ADHD does not exist...

[Thomas the Rhymer]

I know a few parents who basically have refused to feed their kids sugary stuff, and by age 7/8 these kids actually have an aversion to sweets. I think their brains end up being wired differently, they don't perceive strong sweetness as being pleasant.

Are we talking about fructose or sucrose, Thomas? How does fructose fair on the human brain? Same opiate effect or different?

haha.. you are asking a doctor about nutrition ?

might as well ask a politician what a balance sheet looks like while you are at it

Touche!

I admit I'm not a nutritionist, but I know a little bit about nutrients, especially when it relates to disease.

Of course, if you're not making mistakes then you're not learning - so maybe I get it wrong from time to time.

But yes, anyone and everyone is always free to disagree with what I say. That's how we grow in knowledge, by sharing ideas, and figuring out where we may be wrong and reinforcing where we may be right.

 

[WanderingSoul]

Kids are not meant to sit inside for 8 hours a day studying. Especially when what they are teaching could easily be condensed into less than half of that time.

Schools are sheep factories, churning out brainwashed clones to contribute to the economy and not disrupt the status quo.

 

[Suits]

I'll tell my story and share my thoughts.

When I was 20 and in college, a classmate described her condition to me, ADHD. A lot of what she described sounded very familiar. I did some more research and started to understand a few new things about myself.

I grew up in a pretty healthy family. Money was always tight, so there weren't a lot of cool Christmas gifts, but my parents spend what little money they did have on proper nutrition and there was one movie a week, which we watched as a family and no video games.

When we did get a computer, I used it to create my own programs and didn't spend hours playing games.

I'd say that my childhood was very healthy, at least compared to literally all my peers.

And yet, somehow I had enough ADHD symptoms to clearly fit the definition of the condition.

I hadn't been an out of control child. I'd just daydreamed a lot and struggled to complete tasks.



The conclusion that I've come to is that ADHD/ADD is an umbrella that probably covers a whole lot things that probably shouldn't fall into the same category.

I'm not sure if poor parenting causes some forms of ADHD/ADD or if it just aggravates the condition.

In my family's case, despite parents who basically sacrificed their own goals and happiness for their five children, three of us have been diagnosed with ADHD/ADD.

My speculation is that in the extreme cases, it is a disorder. But for most people, it is just a different way for a brain to be setup.

Unfortunately, this type of brain doesn't exist well in a society where we sit children in neat rows five days a week for the first 22 years of their life.

Most of congress is believed to fall within the bounds of ADHD/ADD and they've been saying that long before the current gridlock occurred.

When 25% of people have a "condition" I think it's time to accept that it may simply be a facet of humanity.

 

[DonRoberto]

Now another prominent guy who claims ADHD does not exist is meeting members of the British Government this week:
First thre paragraphs

One of the world's leading neuroscientists, whose work has been acknowledged by work and pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith, has suggested that attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is not "a real disease".

On the eve of a visit to Britain to meet Duncan Smith and the health secretary, Jeremy Hunt, Dr Bruce D Perry told the Observer that the label of ADHD outlined a broad set of symptoms. "It is best thought of as a description. If you look at how you end up with that label, it is remarkable because any one of us at any given time would fit at least a couple of those criteria," he said.

Prescriptions for methylphenidate drugs, such as Ritalin, which are used to treat children diagnosed as suffering from ADHD, have soared by 56% in the UK, from 420,000 in 2007 to 657,000 in 2012. Such "psychostimulants" are thought to stimulate a part of the brain that changes mental and behavioural reactions

Here is the link

 

[xpatplayer]

I'll tell my story and share my thoughts.

When I was 20 and in college, a classmate described her condition to me, ADHD. A lot of what she described sounded very familiar. I did some more research and started to understand a few new things about myself.

I grew up in a pretty healthy family. Money was always tight, so there weren't a lot of cool Christmas gifts, but my parents spend what little money they did have on proper nutrition and there was one movie a week, which we watched as a family and no video games.

When we did get a computer, I used it to create my own programs and didn't spend hours playing games.

I'd say that my childhood was very healthy, at least compared to literally all my peers.

And yet, somehow I had enough ADHD symptoms to clearly fit the definition of the condition.

I hadn't been an out of control child. I'd just daydreamed a lot and struggled to complete tasks.



The conclusion that I've come to is that ADHD/ADD is an umbrella that probably covers a whole lot things that probably shouldn't fall into the same category.

I'm not sure if poor parenting causes some forms of ADHD/ADD or if it just aggravates the condition.

In my family's case, despite parents who basically sacrificed their own goals and happiness for their five children, three of us have been diagnosed with ADHD/ADD.

My speculation is that in the extreme cases, it is a disorder. But for most people, it is just a different way for a brain to be setup.

Unfortunately, this type of brain doesn't exist well in a society where we sit children in neat rows five days a week for the first 22 years of their life.

Most of congress is believed to fall within the bounds of ADHD/ADD and they've been saying that long before the current gridlock occurred.

When 25% of people have a "condition" I think it's time to accept that it may simply be a facet of humanity.

Thanks a lot for this reply. I get extremely emotional when talking about ADD and ADHD medication. I was diagnosed with ADHD multiple times as a young child. All my doctors prescribed ritalin and all my teachers suggested I had ADHD.

Today, if there's one thing I'm grateful to my parents for, its not getting me on ritalin or adderall. Everyone I kow today (late-teens and early-20s) who has been on ADHD medication is emotionally unhealthy. They are either chronically depressed or have an incapability to empathize with other people.

My story was similar to Suits'. Never was destructive, but was (and still am) very right-brained. I was always daydreaming and could never pay attention to boring classes but somehow always did better on standardized tests than all the other kids. When it came to high school, I aced the standardized tests (top 1% in the SAT nationally) but did ok in my classes.

If I want to work on something, I will sit down for hours and create something great. When I don't want to, I will procrastinate until the last moment and do half-ass job. Not the best strategy to succeed academically but a great strategy for what I want to do once I graduate. I still fulfill my responsibilities but cannot do well for myself on something I don't like, even though I can do so for a team.

What am I trying to get at? Its simple - ADHD medications create drones out of the most creative members of society, often with destructive results. I'm extremely happy that the mainstream is finally taking note of this. Pretty sure society will be healthier if we get rid of this abomination.

 

[Vaun]

My date told me I had ADD on Friday when she was droning on and on about herself.

 

[iknowexactly]

haha.. you are asking a doctor about nutrition ?

might as well ask a politician what a balance sheet looks like while you are at it

Touche!

I admit I'm not a nutritionist, but I know a little bit about nutrients, especially when it relates to disease.

Trolling here:
Yeah, ask a guy who studied organic and inorganic chemistry, physiology, anatomy, neurology, glandular systems, the digestive system, blood chemistry and disorders.. and has seen at least 1000 patients by the time he gets his license...-- ask HIM about nutrition when you can ask a BRO who LIFTS.... absurd, right?

Active ignorance should be pointed out for what it is.

 

[Akula]

I always thought ADD was pretty much just 1) big Pharma pushing yet another one of their drugs on the masses (just like with anti-depressants and of course drugs for things like 'restless leg syndrome') and 2) a way for teachers to foster completely compliant little boys in their classes who don't cause a fuss- (mostly female teachers I'd bet these days too). Now it's pretty clear it might just be a made up affliction. How could something like 25%+ of young boys have some 'disease' like this? Gimme a break.

I'm just wondering when things like 'gluten intolerance' also get flagged as made up diseases (or misdiagnoses).

@IKE - I hear ya bro BUT remember these doctors are basically in bed with Big Pharma at least in the US and Europe. They've had sexy 20-something ladies right out of college pushing product on them and giving out endless free samples for many years now. Not at all saying Thomas is like that but the system in the West is set up to promote more and more drug usage across the board during the treatment phase. And it's increasingly happening across the globe...I noticed it even in Russia the past few years. It's mostly about the $$$s these days.