American rejected for job in Korea because of being black
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iop890 said:
Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Thai, Filipino in that order. Done.
Constitution45
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Old Fritz said:
Europeans originally learnt slaving techniques from the Arabs, if you read the writes of sheiks and Arabic philosophers dating back to the middle ages, it was fall of bad descriptions and portrayals of black africans.
I remember when living in the Middle East, I showed a picture of a black girl I was living with. This was a former beauty contestant, good looking young black 20 year old. The men I was showing the picture to started hollering and calling her a donkey, while making animal noises. I don't subscribe to political correctness but that was just straight messed up.
iop890 said:
Chinese chicks in Malaysia
CimbomluBkk said:
There are pretty rich ones in Laos and the Philippines as well. I have heard Cambodia as well, but I never saw any so I really don't know for sure.
J DOE said:
It's because of their men. They are always angry about a myriad of things. They are in many cases hyper-masculine and if you mix that and xenophobia and racism, you get South Korea. The Chinese would be as bad as them, but they have a cultural thing about minding your own damn business. Also the sheer size and number of Chinese cause them to care alot less. Korea is not very big, opportunities are competitive, young men are struggling economically and careerwise (sharing it with women in the workforce), and they are surrounded by enemies with no buffer zones. This causes underlying anxiety.
Not just hiphop, but they also took strongly to Christianity as a religion. Does it show in their behavior? No, because there is more to it than that.
iop890 said:
A friend of mine told me that they are involved in many of the businesses there and social/business circle game is a must in order to gain access to them. They commonly are used to inter-marry into the business elite of other Chinese there. This same person told me that in the Philippines, it is the same deal more or less. Alot of them are in the local money lending operations.
This also is related to that angst the local indo-malay people have when they call the Chinese there, the Jews of the East.
In a discussion on why Asians are racist towards a people they have no historical or cultural connection with, are behavior and perception not relevant topics? Or is non-PC speech only permitted when women are the subject matter?
Anyone who has traveled or lived abroad knows that black culture in America is vastly different than black culture outside of America. Understanding why generalizations are made in the first place is crucial to solving any social issue. I made it abundantly clear in several of my posts that discrimination is a bad thing, but that this needs to be viewed within a full cultural context.
@speakeasy
By this logic, if you were to demand 10 million dollars from Donald Trump, and the Donald told you to take a hike, you could argue that he's interfering with your ability to do as you please by not giving you 10 million dollars.
If we're talking about private schools, it certainly is their right to hire whomever they want. If we're talking about public schools, they have no business being in existence.
But to answer your question at face value, I'd dust myself off and go find work somewhere else. AND I'd write an ROK article.
Ok. Black libertarians exist.
They have the same 400 years of discriminatory history behind them.
So you're saying there should not be quotas but it should be illegal to bar somebody from employment on the basis of race.
How would you enforce such a law?
How is currently being enforced?
And how's that working out?
The day that I'm forced to put somebody on my payroll against my will, I'll burn my business to the ground and throw my greenbox in the ocean.
Who is 'we'? I didn't get to decide anything.
I never decided that 'yes, I'd love to pay the completely unconstitutional personal income tax so that my government can treat me like a criminal in my own country and give my hard earned bucks to other people.'
I am?
Look, business owners aren't obliged to hire anybody they don't want.
If somebody doesn't want to hire me because he doesn't like my big Jew nose, or my hippie hairdo, or the sound of my voice, and he tells me so, what am I supposed to do, run to Uncle Sam to force the business owner to give me a job, or money in the form of damages?
If somebody doesn't want to give me a job because I'm a Jew, I'm not going to go crying to the nanny state to hold a gun to his head and give me his shit because he's a racist bastard.
No, I'll go find somebody who does want to hire me.
So who says you have to like people who aren't like you?
It's not bad enough that I have to give a pregnant chick a job and then pay her maternity leave, I have to like the bitch too?
Also, American culture is polluting the rest of the world.
Asians instinctively sense their values are under a furtive attack in the form of American popculture infiltrating their society, hence their xenophobia.
You give it another 50 years, and they'll be no feminine women left anywhere in the world thanks to American culture.
And Brazil, which you've mentioned twice, is by all accounts becoming another feminist cesspool slowly but surely.
Good point.
But you don't right an injustice by adopting it as a policy and instituting it system wide in reverse.
Nobody's entitled to a job on the basis that not giving them a job - for any reason - would be harmful to them.
If I don't want to employ Tony, whatsoever my reasons may be, is it my problem that Tony has bills to pay?
Should I give him a job just because not giving it to him will put him in a difficult situation?
Well said.
But consider that rights exist exactly for the purpose of defending people in situations that others would deem immoral.
You have the freedom of speech in the USA (uh, sorta), so you can go around and say what you want and you can't be thrown in jail for it.
This protects you from the lynch mob mentality that would label you a heretic and publicly orchestrate an experiment to see whether or not you can breathe underwater, just because you said something that enough people don't agree with.
So while it may be illogical and immoral to not hire somebody on the basis of race, religion, sexuality, etc., you have the *right* to run your business as you see fit.
Business people have a problem with being told what to do.
That's why they start businesses.
You want to destroy business completely?
Make businesspeople hire folks they don't want to hire.
By this logic, if you were to demand 10 million dollars from Donald Trump, and the Donald told you to take a hike, you could argue that he's interfering with your ability to do as you please by not giving you 10 million dollars.
If we're talking about private schools, it certainly is their right to hire whomever they want. If we're talking about public schools, they have no business being in existence.
But to answer your question at face value, I'd dust myself off and go find work somewhere else. AND I'd write an ROK article.
Ok. Black libertarians exist.
They have the same 400 years of discriminatory history behind them.
So you're saying there should not be quotas but it should be illegal to bar somebody from employment on the basis of race.
How would you enforce such a law?
How is currently being enforced?
And how's that working out?
The day that I'm forced to put somebody on my payroll against my will, I'll burn my business to the ground and throw my greenbox in the ocean.
Who is 'we'? I didn't get to decide anything.
I never decided that 'yes, I'd love to pay the completely unconstitutional personal income tax so that my government can treat me like a criminal in my own country and give my hard earned bucks to other people.'
I am?
Look, business owners aren't obliged to hire anybody they don't want.
If somebody doesn't want to hire me because he doesn't like my big Jew nose, or my hippie hairdo, or the sound of my voice, and he tells me so, what am I supposed to do, run to Uncle Sam to force the business owner to give me a job, or money in the form of damages?
If somebody doesn't want to give me a job because I'm a Jew, I'm not going to go crying to the nanny state to hold a gun to his head and give me his shit because he's a racist bastard.
No, I'll go find somebody who does want to hire me.
So who says you have to like people who aren't like you?
It's not bad enough that I have to give a pregnant chick a job and then pay her maternity leave, I have to like the bitch too?
Also, American culture is polluting the rest of the world.
Asians instinctively sense their values are under a furtive attack in the form of American popculture infiltrating their society, hence their xenophobia.
You give it another 50 years, and they'll be no feminine women left anywhere in the world thanks to American culture.
And Brazil, which you've mentioned twice, is by all accounts becoming another feminist cesspool slowly but surely.
Good point.
But you don't right an injustice by adopting it as a policy and instituting it system wide in reverse.
Nobody's entitled to a job on the basis that not giving them a job - for any reason - would be harmful to them.
If I don't want to employ Tony, whatsoever my reasons may be, is it my problem that Tony has bills to pay?
Should I give him a job just because not giving it to him will put him in a difficult situation?
Well said.
But consider that rights exist exactly for the purpose of defending people in situations that others would deem immoral.
You have the freedom of speech in the USA (uh, sorta), so you can go around and say what you want and you can't be thrown in jail for it.
This protects you from the lynch mob mentality that would label you a heretic and publicly orchestrate an experiment to see whether or not you can breathe underwater, just because you said something that enough people don't agree with.
So while it may be illogical and immoral to not hire somebody on the basis of race, religion, sexuality, etc., you have the *right* to run your business as you see fit.
Business people have a problem with being told what to do.
That's why they start businesses.
You want to destroy business completely?
Make businesspeople hire folks they don't want to hire.
Korean rules are Korean rules, it's a foreign country. Take it or leave it.
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Just imagine if the American Indian took that stance back in 1492
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Just imagine if the American Indian took that stance back in 1492
I also forgot to mention the fact that a large US military base is on their land. They cannot nor do not want the US to leave, for obvious reasons, but that is mostly the older folks. The younger Koreans do not care for American presence as much. So combine all these factors and it is easy to see the issues with inferiority and insecurity. As far as Feminism in Asia is concerned, I think Korea has it the worst. Worse than Japan and much much worse than China. They only have a small number of key industries. Samsung, Hyundai , etc. The men are not happy about competing with their women for jobs they feel that they should have just because they are men. They have clashed with women over stuff like this. They clash with gender roles at home. Some of their famous women are using Christianity as an excuse to shirk traditional duties even! They were using the West as an example and somehow blended the two.
When you really look at what they are dealing with, you can easily see why they are pissed off all the time. Japanese men are too docile for reasons we all know. Korean men are closer to Chinese men in terms of behavior, culture, and attitude. If they are insulted or slighted, they are ready to fight. I almost got into a fight/situation in China 2 times, not with Chinese people, but Korean tourists. They are soo rude and ornery, Chinese people cannot stand them in China. They call them racial slurs (bang zi, which means club or stick people), spit at them, or jump them in mobs if they find any of them starting shit. 3 Korean men beat up a Chinese woman behind a register in a McDonalds because she said something about their drunken like behavior.
When you really look at what they are dealing with, you can easily see why they are pissed off all the time. Japanese men are too docile for reasons we all know. Korean men are closer to Chinese men in terms of behavior, culture, and attitude. If they are insulted or slighted, they are ready to fight. I almost got into a fight/situation in China 2 times, not with Chinese people, but Korean tourists. They are soo rude and ornery, Chinese people cannot stand them in China. They call them racial slurs (bang zi, which means club or stick people), spit at them, or jump them in mobs if they find any of them starting shit. 3 Korean men beat up a Chinese woman behind a register in a McDonalds because she said something about their drunken like behavior.
Korean women are mostly overrated anyhow. Sexy yes but they have what is called the "han" which is an eternal negative pessimistic outlook conditioned into them from their Korean upbringing. They are mostly an argumentative people, vain, and will put even some hardcore Chinese women to shame when it comes to materialism.
It's not just random Koreans that will cockblock you but their relatives and friends will get real butt hurt after awhile even if they were initially accepting of your non Korean status when dating their female relative.
With all that plastic surgery and shit a lot of them will look like washed up Vegas singers by the time they hit the wall too.
I have dated Korean girls before (in America) and you really aren't missing much.
It's not just random Koreans that will cockblock you but their relatives and friends will get real butt hurt after awhile even if they were initially accepting of your non Korean status when dating their female relative.
With all that plastic surgery and shit a lot of them will look like washed up Vegas singers by the time they hit the wall too.
I have dated Korean girls before (in America) and you really aren't missing much.
Blick Mang said:
No it is not relevant. The reason why is because people who have been to these places already and taught English and/or lived there, like Suits, Dreambig, Pheonix, etc. have already explained to you that they do not like black English teachers due to the demand from the parents. The parents are basing it off perception of whites make up the West. NOT because black people have behavior issues. They know nothing about that. It's a visual thing. It's an image thing. They do this to save face. They would tell a dark skinned Greek man from Greece no to a teaching position as well. I have read reports from Paki, Indian, and other Asians from the UK getting denied teaching jobs in China and Korea. They do not deny them because of a bad reputation.
This is how we know you do not know fucking anything about Asia. You have no idea that most of these people have never ever seen a foreigner in their communities before in the flesh. Much of China is the same way. I was the first foreigner, ever that many have ever seen before. So when they tell these parents that pay ALOT of their income for the best schooling they can afford, that they have an English instructor from America or the UK, the expectation is that he is blonde and blue eyed and looks the part. When in reality, he is a high school diploma carrying guy with nothing special about him.
That's it! That's all! No grand conspiracy here! No socio-economic-racial behavior issue to discuss! It's all about image. They are ethnocentric. They don't care about blacks in the US or Africa. All they know is that a black man did not discover America or the England, so they must get a white guy to teach their kids this English stuff so that they can get a high enough score to get into a good college. That is all.
Kai, that's exactly my point. It is ALL about image and nothing more. But what factors contribute toward that image? Why do they think the way they do when they have little to no exposure to other races? If it was just about being white and from the US or UK, you wouldn't see white Irish girls ALSO being turned down based on antiquated stereotypes.
It's like a disclaimer is required at the beginning and end of any statement or you're accused of being a KKK member.
It's like a disclaimer is required at the beginning and end of any statement or you're accused of being a KKK member.
urbannomad
Woodpecker
That black teacher should've known about Quincy Blacks' Shadow
I don't think it was the actual sex that was illegal (in Korea) but producing child pornography definitely is. I'm not sure it's what he originally intended to do but he went through with it so he's reaping what he sowed.
I don't think it was the actual sex that was illegal (in Korea) but producing child pornography definitely is. I'm not sure it's what he originally intended to do but he went through with it so he's reaping what he sowed.
Blick Mang said:
White girls being treated badly while teaching English in Korea is nothing new either. Korean men are sexist as hell. I already told you that they have a problem with women taking jobs from men before. An Irish one being called a drunk, is fucked up for sure, but that still does not prove that they think all black people have a behavior problem. I have said before that blonde haired and blue eyed MEN are the preference in Asia for teaching jobs. I know a white guy that has brown hair and was rejected for a job in China because he was not blonde or tall enough to wear a suit and sit with Chinese businessmen at a dinner table! This is just White God Factor business style. School is not free in Asia. It's a business. Not a right, like it is in the West.
Not only are you trying to prove something that is not exactly easy to prove in the West, but you are trying to transfix that to Asians in the East, as if that is a fact. Only your outlook can conclude your own premise. That is disingenuous. Also you claimed that the majority of Americans that acted poorly abroad, where minorities, to substantiate your position. You have no proof of that and it's fucking absurd. Some 30 something % of Americans have passports. You mean to tell me that a group of people that make up 12% of the total population of this country, are anywhere near a majority of 30 something percent that actually have a passport? Get out of here with that junk logic!
Until you actually visit Asia and talk to some parents there about it, I don't care what you say. You are not fooling anyone here with that garbage. Don't bother replying back either because you are being intellectually dishonest and bankrupt. For a otherwise smart poster, I personally feel like you are the biggest disappointment of all RVF posters. Thread after thread you do the same racial junk views. Your rep is way lower than it should be considering your knowledge in other areas. Such a pity and a shame that is.
I feel for this guy, but he didn't do his homework. The second I leave America, I put all of my cultural stereotypes away and become a minority in a new country.
When in Rome and if the Romans don't like black people then maybe going there wasn't such a good idea. Unless he wanted to fight the good fight, do it otherwise he should go teach English in a place that will be kinder to him. The world is unfair unequally to everyone, get used to it.
When in Rome and if the Romans don't like black people then maybe going there wasn't such a good idea. Unless he wanted to fight the good fight, do it otherwise he should go teach English in a place that will be kinder to him. The world is unfair unequally to everyone, get used to it.
Constitution45 said:
If you go back farther it was Black Africans whom enslaved Arabs.
Arabs do have a lot of haterade for Black Africans but it comes from very UN-PC stuff that is scribbed in thier books. The Arab diaspora in much of Africa is city and port based, the we people all were labourers way back in the days and many were slaves also. In Egypt the Arabs have no roots outside of the three major centers. You go to the rural historic villiges and its balcks whom have the ties to those places due to the fact they have had a longer time present in that region then the imported Arabs. The Arab peninsula was larger nomadic and empty for its history. The small pockets of people in places such as Yemen were not across the board Arab as for many generations Africans inhabited those parts.
Arabs like to hate because back in those days they brought nothing to the table other than religion. They brought region over but were used as slaves for generations out of the idea they were uncivilized.
You fast forward to modern times and minus the discovery of oil many of these Arab nations will still be dirt poor and at the bottom of economic lists like they were prior. Look at any Arab nation prior to oil and almost all were among the poorest. Today they waste thier money paying westerners to do stuff for them and build thier economies which are nothing more than Disney resorts.
It's all cool though. I don't share the same hate, nor do any of my Islamic African friends. It's just something we laugh at because its just childish rivalry and hating. The dudes can hate on me all they want as a African man but I will still fuck thier women. Arab girls have never been that hard to swoop as long as they are not Islamic. My laundry list of girls I have done shit with looks like the member list of the Arab League.
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