I forgot about this thread but I do GHB now instead of drinking when I can help it. It definitely works for me when I do it. I feel fine the next day. No hangover and can train hard.
Alternatives to drinking-GHB
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It's addictive. It's easy to OD on. It's fun and makes you horny and makes girls horny and is a social disinhibitor. You don't get hangovers from it, and it helps with recovery from a workout.
But there is evidence that it causes cognitive decline.
I have a bottle of the stuff in my closet that I haven't touched in two years.
But there is evidence that it causes cognitive decline.
I have a bottle of the stuff in my closet that I haven't touched in two years.
There's this shit called Ex-Tenze, it's basically dick pills, but it has some kind of herb in it called yohimbe. I wouldn't recommend trying it more than once. It doesn't actually increase the size of your tool but it will turn you into an unstoppable walking hardon for about five to eight hours. I popped a couple once before a party and ended up drinking pretty heavily, and had some kind of arrhythmia. I wouldn't try it if you have a heart condition. It just feels like a low-grade continual stream of adrenaline.
_DC_, chemicals are a slippery slope to combating anxiety. You tried booze once, and it didn't work, yeah? So I will quietly self promote my blog and you should buy a book on resistance training to help kill your general anxiety.
_DC_, chemicals are a slippery slope to combating anxiety. You tried booze once, and it didn't work, yeah? So I will quietly self promote my blog and you should buy a book on resistance training to help kill your general anxiety.
G was VERY good at exactly what Fisto wants. We used it a lot back in it's (legal) days, it was a phenomenal alcohol substitute. You've got to be careful to pre-measure and time your doses, you can't just drink when you feel like a drink, you'll fuck yourself up bad.
A typical G night - drive to the club, dose in the car, be fabulously "drunk" for a few hours, then suddenly sober for the ride home. Dose again for bedtime, pass out after fabulous drunk, wake up early the next morrning ready to work out with the most amazing energy/feel-good feeling. It was kind of a "reverse hangover".
The other major risk - the worst beer-google effect of anything you'll ever encounter. You will sleep with ANYTHING on this stuff.
A typical G night - drive to the club, dose in the car, be fabulously "drunk" for a few hours, then suddenly sober for the ride home. Dose again for bedtime, pass out after fabulous drunk, wake up early the next morrning ready to work out with the most amazing energy/feel-good feeling. It was kind of a "reverse hangover".
The other major risk - the worst beer-google effect of anything you'll ever encounter. You will sleep with ANYTHING on this stuff.
Man, I've been in the same exact boat as Fisto recently.
Love GBL as an alternative to alcohol. No hangover. Does give me problems with getting to sleep but a small dose of benzo alleviates that. Also, I'm don't become an angry asshole on GBL like I do when I get drunk
Both its pro and con is its short halflife. You want it to last longer and have to redose often. This is good because there's no hangover and you can 'sober' up in 30 minutes after a dose, it's bad cause I'd be popping GBL caps in the club and you have to hide it in your underwear then pop them like you're poppin in a piece of chewing gum to avoid detection LOL!!!!
But having no hangover is great. The increase in GH is a plus too.
Tip: put them in gelatin capsules. They wont dissolve the gelatin unless you keep them in it for a week or so. Just get an eyedropper. Approx .9g GBL fits in an 000 cap.
I don't get 'beer goggles' like Fisto gets. I do get horny from GBL but only for attractive girls
Warning: it can be addictive and you'll want to dose all fucking day long. This isn't good. Baclofen can be useful for tapering the major withdrawal symptoms if you do get to this point.
Love GBL as an alternative to alcohol. No hangover. Does give me problems with getting to sleep but a small dose of benzo alleviates that. Also, I'm don't become an angry asshole on GBL like I do when I get drunk
Both its pro and con is its short halflife. You want it to last longer and have to redose often. This is good because there's no hangover and you can 'sober' up in 30 minutes after a dose, it's bad cause I'd be popping GBL caps in the club and you have to hide it in your underwear then pop them like you're poppin in a piece of chewing gum to avoid detection LOL!!!!
But having no hangover is great. The increase in GH is a plus too.
Tip: put them in gelatin capsules. They wont dissolve the gelatin unless you keep them in it for a week or so. Just get an eyedropper. Approx .9g GBL fits in an 000 cap.
I don't get 'beer goggles' like Fisto gets. I do get horny from GBL but only for attractive girls
Warning: it can be addictive and you'll want to dose all fucking day long. This isn't good. Baclofen can be useful for tapering the major withdrawal symptoms if you do get to this point.
Have any of you tried kava? It's a great legal alternative to drinking. It is a strong drink made from kava root widely consumed in Polynesia. It has a very strong earthy flavor and numbs your mouth slightly when you drink it. It makes you feel VERY relaxed without making you feel fucked up. It also makes you feel really elated. You may need to drink it a few times before you experience the effects. But the more you drink it the more effective it is.
If you're interested in trying it you can get it in most health food stores for cheap. I have seen dried kava root powder and capsules. In my experience taking capsules isn't as effective as making your own drink with the powder. Traditionally kava root powder is wrapped in cheesecloth, submerge it in water, and massage it to release the active ingredients (kavalactones). You can also cold brew it like any other tea in a jar over night. I also like to mix it with coconut milk or coconut water. I'd highly recommend it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kava
If you're interested in trying it you can get it in most health food stores for cheap. I have seen dried kava root powder and capsules. In my experience taking capsules isn't as effective as making your own drink with the powder. Traditionally kava root powder is wrapped in cheesecloth, submerge it in water, and massage it to release the active ingredients (kavalactones). You can also cold brew it like any other tea in a jar over night. I also like to mix it with coconut milk or coconut water. I'd highly recommend it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kava
HiFlo said:Man, I've been in the same exact boat as Fisto recently.
Love GBL as an alternative to alcohol. No hangover. Does give me problems with getting to sleep but a small dose of benzo alleviates that. Also, I'm don't become an angry asshole on GBL like I do when I get drunk
Both its pro and con is its short halflife. You want it to last longer and have to redose often. This is good because there's no hangover and you can 'sober' up in 30 minutes after a dose, it's bad cause I'd be popping GBL caps in the club and you have to hide it in your underwear then pop them like you're poppin in a piece of chewing gum to avoid detection LOL!!!!
But having no hangover is great. The increase in GH is a plus too.
Tip: put them in gelatin capsules. They wont dissolve the gelatin unless you keep them in it for a week or so. Just get an eyedropper. Approx .9g GBL fits in an 000 cap.
I don't get 'beer goggles' like Fisto gets. I do get horny from GBL but only for attractive girls
Warning: it can be addictive and you'll want to dose all fucking day long. This isn't good. Baclofen can be useful for tapering the major withdrawal symptoms if you do get to this point.
Whoa whoa, I never said I got the googles! haha.
But that's a great idea. Can you go more in depth about how to make the capsules?
Just fill 2 piece gelatin capsules with GBL. For me, an effective GBL dose is about 1.5 - 2ml every 1-1.5hrs. Since the specific gravity of GBL is 1.12, this means that my effective dosage is 1.7 - 2.4g. Each 000 capsule holds about 0.8-0.9g, so I generally pop 2 every hour or hour-and-a-half.
The more common capsules are 0 or 00 size, which hold less. You just need to figure out the avg fill weight. Here's a link to 0 size caps on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Empty-Gelatin-Capsules-Size-500/dp/B000AHCPEC
Use an eyedropper to fill the larger half and place the top over it.
If you're using GHB instead of GBL, it's less potent. GHB on the street will often be in various dilutions so you have to find the correct dosage for you. It will invariably require more caps though.
The nice thing about caps besides their portability is you don't get that nasty taste from the GBL.
Also, I learned the hard way that if a girl asks you why you are drinking water instead of beer, NEVER NEVER go "eh, I bombed some GHB earlier instead." hahahahaha, don't tell em you take G at all. LOL.
The more common capsules are 0 or 00 size, which hold less. You just need to figure out the avg fill weight. Here's a link to 0 size caps on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Empty-Gelatin-Capsules-Size-500/dp/B000AHCPEC
Use an eyedropper to fill the larger half and place the top over it.
If you're using GHB instead of GBL, it's less potent. GHB on the street will often be in various dilutions so you have to find the correct dosage for you. It will invariably require more caps though.
The nice thing about caps besides their portability is you don't get that nasty taste from the GBL.
Also, I learned the hard way that if a girl asks you why you are drinking water instead of beer, NEVER NEVER go "eh, I bombed some GHB earlier instead." hahahahaha, don't tell em you take G at all. LOL.
Also, the best alternative for drinking is probably mdma. Wow, what great vibes you get from that! Everything seems wonderful and you're full of optimism. You shouldn't really do that more than once every 2-3 weeks though And there is a bit of a hangover. Although G will greatly negate the FX of the hangover over the next couple days as long as you don't keep taking it 24/7.
Phenibut is crap compared to G. The withdrawals are worse on Phenibut, and more importantly the half-life of phenibut is just too f'n long. It also doesn't have the same extent of increased sociability or euphoria.
And there is a bit of a hangover. Although G will greatly negate the FX of the hangover over the next couple days as long as you don't keep taking it 24/7.Phenibut is crap compared to G. The withdrawals are worse on Phenibut, and more importantly the half-life of phenibut is just too f'n long. It also doesn't have the same extent of increased sociability or euphoria.
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Where can I get a hold of GHB in London?
AlbertoDelMuerto
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I will ask this bodybuilder dude who works out at my gym. This dude also did time at the penitentiary for I dunno what.
HiFlo said:
Wait...What is GBL? It's different from GHB?
Mushrooms. About 1/4 of a normal dose. Complete control over inhibitions and no drunk/drugged feeling. Also improves your psychological markers for opennes, sociability and resistance to depression. Long term improvement. In one study "openness" increased with tests indicating effect a year after
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HiFlo said:
billy said:
I have never heard of these two! Do they work well?
AMT is far too strong for most unless you are out raving but if you walk up Camden high-street towards the bridge that goes over the road with Camden lock written on it and turn let into the market you will see a stall usually run by a guy with dreads, ask him for some E-scapes and try a couple, they are fully legal so no worries there.
Hahahah, be careful with this G shit. Don't go overboard. I popped one cap too many and I passed out in the middle of the sidewalk in the club district at like 11AM. hahahahaha. Got taken to the hospital. By the time I was at the hospital I was dead sober, pulled the IV out of my arm, blood spurted all over my clothes, and walked out the door and went back downtown at 12:15AM.
Had to deal with stupid shit, "Weren't you the dude who passed out just an hour ago in the middle of the street" all fucking night long. The doormen who got wind of it wouldn't let me in. Best excuse I could come up with was I was on prozac and had a couple drinks which messed my whole system up.
Not the best reputation to get. Now the cops have me on the radar too, and not for drinking, they knew I was on something else. hahahahahaha.
Had to deal with stupid shit, "Weren't you the dude who passed out just an hour ago in the middle of the street" all fucking night long. The doormen who got wind of it wouldn't let me in. Best excuse I could come up with was I was on prozac and had a couple drinks which messed my whole system up.
Not the best reputation to get. Now the cops have me on the radar too, and not for drinking, they knew I was on something else. hahahahahaha.
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