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<blockquote data-quote="Max Roscoe" data-source="post: 1452231" data-attributes="member: 17845"><p>So true. You cant even use brand names as proxies for quality. I moved into a house with a dishwasher that broke 3 times under warranty. After the warranty ended, I decided to purchase a high quality appliance that would just work. I ended up buying a Bosch. But almost all the lines of Bosch washers you can find in mainstream stores are the same junk made in some Mexican factory alongside the other crappy brands, and they slap a Bosch control panel and label on it. Many times they even share factories, so you are essentially overpaying for the Bosch name but getting the same crappy product you thought you were avoiding.</p><p></p><p>There was only ONE model I could find that was manufactured in Germany, and it cost 3-4 times as much. As a matter of principle, I don't believe in buying crap, so I bought the absurdly priced German unit (zero problems in 5 years). At this point in life, my time is worth much more than my money so I will pay extra simply to know the product I own is going to work and not need repairing or replacement.</p><p></p><p>But you can't even look to brands. You can many times look to the country of manufacture. You will rarely find crap being made in Germany or Japan (really most of Europe). Europe has much stronger consumer protection laws, where many of the products in the US that come with measely 90 day warranties get 2 year warranties in Europe, or else they are not allowed to sell there. It's basically a rule that prohibits junk, because the seller would have to keep replacing junk that broke within 2 years.</p><p></p><p>This is all the result of capitalism, which prioritizes profits of the holders of capital over everything else.</p><p>It's also one small cut among many which atomizes and destroys any national allegiance among a people. When everything you buy is junk and you have no connection to the products through local factories or knowing they are made with quality, you just feel like an insignificant shopper in a mass market, instead of a member of a functioning community and society.</p><p></p><p>There was a great article on seeking out quality consumer products in the Christian Science Monitor a few years back. I remember they specifically mentioned Carhartt clothing as high quality, and I started buying them (haven't had to replace a single piece yet). But the author did the math and proved mathmatically that it was almost always cheaper to buy the durable expensive product over the cheap crappy one that needs frequent replacement (and that was ignoring the value of your time!)</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Simple-Dollar/2012/0330/When-should-you-buy-brand-name-clothes[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Wow found it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Max Roscoe, post: 1452231, member: 17845"] So true. You cant even use brand names as proxies for quality. I moved into a house with a dishwasher that broke 3 times under warranty. After the warranty ended, I decided to purchase a high quality appliance that would just work. I ended up buying a Bosch. But almost all the lines of Bosch washers you can find in mainstream stores are the same junk made in some Mexican factory alongside the other crappy brands, and they slap a Bosch control panel and label on it. Many times they even share factories, so you are essentially overpaying for the Bosch name but getting the same crappy product you thought you were avoiding. There was only ONE model I could find that was manufactured in Germany, and it cost 3-4 times as much. As a matter of principle, I don't believe in buying crap, so I bought the absurdly priced German unit (zero problems in 5 years). At this point in life, my time is worth much more than my money so I will pay extra simply to know the product I own is going to work and not need repairing or replacement. But you can't even look to brands. You can many times look to the country of manufacture. You will rarely find crap being made in Germany or Japan (really most of Europe). Europe has much stronger consumer protection laws, where many of the products in the US that come with measely 90 day warranties get 2 year warranties in Europe, or else they are not allowed to sell there. It's basically a rule that prohibits junk, because the seller would have to keep replacing junk that broke within 2 years. This is all the result of capitalism, which prioritizes profits of the holders of capital over everything else. It's also one small cut among many which atomizes and destroys any national allegiance among a people. When everything you buy is junk and you have no connection to the products through local factories or knowing they are made with quality, you just feel like an insignificant shopper in a mass market, instead of a member of a functioning community and society. There was a great article on seeking out quality consumer products in the Christian Science Monitor a few years back. I remember they specifically mentioned Carhartt clothing as high quality, and I started buying them (haven't had to replace a single piece yet). But the author did the math and proved mathmatically that it was almost always cheaper to buy the durable expensive product over the cheap crappy one that needs frequent replacement (and that was ignoring the value of your time!) [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Simple-Dollar/2012/0330/When-should-you-buy-brand-name-clothes[/URL] Wow found it. [/QUOTE]
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