effective. I have a few tucked away in case I ever need it, definitely wouldn't want to make it a daily thing though.
 
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