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<blockquote data-quote="C-Note" data-source="post: 1546581" data-attributes="member: 9873">It&#039;s going to be harder for you to justify confronting someone with a gun if they&#039;re trespassing on someone else&#039;s property and that person hasn&#039;t asked you to defend their property, as in the Kyle Rittenhouse case.&nbsp; It&#039;s a completely different story if you&#039;re defending your own property or property that someone has asked you or paid you to defend.If I understand right, neighborhood watch groups and Guardian Angels are usually instructed only to get into confrontations if an apparently innocent victim is being physically assaulted.&nbsp; Otherwise, they&#039;re supposed to observe and call the police.&nbsp; If you initiate a physical confrontation, you will likely be at least partially culpable for what happens.&nbsp; That&#039;s what appears to have happened in this case.&nbsp; These guys initiated a physical confrontation and someone ended up getting killed.&nbsp; It&#039;s not automatically self-defense when you&#039;re the one who initiated the confrontation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="C-Note, post: 1546581, member: 9873"] It's going to be harder for you to justify confronting someone with a gun if they're trespassing on someone else's property and that person hasn't asked you to defend their property, as in the Kyle Rittenhouse case. It's a completely different story if you're defending your own property or property that someone has asked you or paid you to defend. If I understand right, neighborhood watch groups and Guardian Angels are usually instructed only to get into confrontations if an apparently innocent victim is being physically assaulted. Otherwise, they're supposed to observe and call the police. If you initiate a physical confrontation, you will likely be at least partially culpable for what happens. That's what appears to have happened in this case. These guys initiated a physical confrontation and someone ended up getting killed. It's not automatically self-defense when you're the one who initiated the confrontation. [/QUOTE]

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