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<blockquote data-quote="WestIndianArchie" data-source="post: 811014" data-attributes="member: 810">Not that the pay off was millions of dollars,But that the pay off did not come for millions of people.I thought that was obvious the way I wrote it.The pay off - the house, the 2 cars, the wife/spouse, 2.5 kids - Millions and millions of people in the richest country in the world have not achieved this despite doing everything they were told to do to get it.'When you have numbers like that, it's not individual choice or some sort of moral failing that RVF likes to apply to things it doesn't like.It's systemic.&nbsp; It's bigger than choosing to be a civil engineer and not a electrical engineer. No one with a history degree expects to be living with their parents in their mid 20's.&nbsp;&nbsp; A person with a business degree does not expect to be assistant managing an Enterprise Rental Car spot.Most of you guys are young.&nbsp; I remember when tech crashed and those newly minted CS degrees became hard sells.&nbsp; 2-3 years of not doing much, of doing Tech Support, and some guy younger than you gets to work at a start up because he graduated into a better economy.&nbsp; Despite you knowing more.&nbsp; The unproven guy gets a phone call, and your resume just sits on monster, getting calls from insurance companies looking for salesmen. I'm old enough to remember when the oil crash came too.&nbsp; You guys don't really see how the ladder to success is not only broken, but an illusion. The same matrix that exists when it comes to banging girls exists for making money. What you've learned all of your life serves the society, not you personally. WIA</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WestIndianArchie, post: 811014, member: 810"] Not that the pay off was millions of dollars, But that the pay off did not come for millions of people. I thought that was obvious the way I wrote it. The pay off - the house, the 2 cars, the wife/spouse, 2.5 kids - Millions and millions of people in the richest country in the world have not achieved this despite doing everything they were told to do to get it.' When you have numbers like that, it's not individual choice or some sort of moral failing that RVF likes to apply to things it doesn't like. It's systemic. It's bigger than choosing to be a civil engineer and not a electrical engineer. No one with a history degree expects to be living with their parents in their mid 20's. A person with a business degree does not expect to be assistant managing an Enterprise Rental Car spot. Most of you guys are young. I remember when tech crashed and those newly minted CS degrees became hard sells. 2-3 years of not doing much, of doing Tech Support, and some guy younger than you gets to work at a start up because he graduated into a better economy. Despite you knowing more. The unproven guy gets a phone call, and your resume just sits on monster, getting calls from insurance companies looking for salesmen. I'm old enough to remember when the oil crash came too. You guys don't really see how the ladder to success is not only broken, but an illusion. The same matrix that exists when it comes to banging girls exists for making money. What you've learned all of your life serves the society, not you personally. WIA [/QUOTE]

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