America First and Groypers thread

El Chinito loco

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"Conservative" pakiderm comes to America and starts attacking a white American woman for being racist. Sounds about right.

The conservative movement in the US really needs more based brown athiests named Raheem.
The right wing mainstream conservative side of American politics is full of Indian Grifters crawling over ever crevice but not at the top but definitely midway down.

You have older grifters like Bobby Jindal but also you could include the left with Kamala. However there are long term grifters like Dinesh D’Souza. Now you have gay indians like Ali flogging stop the steal and other guru mysticism.

I want to say this in a nice way but I can’t.. Indians are basically Jews (with none of even the most basic positive traits) this is why they were kicked out of most of southeast asia especially except when monitored under supervised roles in history or as a minority population.

They are generally terrible people.
 
I get the feeling that nick J fuentes is a version of a q-type himself with the whole "Trust the plan" but....idk how zoomers work,...not sure if he's really just mocking the whole "TRUST THE PLAN" stuff or actually belives it. Gen Z is so demoralized it's kinda sad, so I really don't know when those dudes are being serious or not
 

DanielH

Kingfisher
America First Schism
I'm writing this as it's being discussed on the Ralph retort. You can watch the replay in Trovo. Apparently there's been a divorce among the America First guys.

Patrick's claims
Patrick Casey has leveled a series of accusations against Nick Fuentes. He claims Nick is under FBI investigation and his bank accounts are frozen, and that AFPAC is too risky to go to and is only to get money for Nick. Also claims Nick is on the no fly list.Patrick says the best way to go forward is to knock on doors, campaign, and try again in future elections.

Nick's response
Nick owns the PAC so he is on the hook for the money and he admits this but he claims he was willing to cancel it anyways. He says he addressed the concerns of Patrick Casey regarding security. Says he is in consultation with 4 lawyers regarding the safety and legality of AFPAC, and claims having 4 lawyers is proof of still having access to his bank account. He dismisses security concerns saying everyone is aware of the risks, and has made those risks clear to his viewers.

Ethan Ralph asks follow ups, very paraphrased
Are you under FBI investigation?
-I have to be tight lipped. An NBC article claimed I was under FBI investigation. To my knowledge that is not the case. I have not talked to the FBI.

He claimed your bank account is frozen? Is that why you're proceeding with AFPAC?
-The money comes from my nonprofit organization. I haven't taken any money from the foundation, no compensation or salary has been approved. All proceeds have been reinvested. I don't want to go into specifics on my finances.

But your bank account being frozen?
-It's a half truth, I told him that in confidence, but I will say it is partially true. *he goes on to claim he still has access to capital* What (Patrick) said is not technically true. The accusation that I'm on a no fly list is a bald faced lie. What happened is the TSA revoked my pre check status.
*Nick goes on to list more grievances and nuanced matters, says that it is a huge breach of trust for Patrick to broadcast what Nick told him in confidence.

I might write more of my own thoughts tomorrow but I'll keep it neutral and just point out that this is largely why the right keeps losing. You have two guys who agree 99% in theory, 90% in practice, and personalities still clash to this degree? On the left you have Marxists working with neoliberals working with Democratic socialists, working with the octogenarian Democratic establishment. The right is already an endangered species and now this species is at war with itself with an invasive species killing it off. I think with the leaders of the proud boys and oathkeepers being outed as a FBI informant and past FBI agent, respectively, everyone is on edge. Maybe we need to be less political and instead be better Christians. I'd be interested in hearing @It_is_my_time 's take on this.
 
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America First Schism
I'm writing this as it's being discussed on the Ralph retort. You can watch the replay in Trovo. Apparently there's been a divorce among the America First guys.

Patrick's claims
Patrick Casey has leveled a series of accusations against Nick Fuentes. He claims Nick is under FBI investigation and his bank accounts are frozen, and that AFPAC is too risky to go to and is only to get money for Nick. Also claims Nick is on the no fly list.Patrick says the best way to go forward is to knock on doors, campaign, and try again in future elections.

Nick's response
Nick owns the PAC so he is on the hook for the money and he admits this but he claims he was willing to cancel it anyways. He says he addressed the concerns of Patrick Casey regarding security. Says he is in consultation with 4 lawyers regarding the safety and legality of AFPAC, and claims having 4 lawyers is proof of still having access to his bank account. He dismisses security concerns saying everyone is aware of the risks, and has made those risks clear to his viewers.

Ethan Ralph asks follow ups, very paraphrased
Are you under FBI investigation?
-I have to be tight lipped. An NBC article claimed I was under FBI investigation. To my knowledge that is not the case. I have not talked to the FBI.

He claimed your bank account is frozen? Is that why you're proceeding with AFPAC?
-The money comes from my nonprofit organization. I haven't taken any money from the foundation, no compensation or salary has been approved. All proceeds have been reinvested. I don't want to go into specifics on my finances.

But your bank account being frozen?
-It's a half truth, I told him that in confidence, but I will say it is partially true. *he goes on to claim he still has access to capital* What (Patrick) said is not technically true. The accusation that I'm on a no fly list is a bald faced lie. What happened is the TSA revoked my pre check status.
*Nick goes on to list more grievances and nuanced matters, says that it is a huge breach of trust for Patrick to broadcast what Nick told him in confidence.

I might write more of my own thoughts tomorrow but I'll keep it neutral and just point out that this is largely why the right keeps losing. You have two guys who agree 99% in theory, 90% in practice, and personalities still clash to this degree? On the left you have Marxists working with neoliberals working with Democratic socialists, working with the octogenarian Democratic establishment. The right is already an endangered species and now this species is at war with itself with an invasive species killing it off. I think with the leaders of the proud boys and oathkeepers being outed as a FBI informant and past FBI agent, respectively, everyone is on edge. Maybe we need to be less political and instead be better Christians.

A sad divorce.

Both Nick Fuentes and Patrick Casey lack the maturity to lead the movement.

They are both intelligent communicators and conscientious, but have a lot of growing up to do.

This is particularly a problem with Nick: for a guy who always emphasizes 'optics,' he lacks self-awareness (see the Catboi controversy, the MTV documentary, the awkward Shapiro confrontation, etc.).
 
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